Depends on how you look at it. The Empire got rid of most Acc's, and they're better than most of what the CIS puts out. I would say CIS ships are not so much outdated as simply of lower quality in the first place. That doesn't make them uesless, but it certainly reduces their usefulness.Cykeisme wrote:They are of a smaller class of vessel, but they're still of the same technological base. They are by no means useless, and certainly not outdated.
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I don't think the Empire got rid of Acclamators and other older vehicles that easily, there's certainly been more than enough recent OT-sources showcasing them (SW:Empire, EaW, Coruscant and the Core Worlds etc.) to suggest they were melted down like the ROTS:VD claimed.
But, alot of older material ended up in outlying garrisons and armies, like the Juggernauts, so there was a gradual shift as comparatively better models were developed.
Then again, in a few years we'll probably have Rebel Recuscants and Munificents running about thanks to the almighty retcon and never-before-seen stories in a completely different part of the galaxy... :P
But, alot of older material ended up in outlying garrisons and armies, like the Juggernauts, so there was a gradual shift as comparatively better models were developed.
Then again, in a few years we'll probably have Rebel Recuscants and Munificents running about thanks to the almighty retcon and never-before-seen stories in a completely different part of the galaxy... :P
Good point... a lot of them are converted cargo carriers and communication ships. Many retrofitted CIS warship types are probably just not as good as dedicated combat designs.Nightmare wrote:I would say CIS ships are not so much outdated as simply of lower quality in the first place. That doesn't make them uesless, but it certainly reduces their usefulness.
The almighty retcon indeed! You're probably right, and it will be interesting to see ex-CIS Rebel shipsVT-16 wrote:Then again, in a few years we'll probably have Rebel Recuscants and Munificents running about thanks to the almighty retcon and never-before-seen stories in a completely different part of the galaxy...
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The reason Alderaan scrapped their fleet was to look less threatening to the Emperor, while opposing him at every turn politically. Also, with a fleet the Emperor could say that Alderaan was planning on using it to secede from, or attack the Empire. But if they don't have a fleet the Emperor can't paint them as a military threat that needs to be crushed.Vianca wrote:You all forget the Alderaan fleet.
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Yes, and I agree, though I never used them as the Rebels. The Liberator was everything you ever needed. Overall, the rebels were much too easy to play in that game. But hey, you can mod it to your satisfaction.Stark wrote:Were the Bulwarks those *retarded* ships at the end of the Rebel tree that could fight Executors? Ugh, the stupidity.
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Weren't most CIS ships designed to be operated exclusively by droids with maybe a small organic complement? I doubt the Rebels had the resources to convert already-obsolete drone ships cost effectively.
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I liked the Liberator myself. Fighter capacity of a escort carrier, almost shielding and turbolasers of Calimari and cheaper to boot. What a deal!nightmare wrote:Yes, and I agree, though I never used them as the Rebels. The Liberator was everything you ever needed. Overall, the rebels were much too easy to play in that game. But hey, you can mod it to your satisfaction.Stark wrote:Were the Bulwarks those *retarded* ships at the end of the Rebel tree that could fight Executors? Ugh, the stupidity.
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You'd think the smaller organic crew needs would appeal to the rebels. Hell, they stripped down ancient Dreadnaught classes into 'Assualt Frigates' that used a substancially smaller crew.StarshipTitanic wrote:Weren't most CIS ships designed to be operated exclusively by droids with maybe a small organic complement? I doubt the Rebels had the resources to convert already-obsolete drone ships cost effectively.
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The larger droid requirements may require more industrial support in the realm of spare parts and their equivalent of POL. Something that may be more expensive to purchase on the black market, or a large purchase may be more noticable to Imperial Intelligence.Knife wrote:
You'd think the smaller organic crew needs would appeal to the rebels. Hell, they stripped down ancient Dreadnaught classes into 'Assualt Frigates' that used a substancially smaller crew.
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well........ the Rebels do have one disadvantage, the lack of "trained" jedi in the begining.....nightmare wrote: Yes, and I agree, though I never used them as the Rebels. The Liberator was everything you ever needed. Overall, the rebels were much too easy to play in that game. But hey, you can mod it to your satisfaction.
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