EU Books hijack

OmegaGuy · Post by **OmegaGuy** » 2006-02-06 08:03pm

I think Darksaber was worse than Crystal Star, personally.

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-06 08:38pm

I haven't read alot of EU books. Okay, I read ONE, and not even completly, I got bored half way.
I think that the EU books are unworthy to be counted as Star Wars material, but that's only my personal opinion, and I don't out-rank old George...

...having alot of trouble wording stuff...typical of newbs, I suppose...

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2006-02-06 08:50pm

Simmon wrote:I haven't read alot of EU books. Okay, I read ONE, and not even completly, I got bored half way.
I think that the EU books are unworthy to be counted as Star Wars material, but that's only my personal opinion, and I don't out-rank old George...

...having alot of trouble wording stuff...typical of newbs, I suppose...

which book was that?

SW EU is extensive enough that you really can't judge it based on one book.

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-07 03:56pm

The name evades me, but it was the one where Lando, C3PO and R2 D2 were stuck on that bioship of sorts. I'll look it up, unless one of you knows what I'm talking about.

Lord Revan wrote:SW EU is extensive enough that you really can't judge it based on one book.

Very true. But since Wars keeps a much beter continuity than Trek, I would need to read the whole EU from the begining to "get with it". I can't possibly find that much time, an besides, there are 3 books on my to-read list.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-02-07 04:03pm

Simmon wrote:The name evades me, but it was the one where Lando, C3PO and R2 D2 were stuck on that bioship of sorts. I'll look it up, unless one of you knows what I'm talking about.

That would be one of the Black Fleet Crisis books, i.e Before the Storm,Shield of Lies, or Tyrant's Test (IIRC the Teljkon vagabond storyline extends thoughout all three).

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-02-07 04:06pm

Simmon wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:SW EU is extensive enough that you really can't judge it based on one book.
Very true. But since Wars keeps a much beter continuity than Trek, I would need to read the whole EU from the begining to "get with it". I can't possibly find that much time, an besides, there are 3 books on my to-read list.

Who says you have to read it all in one go? Start with the first books (unless I'm very much mistaken that was the Thrawn Trilogy) and work your way up from there one book (or trilogy) at a time.

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-07 04:17pm

Where would one go to find the order of the EU books?

Batman wrote:That would be one of the Black Fleet Crisis books, i.e Before the Storm,Shield of Lies, or Tyrant's Test (IIRC the Teljkon vagabond storyline extends thoughout all three).

Did you have that from memory?

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-02-07 04:36pm

Simmon wrote:Where would one go to find the order of the EU books?

Batman wrote:That would be one of the Black Fleet Crisis books, i.e Before the Storm,Shield of Lies, or Tyrant's Test (IIRC the Teljkon vagabond storyline extends thoughout all three).
Did you have that from memory?

Why wouldn't he?

Darth Cronos the Proud · Post by **Darth Cronos the Proud** » 2006-02-07 04:41pm

Batman wrote:Who says you have to read it all in one go? Start with the first books (unless I'm very much mistaken that was the Thrawn Trilogy) and work your way up from there one book (or trilogy) at a time.

Actually, unless I'm mistaken, the first post RotJ EU book would be The Truce at Bakura (sorry, but I can't remember the author.) It begins the day after the Battle of Endor and wasn't half bad.

Darth Cronos the Proud · Post by **Darth Cronos the Proud** » 2006-02-07 04:44pm

Simmon wrote:Where would one go to find the order of the EU books?

Just get the most recent EU book published (I would think that it would be one of the Dark Nest Trilogy books) and look at the first couple of pages, it gives a timeline with the books listed at what point in the SW continuity they take place.

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-07 04:56pm

Darth Cronos the Proud wrote:Just get the most recent EU book published (I would think that it would be one of the Dark Nest Trilogy books) and look at the first couple of pages, it gives a timeline with the books listed at what point in the SW continuity they take place.

Many thanks.

Elheru Aran wrote: Why wouldn't he?

Yes, I suppose that you would remenber trivia about an intrest, especialy when you are constantly being reminded of it ie. on this board.
I just never met anyone who could rattle off trivia about anything...
I need to memorize alot....

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-02-07 05:34pm

Truth be told, while the bioship bit meant it was from Black Fleet Crisis, I did have to look up the book titles and the name of the ship.

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-07 05:41pm

Batman wrote:Truth be told, while the bioship bit meant it was from Black Fleet Crisis, I did have to look up the book titles and the name of the ship.

That's a relief.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-02-07 06:06pm

From here

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2006-02-07 06:42pm

Simmon wrote:
Batman wrote:Truth be told, while the bioship bit meant it was from Black Fleet Crisis, I did have to look up the book titles and the name of the ship.
That's a relief.

Why do you find it peculiar that he might have known that from the top of his head? You do realize that some of the people on this board have been discussing Star Wars on line for eight years or more, do you not?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-02-07 06:48pm

Publius wrote: Why do you find it peculiar that he might have known that from the top of his head? You do realize that some of the people on this board have been discussing Star Wars on line for eight years or more, do you not?

I happen to understand his reaction. When you're surrounded by people who have apparently memorized the entire Valendamned EU I can see it being a relief if someone says 'Um-I actually had to look that up'. Valen I've been with this place for more than three years and I sometimes still feel intimidated.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2006-02-07 09:08pm

I've, to my shame, only read two- Shadows of the Empire(Royally meh.), and The Truce at Bakura(I liked it, it still carried that Star Wars feel... Though the Ssi Ruuk lacked any real skil. Or purpose. Or intelligence.)- That's the one with the Ssi Ruuk, right?

But I've learnt the plot, problems and writing styles of virtually every other EU book just from reading the forums. That's actually kind of sad.

General Soontir Fel · Post by **General Soontir Fel** » 2006-02-08 01:01am

Darth Cronos the Proud wrote:
Batman wrote:Who says you have to read it all in one go? Start with the first books (unless I'm very much mistaken that was the Thrawn Trilogy) and work your way up from there one book (or trilogy) at a time.
Actually, unless I'm mistaken, the first post RotJ EU book would be The Truce at Bakura (sorry, but I can't remember the author.) It begins the day after the Battle of Endor and wasn't half bad.

Truce at Bakura is the first post-ROTJ chronologically, but the Thrawn Trilogy was the first published (unless you count Splinter of the Mind's Eye, published before ESB came out).

If you don't want to read everything, pick up the Essential Chronology (either version will do), which contains a short summary of events in each novel. Then, based on that, you can decide to read or not.

Also, as far as continuity is concerned, The Crystal Star and the Callista trilogy (Children of the Jedi, Darksaber, and Planet of Twilight) can be ignored completely. Virtually nothing from these books makes it into the later stories (beyond a short mention of Luke's romantic relationship with Callista at the start of Specter of the Past).

Oddysseus · Post by **Oddysseus** » 2006-02-08 05:12pm

General_Soontir_Fel wrote:
Darth Cronos the Proud wrote:
Batman wrote:Who says you have to read it all in one go? Start with the first books (unless I'm very much mistaken that was the Thrawn Trilogy) and work your way up from there one book (or trilogy) at a time.
Actually, unless I'm mistaken, the first post RotJ EU book would be The Truce at Bakura (sorry, but I can't remember the author.) It begins the day after the Battle of Endor and wasn't half bad.
Truce at Bakura is the first post-ROTJ chronologically, but the Thrawn Trilogy was the first published (unless you count Splinter of the Mind's Eye, published before ESB came out).

If you don't want to read everything, pick up the Essential Chronology (either version will do), which contains a short summary of events in each novel. Then, based on that, you can decide to read or not.

Also, as far as continuity is concerned, The Crystal Star and the Callista trilogy (Children of the Jedi, Darksaber, and Planet of Twilight) can be ignored completely. Virtually nothing from these books makes it into the later stories (beyond a short mention of Luke's romantic relationship with Callista at the start of Specter of the Past).

As someone who has read Crystal Star and all the Callista guff, I concur. Stuff like that killed my interest long before the NJO. I haven't had the urge to pick up a SW novel since. Though I got a few audio books of the Clone War era and the ROTS audio.

Perseid · Post by **Perseid** » 2006-02-08 05:40pm

Having read the vast majority of the post RotJ EU, like most of the people on this board, I found some interesting (HttE, HoT and several others), some to be a bit meh (Calista story arc, JA tril, anything by KJA) and some to be entertaining if a bit rediculous (X Wing series).

When it comes to people and trivia, especially SW trivia, you'll get used to it Simmon. Most people on here could appear on Mastermind with SW as a specialist subject[/url]

Simmon · Post by **Simmon** » 2006-02-09 04:06pm

I suppose so.
Now ask me a Starcraft question

Big fan of that game, but I stink in B-net...

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2006-02-09 05:23pm

The EU has it's highs and lows. Unfortunately the highs are less numerous than the lows.

After the last excersion I took into the EU (the final Dark Nest Book) that I vowed than and there I'd never read another new EU book as long as i lived.

Perseid · Post by **Perseid** » 2006-02-09 06:03pm

Lord Pounder wrote:The EU has it's highs and lows. Unfortunately the highs are less numerous than the lows.

After the last excersion I took into the EU (the final Dark Nest Book) that I vowed than and there I'd never read another new EU book as long as i lived.

You mean until the next offering of post-NJO EU comes out and you just can't help yourself....

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2006-02-10 05:46am

Mr CorSec wrote:
Lord Pounder wrote:The EU has it's highs and lows. Unfortunately the highs are less numerous than the lows.

After the last excersion I took into the EU (the final Dark Nest Book) that I vowed than and there I'd never read another new EU book as long as i lived.
You mean until the next offering of post-NJO EU comes out and you just can't help yourself....

Honestly not even then, i actually canceled my pre-order for Outbound Flight after finishing Swarm War.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-02-10 11:21pm

Lord Pounder wrote:
Mr CorSec wrote:
Lord Pounder wrote:The EU has it's highs and lows. Unfortunately the highs are less numerous than the lows.

After the last excersion I took into the EU (the final Dark Nest Book) that I vowed than and there I'd never read another new EU book as long as i lived.
You mean until the next offering of post-NJO EU comes out and you just can't help yourself....
Honestly not even then, i actually canceled my pre-order for Outbound Flight after finishing Swarm War.

Honestly, I don't understand this. I mean, the same authors aren't involved, the eras are completely different, the existing base material is pretty solid (Thrawn Trilogy, etc.) Do you stop watching all of the shows on a TV channel after one of them disappoints you, too?