Vader and Force Lightning

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-31 12:38pm

Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote:How does it follow that an arm which can shoot lightning must be "cool looking" and "electro"?
It has to be electro cause it means electronic sortened out and maybe it wouldn't be cool to some people but I think it would be like a jar of electricity and in my view thats neat

Well that's certainly a whore mentality.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2006-01-31 12:41pm

People, it is important to note one special distinction; Vader can summon Sith Lightning if he wants too ... it would, just unfortunately, fry his suit in the process, so he chooses not to.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-31 04:42pm

Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote:How does it follow that an arm which can shoot lightning must be "cool looking" and "electro"?
It has to be electro cause it means electronic sortened out and maybe it wouldn't be cool to some people but I think it would be like a jar of electricity and in my view thats neat

Which orifice did you pull that out of? I think it would be really cool if Palpatine had a gigantic erect penis-ship that shot a superlaser out of its tip and blew up planets, but that doesn't mean if he has a ship that shoots a superlaser and blows up planets, it must be a giant erect penis-ship.

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-01-31 05:58pm

Surlethe wrote:Which orifice did you pull that out of? I think it would be really cool if Palpatine had a gigantic erect penis-ship that shot a superlaser out of its tip and blew up planets, but that doesn't mean if he has a ship that shoots a superlaser and blows up planets, it must be a giant erect penis-ship.

And you think mine was stange? OK

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-31 06:11pm

Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote:Which orifice did you pull that out of? I think it would be really cool if Palpatine had a gigantic erect penis-ship that shot a superlaser out of its tip and blew up planets, but that doesn't mean if he has a ship that shoots a superlaser and blows up planets, it must be a giant erect penis-ship.
And you think mine was stange? OK

You completely missed my point, didn't you? Well, if you can't grasp it in analogy form, let me make it clear in simple words: whether or not you think something sounds cool does not imply the desired effect arises from the "cool" thing.

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-01-31 06:23pm

Crown wrote:People, it is important to note one special distinction; Vader can summon Sith Lightning if he wants too ... it would, just unfortunately, fry his suit in the process, so he chooses not to.

And a smart decision that is

but here is the point what if they did put in an electronic launcher or something more rather

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-01-31 06:25pm

Surlethe wrote:You completely missed my point, didn't you? Well, if you can't grasp it in analogy form, let me make it clear in simple words: whether or not you think something sounds cool does not imply the desired effect arises from the "cool" thing.

Ok I get it

like Lucas didn't get the desired effect on Ep. I if I remember people thought it was terrible

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-01-31 06:27pm

Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote:You completely missed my point, didn't you? Well, if you can't grasp it in analogy form, let me make it clear in simple words: whether or not you think something sounds cool does not imply the desired effect arises from the "cool" thing.
Ok I get it like Lucas didn't get the desired effect on Ep. I if I remember people thought it was terrible

The questionable validity and subjectivity of that statement aside, it has nothing to do with the issue, nothing at all.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-31 08:03pm

Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote:You completely missed my point, didn't you? Well, if you can't grasp it in analogy form, let me make it clear in simple words: whether or not you think something sounds cool does not imply the desired effect arises from the "cool" thing.
Ok I get it like Lucas didn't get the desired effect on Ep. I if I remember people thought it was terrible

What the hell does that have to do with anything even remotely relevant to my argument?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-31 10:48pm

His position doesn't have any sort of ground, so he's attacking an unrelated target thinking that he'll gain some ground from such a manner.

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-02-04 11:07pm

Anyway my friend still says that if he, Vader, were possibly to stand in front of somebody, Vader could shock them. Yeah in that process he would be vaporized to! I wonder if he uses a mechanical arm it would somehow boost the lightning, since Vader can't control it. I wonder if he can use that as a last resort. Well in the mean time good luck to the soilders in Iraq and...

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2006-02-05 12:51am

What part of "fry his life support" did you not understand? And how is standing in front of someone going to fix that?

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-02-05 03:54pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:What part of "fry his life support" did you not understand? And how is standing in front of someone going to fix that?

I understood it fine. But I said that Vader could use it as a last resort because it could go critical and vaporize everything, I didn't say he wouldn't get vaporized himself. Let's say hypothetically that Vader is losing and he has to destroy this enemy. If he knows it's over for him already then he vaporizes him and his opponent.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2006-02-05 09:59pm

Vader is a walking warp core waiting to go boom ?

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-02-06 01:41am

Force lightning is a magical attack that doesn't operate on the same principles as mundane electromagnetism. Since the Force itself is created by living things it stands to reason that a mechanical prosthesis will be of no use.

As for why the hands, consider: No other appendage on the human body has such fine manipulation and sensitivity capabilities. Force Lighting probably comes from the hands because that's the only appendage coordinated enough to do whatever's necessary to achieve the effect. In non-humanoid organims, it comes out of analogous apendages. The most sensitive primary tentacles, flippers, fins or whatever.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-02-06 08:49am

Sarevok wrote:Vader is a walking warp core waiting to go boom ?

Nobody ever said that. However, recall the damage his life support systems received after he got a full-bore blast from Palpatine on the Death Star; he *could* summon Force lightning, depending upon whether he needs mechanical or flesh appendages, but it would most probably damage his life support irreparably. He would have to return to his hyperbaric chamber promptly and peel it all off for repair.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-02-06 10:46am

Jedi Guardian wrote:Anyway my friend still says that if he, Vader, were possibly to stand in front of somebody, Vader could shock them. Yeah in that process he would be vaporized to! I wonder if he uses a mechanical arm it would somehow boost the lightning, since Vader can't control it. I wonder if he can use that as a last resort. Well in the mean time good luck to the soilders in Iraq and...

Well, you're a trolling little dipshit, aren't you? Go ahead and provide evidence he would be vaporized, and that he could even project from a prosthetic limb. And, no; "his suit looks cool" is not evidence.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-02-06 10:47am

Elheru Aran wrote:
Sarevok wrote:Vader is a walking warp core waiting to go boom ?
Nobody ever said that. However, recall the damage his life support systems received after he got a full-bore blast from Palpatine on the Death Star; he *could* summon Force lightning, depending upon whether he needs mechanical or flesh appendages, but it would most probably damage his life support irreparably. He would have to return to his hyperbaric chamber promptly and peel it all off for repair.

Actually, given that after the full-strength blast from Palpatine, he couldn't even walk, I doubt that he'd be able to return to his hyperbaric chamber for repairs.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2006-02-06 10:52am

Surlethe wrote:
Elheru Aran wrote:
Sarevok wrote:Vader is a walking warp core waiting to go boom ?
Nobody ever said that. However, recall the damage his life support systems received after he got a full-bore blast from Palpatine on the Death Star; he *could* summon Force lightning, depending upon whether he needs mechanical or flesh appendages, but it would most probably damage his life support irreparably. He would have to return to his hyperbaric chamber promptly and peel it all off for repair.
Actually, given that after the full-strength blast from Palpatine, he couldn't even walk, I doubt that he'd be able to return to his hyperbaric chamber for repairs.

Even if he could it was on board the Executor anyway. so unless the Rebels happen to have something similar than Vader is done for. There is no time to build a new one before Vader would die.