Mandator-Class

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-05 07:17pm

For my fanfic (yes, I'm working on it ...), the Mandator shows up, so I thought I'd throw together a design. I'm curious what people think of it; please, give me feedback!

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-01-05 07:23pm

A kitbash Executor?

Meh, sorry, but meh.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-01-05 07:38pm

It is similar to the OR era star dreadnaught we saw in Tales, so that's a plus.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-01-05 07:40pm

And it would have been commissioned by the ruling famalies of Kuat, or Kuat of Kuat, or somesuch, not the senate.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2006-01-05 07:55pm

Unless it is a Mandator-class Mark II subclass.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-05 08:24pm

Knife wrote:A kitbash Executor?

Meh, sorry, but meh.

My thought was, the Executor needs a design lineage, and big KDY starships like the Mandator would be its predecessor, so it should look similar, but smaller.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2006-01-05 08:33pm

Not too bad looking -- whats that on the belly, a large hangar area , near the aft-pointing "dagger" ?

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-06 04:28pm

Burak Gazan wrote:Not too bad looking -- whats that on the belly, a large hangar area , near the aft-pointing "dagger" ?

Yes, that's a hangar.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2006-01-06 10:00pm

Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-06 10:05pm

Alan Bolte wrote:Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.

How many should I add, then?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2006-01-06 11:33pm

Surlethe wrote:
Alan Bolte wrote:Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.
How many should I add, then?

the Executor had 13 thrusters of various sizes so 6 or 7 (in total, add 2 or 3) at least, also I think the hangar area is a bit too big

otherwise it's nice.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-06 11:34pm

I don't like the big "tooth." It looks silly. That and it's simply too almost exactly like the Executor-class for my tastes.

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » 2006-01-07 12:07am

I agree, lose the "tooth" and change it up a bit; the Venetor-class looks like an ISD yet still has a feeling of being different, this just looks like a modern Executor variant.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-01-07 10:46am

Bah. If I were to ever do a fanfic it would consist only of canon Imperial warships. I just flat out don't like EU ships of any sort. Not even EU wedges cut the mustard- too ill-defined. I'd only change my mind if they released say ... an official CD-ROM with nice RotS-quality meshes of them. Or something.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2006-01-07 11:40pm

Vympel wrote:Bah. If I were to ever do a fanfic it would consist only of canon Imperial warships. I just flat out don't like EU ships of any sort. Not even EU wedges cut the mustard- too ill-defined. I'd only change my mind if they released say ... an official CD-ROM with nice RotS-quality meshes of them. Or something.

That's retarded. Then you have a distribution of 2-3 classes (not including the CW ships) to cover all the roles and business of a galactic superpower.

Coriolis · Post by **Coriolis** » 2006-01-08 12:23am

I agree w/ everyone else on that "tooth" portion of your ship. Maybe move the bridge back a bit. It looks awkward where it currently is. Also, see what happens if you make it a bit wider.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-01-08 08:08pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
That's retarded. Then you have a distribution of 2-3 classes (not including the CW ships) to cover all the roles and business of a galactic superpower.

I'm only speaking in terms of my imagination- I simply can't picture the EU warships next to those in the films. Hence idle day-dreaming about seeing some nice meshes of them.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-01-08 09:19pm

StarWarsJunkie89 wrote:I agree w/ everyone else on that "tooth" portion of your ship. Maybe move the bridge back a bit. It looks awkward where it currently is. Also, see what happens if you make it a bit wider.

Agreed. The Kuati made the Mandator for system defense, didn't they? Obviously, it'll have hyperdrive, but not necessarily the top of the line one. For the most part, it'll be insystem and/or with large fleets. I see no reason why it would have large hangar complexes. Of course it would need shuttlebays and the like, and I can see a handfull of squadrons for recon, ect.... But since it's supposed to be a StarDreadnaught or a Star Battleship, why would it need such a huge hangar complex?

I'd ditch that part.

Aslo, why the classic SD bridge tower? IF anything, I'd slap in the type of bridge tower from a Venator or something akin to it. Perhaps a Venator like bridge towards the rear with a Acclamator like bulb further along towards the bow.

I'll give Surlethe credit, though, with having the patience to draw all the little superstructures on the dorsal hull. Yeesh.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2006-01-08 09:32pm

Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.

Ultimately the number of "thrusters" is irrelevant, for two reasons:

1. The specific impulse attainable for each thruster is more important than the number of thrusters, so for instance, you could have two thrusters equal in power to eight thrusters of a different design.

2. The more thrusters you have, the higher your maintenance costs, but at the same time, the more failsafes you have in the event of a malfunction. Thus, the two opposing viewpoints, economy and reliability, balance each other out.

Also, do we really know that those are individual thrusters? Might they not simply be exhaust nozzles connected to one or two gigantic engines buried within the hull?

Ultimately though, anyway you slice the thruster issue, it doesn't change the fact that this is a geniunely lousy design.