Midichlorians for all! (RAR!)
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Midichlorians for all! (RAR!)
Roughly 1 year before the events of The Phantom Menace, every man, woman and child in the Star Wars galaxy of a species capable of using the Force is suddenly granted a midichlorian count equivalent to Obi-Wan Kenobi's. What happens?
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Can't answer since we don't know if Midichlorians counts cause force ability or are caused by force ability or both are caused by a third factor.
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No. As mentioned, the only correlation we're even relatively certain about is that Good force skills tend to mean that that person has a high midi count. One man's explanation to a 9 yr old child aside, nothing has been said about the actual purpose of the buggers, or if they even have one.
Personally, I prefer the explanation that midis flourish in high lifeforce environs, especially powerful force users, so that one could potentially be high in midi but force dull, or be highly force sensitive, but quite potentially have a low midi count (due to some form of condition or somesuch), but with the correlation being such that a simple Midi test is a good enough measure of force potential under nearly every circumstance.
Personally, I prefer the explanation that midis flourish in high lifeforce environs, especially powerful force users, so that one could potentially be high in midi but force dull, or be highly force sensitive, but quite potentially have a low midi count (due to some form of condition or somesuch), but with the correlation being such that a simple Midi test is a good enough measure of force potential under nearly every circumstance.
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Okay, assume that I meant something along the lines of "force potential" when I mentioned midichlorians.
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Potential Jedi. They still wouldn't have any training.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:So what, you basically want to turn the entire population of the Galaxy into Jedi? I frankly simply don't really see the point.
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As Jango Fett would probably be one of those people, the existing Jedi are even more screwed in ROTS than they already were. Palpy may not even wait as long to give order 66.
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Hmm... this sounds a lot like my stories...
I don't think the Jedi Order would last long enough to reach ROTS. They're supermen, allowing them to enforce the republic's will throughout the galaxy. When they suddenly find themselves on even ground, they'll be screwed, they might be recruited as instructors for the Republic army though.
Confederate Battle Droids will reach all new levels of uselessness, and Palpatine might have trouble with his 'scheme', as it will be difficult to believably prolong the war (think, Jedi Clonetroopers vs stupid droids) On the other hand, it would be entirely awesome to see how Force Powers+Blasters works.
I don't think the Jedi Order would last long enough to reach ROTS. They're supermen, allowing them to enforce the republic's will throughout the galaxy. When they suddenly find themselves on even ground, they'll be screwed, they might be recruited as instructors for the Republic army though.
Confederate Battle Droids will reach all new levels of uselessness, and Palpatine might have trouble with his 'scheme', as it will be difficult to believably prolong the war (think, Jedi Clonetroopers vs stupid droids) On the other hand, it would be entirely awesome to see how Force Powers+Blasters works.
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Everybody's assuming that this would be a bad thing for the Jedi. While, in the long run, perhaps it might be, in the short term I think it would help them. They can now be as picky as they damned well please about selecting students. Oh, Master What's-His-Name has a vision of some badness when he looks at little Johnny? No problem! There's a ka-zillion other potential Jedi in the galaxy now!
The only problem is the Jedi Code's forbidding a Knight to take more than one padawan at a time. Odds are, they would be unwilling to change that, due to Yoda being at the head of the Council, but if they do, their numbers could explode.
Meanwhile, Palps still has to limit himself to one apprentice, lest he risk history repeating itself and the Sith tearing themselves apart. Even if he tries to train everybody he can turn to his way of thinking, there's no way he could build the Siths' numbers up that much, especially considering that he has to go be a politician most of the time.
As mentioned by others, though, either Palps or Dooku will probably train certain characters who already hate the Jedi, as Dark Jedi if not as Sith Lords, and that would be bad news for the Order, especially if they refuse to break the one master-one padawan rule.
If Palps still winds up winning, he'll probably be a lot more zealous about the Jedi Purge. After all, he must totally stamp out all knowledge of the Force he does not control, or the potential for it spreading again is huge. Say Obi-Wan and Yoda bounce around planets, training one person, telling him or her to train others, and then hitting another planet and repeating the process. Exponential growth. The only way to Palps could defend if this started happening would be to do likewise with darksiders, and, again, big groups of darksiders have the potential to destroy one another. I could see him issuing bounties you could buy whole solar systems with when Obi-Wan and Yoda escape him and plain never letting up on the effort to find them.
Whoever wins, be it the Jedi or Palpatine, they're probably going to have to deal with people independantly teaching themselves to use the Force, especially if the public at large discovers they've all got Jedi potential. Palpatine will probably kill anyone he finds using the Force without his express permission, though it's possible that some new group of Force users will be able to avoid his notice long enough for them to rise up and defeat him, either liberating the galaxy or taking his throne for themselves.
What would happen in the long term if the Jedi win is anybody's guess. Perhaps when Yoda dies, the Council will be more open to allowing masters to take on multiple apprentices. I doubt that there would be a true "democratization" of the Force, though, as most people probably won't want the power and its responsibilities. Or, perhaps, the Jedi would jeolously guard their secrets, and force whoever starts to learn to use their powers to join their Order. If they do this, odds are that they'll eventually be replaced by some new group of Force users, either through violence or the new group surpassing the stagnant Jedi Order in numbers, power, and importance.
There are a lot of ways such a scenario could go.
The only problem is the Jedi Code's forbidding a Knight to take more than one padawan at a time. Odds are, they would be unwilling to change that, due to Yoda being at the head of the Council, but if they do, their numbers could explode.
Meanwhile, Palps still has to limit himself to one apprentice, lest he risk history repeating itself and the Sith tearing themselves apart. Even if he tries to train everybody he can turn to his way of thinking, there's no way he could build the Siths' numbers up that much, especially considering that he has to go be a politician most of the time.
As mentioned by others, though, either Palps or Dooku will probably train certain characters who already hate the Jedi, as Dark Jedi if not as Sith Lords, and that would be bad news for the Order, especially if they refuse to break the one master-one padawan rule.
If Palps still winds up winning, he'll probably be a lot more zealous about the Jedi Purge. After all, he must totally stamp out all knowledge of the Force he does not control, or the potential for it spreading again is huge. Say Obi-Wan and Yoda bounce around planets, training one person, telling him or her to train others, and then hitting another planet and repeating the process. Exponential growth. The only way to Palps could defend if this started happening would be to do likewise with darksiders, and, again, big groups of darksiders have the potential to destroy one another. I could see him issuing bounties you could buy whole solar systems with when Obi-Wan and Yoda escape him and plain never letting up on the effort to find them.
Whoever wins, be it the Jedi or Palpatine, they're probably going to have to deal with people independantly teaching themselves to use the Force, especially if the public at large discovers they've all got Jedi potential. Palpatine will probably kill anyone he finds using the Force without his express permission, though it's possible that some new group of Force users will be able to avoid his notice long enough for them to rise up and defeat him, either liberating the galaxy or taking his throne for themselves.
What would happen in the long term if the Jedi win is anybody's guess. Perhaps when Yoda dies, the Council will be more open to allowing masters to take on multiple apprentices. I doubt that there would be a true "democratization" of the Force, though, as most people probably won't want the power and its responsibilities. Or, perhaps, the Jedi would jeolously guard their secrets, and force whoever starts to learn to use their powers to join their Order. If they do this, odds are that they'll eventually be replaced by some new group of Force users, either through violence or the new group surpassing the stagnant Jedi Order in numbers, power, and importance.
There are a lot of ways such a scenario could go.
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In reality, all it would do is increase the number of potential candidates for training. After all, simply having the midichlorians doesn't make you a Jedi. Furthermore, it seems from TPM that midichlorians aren't common knowledge (or at least their link to the Force).
It would certainly lead to an increase in the ranks of the various Force cults (be it Jedi or Witches of Dagomir or what have you). However, I think in the long run its effect would be relatively minimal.
It would certainly lead to an increase in the ranks of the various Force cults (be it Jedi or Witches of Dagomir or what have you). However, I think in the long run its effect would be relatively minimal.
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