Magic Cards = Rape

[Noble Ire]

[Captain Cyran]

Obviously, but I'm sure anyone that actually claimed that would get their balls cooked tound here in short order.

You are correct. I just tend to get uppity when the blanket statements are made. I know logically they only refer to the fundies but on the paranoid level I think they include all.

Anyone that does subscribe to the irrational epistemology and reverence of faith, however, is part of the same system that produces fundies. Insane religiosity is all out faith, all out suspension of reason, it is faith at it's most extreme, applied evenly and consistently, and, dare I say it, honestly. Ironically, the fundies are the logical ultimate expression of faith.

Though honestly much the same can be said of any group of individuals, such as political parties, any hobbiest, any science. It's just the fundies always manage to garner the most attention.

It's the secularist believers that betray both reason and faith, they are inconsistent with their application of their epistemologies, because they know that ultimately, faith is indistinguishable from gullibility and delusion. Revere that state of mind enough and we all see what we get.

So an understanding that your belief in a diety is illogical is what leads to this kind of "magic=satan" attitude?

Yep, see it from her point of view though, she sees it as much an attack on her faith as you'd undoubtedly see anyone making fun of deities.

I see it from her point of view. She knows that The Great Evil is tricky and will use any means possible to subvert souls. She knows M:tG involves summoning creatures, therefore she connects two and two. I just think it's ridiculous.

As for Strip Magic... that is an interesting idea.

To be honest, it would be gross with most people I've seen play it.

That's why you do it with your significant other or as an introduction to some other hottie who is interested and a tad bit gullible.

"Are you sure that for every point of life I loose I have to take off a piece of clothing?"
"Yep."
"But I don't have 20 pieces of clothing."
"Oh I'm sure we can think of some other payment system."

[Rye]

Anyone that does subscribe to the irrational epistemology and reverence of faith, however, is part of the same system that produces fundies. Insane religiosity is all out faith, all out suspension of reason, it is faith at it's most extreme, applied evenly and consistently, and, dare I say it, honestly. Ironically, the fundies are the logical ultimate expression of faith.

Though honestly much the same can be said of any group of individuals, such as political parties, any hobbiest, any science. It's just the fundies always manage to garner the most attention.

Too true, it is the abandonment of reason which causes this; if people stuck to evidence and discerning an outcome most likely to be true rather than working backwards and giving in to groupthink and delusion, this would be avoided.

So an understanding that your belief in a diety is illogical is what leads to this kind of "magic=satan" attitude?

Nah, understanding it's illogical doesn't necessarily sway opinion about a concept one way or the other. It should discourage people from accepting it, however, if such irrationality is revered, seen as virtuous, and especially if it's given support from other likewise irrational people, along with other irrational views (magic cards = rape, for instance), that sort of madness can gather quite a momentum in someone's thinking and actions.

I see it from her point of view. She knows that The Great Evil is tricky and will use any means possible to subvert souls. She knows M:tG involves summoning creatures, therefore she connects two and two. I just think it's ridiculous.

It is, but you saying that to her is the attack on her faith is what i was saying. And it is, just like it would be if said about anything faith based. She's just using more faith-based arguments to bolster her position than you.

That's why you do it with your significant other or as an introduction to some other hottie who is interested and a tad bit gullible.

"Are you sure that for every point of life I loose I have to take off a piece of clothing?"
"Yep."
"But I don't have 20 pieces of clothing."
"Oh I'm sure we can think of some other payment system."

Well, it's an original idea, i'll give it that.

[Captain Cyran]

Though honestly much the same can be said of any group of individuals, such as political parties, any hobbiest, any science. It's just the fundies always manage to garner the most attention.

Too true, it is the abandonment of reason which causes this; if people stuck to evidence and discerning an outcome most likely to be true rather than working backwards and giving in to groupthink and delusion, this would be avoided.

Unfortunately it's not within human nature to do something like that. So we'll always have it. What we can only hope for really is that we can manage to keep those who do give in to delusion and the majority must be right from getting too high in the eschelons of power.

Nah, understanding it's illogical doesn't necessarily sway opinion about a concept one way or the other. It should discourage people from accepting it, however, if such irrationality is revered, seen as virtuous, and especially if it's given support from other likewise irrational people, along with other irrational views (magic cards = rape, for instance), that sort of madness can gather quite a momentum in someone's thinking and actions.

Ah, so the reverance of irrationality taken too far is what you were talking about. Personally I believe some irrationality (for example the belief in a diety but not trying to force ones beliefs or ideas on another) is not a problem and could perhaps have some beneficial outcomes, such as the idea of "Things will be better in the end."

It is, but you saying that to her is the attack on her faith is what i was saying. And it is, just like it would be if said about anything faith based. She's just using more faith-based arguments to bolster her position than you.

I think I attempted to say the same, just not as articulately.

Well, it's an original idea, i'll give it that.

Hey, I work with what I'm given.

[Lagmonster]

Obviously, but I'm sure anyone that actually claimed that would get their balls cooked tound here in short order.

You are correct. I just tend to get uppity when the blanket statements are made. I know logically they only refer to the fundies but on the paranoid level I think they include all.

Of course, now you can tell the difference between saying that all religious folk are morons and saying that people who think supernatural powers influence daily events around them are poorly skilled at judging cause and effect.

[drachefly]

I must say, if the only card he saw was Earthbind, it's not an unreasonable supposition.

[Kitsune]

Watching a crime drama show and a couple's kid was killed by dogs. The cops found a D&D Novel in their house and tried to spin it into some type of sacrifice.

[wolveraptor]

Wait, now dogs play D&D? And Nobile Ire, how do you make those cards? I've seen people make Nader ones as well.

[felineki]

Wait, now dogs play D&D?

Well, we've known that they play poker for quite some time...

[Noble Ire]

Wait, now dogs play D&D? And Nobile Ire, how do you make those cards? I've seen people make Nader ones as well.

First, one must summon the unholiest of spirits through the ritual disembowlment of two live lambs, and cast their entrails upon the alter of Abbadon!


Or, you can go here.

And, never one to miss an opportunity to self-advertise, moreexamplesof the possible final products.

[Singular Quartet]

To be honest, it would be gross with most people I've seen play it.

You just don't know enough cute people who play magic, that's all.

[Davis 51]

Watching a crime drama show and a couple's kid was killed by dogs. The cops found a D&D Novel in their house and tried to spin it into some type of sacrifice.

Out of curiosity, does this show have a name?

[defanatic]

That's why you do it with your significant other or as an introduction to some other hottie who is interested and a tad bit gullible.

"Are you sure that for every point of life I loose I have to take off a piece of clothing?"
"Yep."
"But I don't have 20 pieces of clothing."
"Oh I'm sure we can think of some other payment system."

Do these people actually exist?

[Keevan_Colton]

That's why you do it with your significant other or as an introduction to some other hottie who is interested and a tad bit gullible.

"Are you sure that for every point of life I loose I have to take off a piece of clothing?"
"Yep."
"But I don't have 20 pieces of clothing."
"Oh I'm sure we can think of some other payment system."

Do these people actually exist?

People that dumb?

Yes.

[The Yosemite Bear]

I knew we shoud never have let Bush and Rumsfield play RISK in their childhood.

[drachefly]

That's why you do it with your significant other or as an introduction to some other hottie who is interested and a tad bit gullible.

"Are you sure that for every point of life I loose I have to take off a piece of clothing?"
"Yep."
"But I don't have 20 pieces of clothing."
"Oh I'm sure we can think of some other payment system."

Do these people actually exist?

People that dumb?

Yes.

Well, people that would agree to that exist; but it does not necessarily have to do with being dumb.

[Kitsune]

Watching a crime drama show and a couple's kid was killed by dogs. The cops found a D&D Novel in their house and tried to spin it into some type of sacrifice.

Out of curiosity, does this show have a name?

Hmm, it was on Court TV, "Forensic Files" I think...probably won't help much because there is likely about a thousand episodes.

[Kitsune]

Hmm, it was on Court TV, "Forensic Files" I think...probably won't help much because there is likely about a thousand episodes.

I wanted to aslo say it could have been "Medical Detectives"

[Faqa]

Mmmmmmm, strip Magic Cards....

Now to just find a female remotely interested in the concept.......

*looks*

What, Second Coming ALREADY?! Darn.....

[wautd]

Just saw this on a fundie board about runescape

All of these type games are Satan's devices to pull humankind away from God and from loving others. I don't know where so many folks get so much free time to spend interacting with an electronic gadgets