[Star Trek] Possible Defiant Successor

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-23 09:49pm

A little something I've been working on...

Three decks, slipstream drive, advanced phasers (including the infamous Edge Tech Array on the saucer), ten crewmembers, blatantly atmosphere capable...

I'm thinking of putting in three Defiant-style pulse phasers above the nose deflector and a torpedo launcher on the ventral side of the saucer above the main deflector...

This may also end up being a pirate ship (stolen from an R&D facility, perhaps?) for Fleet Admiral JD. God knows...

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2006-01-24 03:29am

I don't know anything about drawing/designing ships, but i think you could make it more clearly Defiantish if there were four pulse phasers, two on the top near the grey elliptical structures and the same for the bottom. The forward section might be more of a habitation module analogous to the normal function of Feddie saucers.

OTOH, putting them at the front means you can have them reach almost the whole ship's length.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-01-24 07:43am

I know jack about ST ships, but i will say its lightyears better than most designs i've seen on Star Trek shows. Very cool dude, very sleek ('blatantly atmospheer capable' indeed

). Very cool.

I'd add turrets on the wings and top, cause i'm compensating for somethimng, but thats just me.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-01-24 09:03am

Looks nice, almost like a streamlined Yeager class. I'm not too sure about the spikes on the nacelles, though, they may be a bit much

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2006-01-24 10:38am

Naw, the spikes are oldschool. Good job on that Einy, very late-period Trek. Though the final design could use some windows, and a more visible bridge.

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2006-01-24 10:47am

It sounds like the role of this ship is a Federation analogue to a Bird of Prey.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-24 11:22pm

Cleaned it up, added some detail, and made a Longnose Version.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2006-01-24 11:25pm

looks like an SR-71

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-25 12:09am

Looks like something from one of the latter Macross series.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-25 06:20pm

Added hull paneling (ablative armor, maybe?), bridge bulge, and thermal-protection/anti-erosion material on wings' leading edges.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-25 09:10pm

New hull color, addition of edgetech phasers on rear terminii of warp nacelles, and installation of an ejectable bridge module with lifting-body design. Also added upgraded TPS material to strategic areas on bridge module and other parts of the hull.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-01-27 02:51am

you know ein that looks too buitiful to be a trek ship.

looks almost like a naboo model

salm · Post by **salm** » 2006-01-27 05:58am

The back looks too much like an F15 or some other fighter plane from now paired with the giant engines of the Blackbird. It doesn´t look like a Trek ship (At least in my eyes which admittedly don´t know shit about Star Trek).

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2006-01-27 08:22am

I'd like to see it with better nacelle end-caps, Bussards I think they call them, rather than the pointed ones it appears to have now. They look far too retro and jar when compared to the rest of the design. I'd also like to see the forward hull section altered a little, maybe a little wider flare to it and smoother line up to the tip.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-01-27 11:45am

I have to say too, the warm necells doo seem a bit too pointed... Also, the color is a bit off from 'traditional' Fedi ships.. Usually Warp engines are Red tips with blue stripes. Obviously it isn't always like that, but the orange color you have now is more of what was used in TOS.

That said I love the new look of the ship and the added detail you gave to it.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-28 10:45am

Upper Deflector is finished; Pulse Phasers (two singles and one twin-linked) installed in nose.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-28 11:05am

Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:I'd like to see it with better nacelle end-caps, Bussards I think they call them, rather than the pointed ones it appears to have now. They look far too retro and jar when compared to the rest of the design. I'd also like to see the forward hull section altered a little, maybe a little wider flare to it and smoother line up to the tip.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:I have to say too, the warm necells doo seem a bit too pointed... Also, the color is a bit off from 'traditional' Fedi ships.. Usually Warp engines are Red tips with blue stripes. Obviously it isn't always like that, but the orange color you have now is more of what was used in TOS.

That said I love the new look of the ship and the added detail you gave to it.

I'm actually going for a slightly TOS-retrofuturistic vibe with this design, which accounts for the yellow spiked bussards, high-albedo hull and panel-lines, and lack of warp-engine grilles. I'm also working on intercoolers for the engines too...

Red Star · Post by **Red Star** » 2006-01-28 01:14pm

That looks like one badass ship, a federation corvette?

Need a side view, a nice thin sexy design, plus some weapons on the back if there isn't any already. Don't change the dimensions of the top view, what are the dimensions?

Very nice

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-28 02:04pm

Red Star wrote:That looks like one badass ship,

Yup, it is. Remember, this is the successor to the Defiant.

Red Star wrote: a federation corvette?

Yup!

Red Star wrote:Need a side view,

Will do.

Red Star wrote: a nice thin sexy design,

It uses quantum slipstream propulsion. The only canon ship designed to use that was so sleek and sexy it made the Prometheus look positively pedestrian

Red Star wrote: plus some weapons on the back if there isn't any already.

See the gold bits at the end of the hyperdrive^Wslipstream nacelles? Small Edge Tech phasers, just like that huge wraparound phaser on the "saucer". Same with the strips top and bottom of the Aux Impulse/Bussard nacelles. Trust me, the ship has multiple coverage on all aspects.

Red Star wrote: Don't change the dimensions of the top view, what are the dimensions?

Oops. I never did work out the dimensions, but considering the ship is ~1550 pixels long, I suspect it'll be 75 or 150 meters long; more than likely 75 meters...

Red Star wrote:Very nice

Thank you!

EDIT: Damn Typodemons... Gagh I'm getting sleeeeeeeeepyyyy.....

Red Star · Post by **Red Star** » 2006-01-28 02:21pm

See the gold bits at the end of the hyperdrive^Wslipstream nacelles? Small Edge Tech phasers, just like that huge wraparound phaser on the "saucer". Same with the strips top and bottom of the Aux Impulse/Bussard nacelles. Trust me, the ship has multiple coverage on all aspects.

Didn't notice that. A pair of these ships could probably defeat a small fleet.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-01-29 10:49am

Red Star wrote:
See the gold bits at the end of the hyperdrive^Wslipstream nacelles? Small Edge Tech phasers, just like that huge wraparound phaser on the "saucer". Same with the strips top and bottom of the Aux Impulse/Bussard nacelles. Trust me, the ship has multiple coverage on all aspects.
Didn't notice that. A pair of these ships could probably defeat a small fleet.

Quite likely, considering that it outguns most anything its size and outruns anything big enough to kill it.

Oh, and

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2006-01-29 01:05pm

nice Ein, but I'd rather make the Phasers be more common Yellow(gold)/orange color then blue (only TOS used blue beam phasers and I know of no blue pluse phasers).

edit:fixed some weird typos

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2006-01-29 01:12pm

the ST 6 hand phaser fire blue pulses IIRC. Besides they look cool so how cares?

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2006-01-29 01:44pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Red Star wrote:That looks like one badass ship,
Yup, it is. Remember, this is the successor to the Defiant.

Looks nice, but it doesn't look right as a Defiant sucessor. For me, the Defiant's stocky, compact build evokes the image of a tank, and I think any sucessor should reflect that as well.

But that's just my opinion, of course.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-01-29 02:26pm

Ma Deuce wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Red Star wrote:That looks like one badass ship,
Yup, it is. Remember, this is the successor to the Defiant.
Looks nice, but it doesn't look right as a Defiant sucessor. For me, the Defiant's stocky, compact build evokes the image of a tank, and I think any sucessor should reflect that as well.

But that's just my opinion, of course.

Not a successor in appearance as much as it is in role-- small, strong, heavily armed craft for escort and battle. It's also got the additional enhancement of extra speed, making it a good courier and high-speed craft.