SF medical- wtf?!!?!?

[Vympel]

What is wrong with these people!!!!

In the episode 'Unnatural Selection' (Season 2)- there's a wierd disease on a research planet- all the researches are dying from super-accelerated old age. There's some healthy, isolated genetically engineered 'children' on the planet who the researches ask to be taken up to the Enterprise. When the first kid arrives for tests, we find that this 12 year old kid looks remarkably mature. He's in some kind of transparent foam and is in stasis.

Pulaski convinces Picard to get Data and her to fly out into a shuttle craft (because no area of the E-D can be sealed off reliably even with forcefields according to La Forge) and so they go out there. Here's the thing- potential biohazard- Pulaski wears NO PROTECTIVE CLOTHING WHATSOEVER. She consequently gets infected while Data looks on (by what I don't know or care I still haven't finished watching the DVD). Brilliant.

PS - note these supposedly intelligent people are too FUCKING DUMB to suppose that their might be a connection between these mature telepathic kids and the disease, of course, and think that they got it from a supply ship that passed through- we find at the beginning of the episode that the crew of this ship are all dead. Morons.

[Captain tycho]

What is wrong with these people!!!!

In the episode 'Unnatural Selection' (Season 2)- there's a wierd disease on a research planet- all the researches are dying from super-accelerated old age. There's some healthy, isolated genetically engineered 'children' on the planet who the researches ask to be taken up to the Enterprise. When the first kid arrives for tests, we find that this 12 year old kid looks remarkably mature. He's in some kind of transparent foam and is in stasis.

Pulaski convinces Picard to get Data and her to fly out into a shuttle craft (because no area of the E-D can be sealed off reliably even with forcefields according to La Forge) and so they go out there. Here's the thing- potential biohazard- Pulaski wears NO PROTECTIVE CLOTHING WHATSOEVER. She consequently gets infected while Data looks on (by what I don't know or care I still haven't finished watching the DVD). Brilliant.

PS - note these supposedly intelligent people are too FUCKING DUMB to suppose that their might be a connection between these mature telepathic kids and the disease, of course, and think that they got it from a supply ship that passed through- we find at the beginning of the episode that the crew of this ship are all dead. Morons.

Of course they are too fucking dumb.
Did B&B write this episode?
That might explain alot.
Or else a side effect of the disease was mass stupidity.

[Vympel]

More wierdness. At the end of the episode, the Enterprise returns to the USS Lantree (sp?) on which everyone was dead from the disease (incidentally it's a Miranda but without the weapons 'roll-bar')... as they approach the order is given "close to 40km". When the Enterprise fires a torpedo to blow it to smithereens, they're more like 100m away.

[Vympel]

Maybe I should send these in for Mike's canon database.

Just started watching A Matter of Honor- one of the new recruits at the beginning is told by Riker that there will be a briefing and indoctrination session in 15 minutes.

Indoctrination? That doesn't sound too nice. What are they indoctrinating them about?

[Vympel]

More federation racism: Riker tells Picard that the latest Benzite(?) recruit (the same who's told to report for indoctrination) was very eager to please. Picard's response?

"Well, that's a Benzite trait."

Ah I see, just like being aggressive is a Klingon trait, and just like being dumb is an african-american trait ... wait something sounds fishy with the last one.

[Isolder74]

What is wrong with these people!!!!

In the episode 'Unnatural Selection' (Season 2)- there's a wierd disease on a research planet- all the researches are dying from super-accelerated old age. There's some healthy, isolated genetically engineered 'children' on the planet who the researches ask to be taken up to the Enterprise. When the first kid arrives for tests, we find that this 12 year old kid looks remarkably mature. He's in some kind of transparent foam and is in stasis.

Pulaski convinces Picard to get Data and her to fly out into a shuttle craft (because no area of the E-D can be sealed off reliably even with forcefields according to La Forge) and so they go out there. Here's the thing- potential
biohazard- Pulaski wears NO PROTECTIVE CLOTHING WHATSOEVER. She consequently gets infected while Data looks on (by what I don't know or care I still haven't finished watching the DVD). Brilliant.

PS - note these supposedly intelligent people are too FUCKING DUMB to suppose that their might be a connection between these mature telepathic kids and the disease, of course, and think that they got it from a supply ship that passed through- we find at the beginning of the episode that the crew of this ship are all dead. Morons.

Don't you get it they rely on technology so much that they forgot how to think.

"Programs will be thinking soon."
"Great the computers and programs will start thinking and the people will stop"

The Movie TRON

[Scorpius]

What always freaked me out about that episode (Unnatural selection) is how they used the transporter to reconstitute Pulaski in her original form (pre-goopy old age makeup and hunched-over over-acting) by using DNA from her hair follicle as a template.

Kinda made me think about the "transporter-clone" opinions that permeate Lord Wong's fanfic. If you modify a copy to fix/improve it, what happens to the original?

I could live with the transporter as long as I thought of it as a teleporter and I didn't have to think about being disassembled and reassembled elsewhere. Would I still be me if they started CHANGING things in mid-transport? Or would I die my unknown death while a newer, better version of me starting its existance without knowing that it hadn't really existed 'til that moment? UGH!

In "Relics" didn't Laforge say that the pattern in the transporter buffer (Scotty) was at 98%? What was lost in that missing 2% when they reassemble him? What did the transporter make up to replace it?

Kind of a funny coincidence that the characters who are leery of the transporter in ST are the DOCTORS! (McCoy, Pulaski) much like today the most vocal opposition to flu shots is from Nurses, Doctors, Paramedics... You'd figure the medical profession would declare transporters a danger if they're so damn afraid of them...

[Jason von Evil]

I always wondered, why did they bother to save Pulaski, Zod, she ties with Wesley Crusher as the most hated Trek character, on my list atleast.

[Vympel]

She was only in it for Season 2 tho.

[Jason von Evil]

I hated her, she made Dr. Crusher look attractive and she always threatened to relieve Picard of command, like every chance she got. It's like she was trying to gain some sort of control over the ship that way.

[neoolong]

I hated her, she made Dr. Crusher look attractive and she always threatened to relieve Picard of command, like every chance she got. It's like she was trying to gain some sort of control over the ship that way.

But she only has that option in the case where the captain is unfit right? So either the captain is so damned unfit that she feels she must try, or she is a bitch too sucky to get her own ship and has to try to take Picard's.

[Warspite]

What always freaked me out about that episode (Unnatural selection) is how they used the transporter to reconstitute Pulaski in her original form (pre-goopy old age makeup and hunched-over over-acting) by using DNA from her hair follicle as a template.

Kinda made me think about the "transporter-clone" opinions that permeate Lord Wong's fanfic. If you modify a copy to fix/improve it, what happens to the original?

I could live with the transporter as long as I thought of it as a teleporter and I didn't have to think about being disassembled and reassembled elsewhere. Would I still be me if they started CHANGING things in mid-transport? Or would I die my unknown death while a newer, better version of me starting its existance without knowing that it hadn't really existed 'til that moment? UGH!

In "Relics" didn't Laforge say that the pattern in the transporter buffer (Scotty) was at 98%? What was lost in that missing 2% when they reassemble him? What did the transporter make up to replace it?

Kind of a funny coincidence that the characters who are leery of the transporter in ST are the DOCTORS! (McCoy, Pulaski) much like today the most vocal opposition to flu shots is from Nurses, Doctors, Paramedics... You'd figure the medical profession would declare transporters a danger if they're so damn afraid of them...

Face it, they're so "indoctrinated" that transports are a "good" thing that they just don't care. And both doctors were exceptions to the rule, right?

[Jason von Evil]

I hated her, she made Dr. Crusher look attractive and she always threatened to relieve Picard of command, like every chance she got. It's like she was trying to gain some sort of control over the ship that way.

But she only has that option in the case where the captain is unfit right? So either the captain is so damned unfit that she feels she must try, or she is a bitch too sucky to get her own ship and has to try to take Picard's.

But we all know Picard was always more than fit to command and besides, if he wasn't, Riker, Troi or Data would relieve of him command.

[Ghost Rider]

Please Crusher or Pulaski?

Pulaski at least showed medical competence and actually gave tension.

Crusher is an aging Picard cheerleader...who cannot grasp medical science of the twentieth century...let alone her own.(looks at a virus growing from the leg and does nothing to hinder it except starse an screen)

[Jason von Evil]

All ST doctors are appalled and have no real grasp of 20th century medicine, look at "The Voyage Home," Bones was disgusted by our medical techniques.

[Ghost Rider]

Theree is a difference with the fact McCoy was a doctor and did things and had a grasp of medical science vs a moron who couldn't decipher an airborne virus if it bit them in the ass.

[Scorpius]

Face it, they're so "indoctrinated" that transports are a "good" thing that they just don't care. And both doctors were exceptions to the rule, right?[/quote]


Yeah, the other characters treated them as if their reluctance was "quaint" even though there were how many transporter accidents?

[TheDarkling]

Ghost Rider:That was Pulaski who let the infection spread up Rikers leg (thats the second time this week I have seen this claim so I thought I would correct), yes it was odd not cutting it off especially since giving him a new one would have been easy.

Scorpius:Transporter accidents in TNG? I can only recall one and acouple in DS9 and about 6 in Voyager.

I wonder what that says about Voyager.

If someone wuold like to justify the claims of transporter being unreliable(with respect to TNG/DS9 since Voy's problems cant have affected Oulaski and Voy's problems can be explained otherwise).

[Ghost Rider]

You mean the whole episode of Transporter victims(where it's found what a transporter does persay) is not considered an accident?!

...and oh good they are both morons...ah well

[Scorpius]

Ghost Rider:That was Pulaski who let the infection spread up Rikers leg (thats the second time this week I have seen this claim so I thought I would correct), yes it was odd not cutting it off especially since giving him a new one would have been easy.

Scorpius:Transporter accidents in TNG? I can only recall one and acouple in DS9 and about 6 in Voyager.

I wonder what that says about Voyager.

If someone wuold like to justify the claims of transporter being unreliable(with respect to TNG/DS9 since Voy's problems cant have affected Oulaski and Voy's problems can be explained otherwise).

Other transporter accidents:

TOS:

-One episode had 2 crewmen getting beamed into space because the ship was no longer in orbit and the transporter crew/Kirk didn't know that so bye bye redshirts...
-Kirk gets split into good/evil and overacts in both roles

STMP:
-Unfortunate victims get turned inside out by wonky transporter beam, returned to San Francisco all gooey...

TNG:

-Picard, Ro, Guinan and Keiko get turned into children (then stupidly fall prey to stupid Ferengi)
-there was also one whole episode about stupid Barclay seeing ghosts in the transporter beam who turn out to be losers stuck in subspace(?) from previous transports

These are just what I can recall now...I'm sure there are more

[Zaku-chan]

TOS: the famous "Mirror Universe" accident.

TNG: Geordi and Ensign Laran (I think) are knocked out of phase by a transporter malfunction.

[DocHorror]

Never knock McCoy!

Out of all the doctors in ST he is still the template that hasn't been beaten...

Plus DeForest Kelly was a real good guy...

[Scorpius]

So that's 3 so far from TNG

[Warspite]

From Mike Wong's Database:

TNG:
Episode#8 - Lonely Among Us,
Episode #128 - Realm of Fear,
Episode #133 - Rascals,
Episode #150 - Second CHances.

Maybe there's a few more, but come on, transporter mishaps are already legend in the sci-fi community!

[Scorpius]

Sorry 4 TNG accidents: Forgot: THOMAS Riker being found on that rock, then showing up claiming to be Will and cleaning out his bank account while taking his wife (sorry, forgot the Federation has done away with economic theory... )