Argh- darn worm on a friend's computer.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2006-02-15 08:44pm

Naquitis wrote:No, I'm talking DOS. It's on every system, but I know that on XP, you can't access it unless from the outside, but the issue doens't matter anymore.

No, DOS does not and has not existed on NT-based operating systems at any time. You are either confusing it with something else or are running a FAT32 boot partition with DOS installed alongside (perhaps from Windows 98)

Naquitis · Post by **Naquitis** » 2006-02-15 08:54pm

phongn wrote:
Naquitis wrote:No, I'm talking DOS. It's on every system, but I know that on XP, you can't access it unless from the outside, but the issue doens't matter anymore.
No, DOS does not and has not existed on NT-based operating systems at any time. You are either confusing it with something else or are running a FAT32 boot partition with DOS installed alongside (perhaps from Windows 98)

Yes it does, but as I said, drop it. I've accessed DOS from a remote computer many times before. It's burried in the crosshairs of Windows, because Mircosoft never makes a new OS, they just stack onto the previous one. 2000 is a stack from 98 and NT4. It's disabled access for the simple user, but with some hacking skills you can find it.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2006-02-15 09:43pm

Naquitis wrote:Yes it does, but as I said, drop it.

On this board you are expected to defend your assertions, sir.

I've accessed DOS from a remote computer many times before. It's burried in the crosshairs of Windows, because Mircosoft never makes a new OS, they just stack onto the previous one. 2000 is a stack from 98 and NT4. It's disabled access for the simple user, but with some hacking skills you can find it.

Windows 2000 is not a "stack" on top of Windows 98, though it is a descendant of NT4. Any GUI similarities between Windows 2000 and Windows 98 do not apply to the lower-level bits. It is highly likely that you have accessed the command shell or the recovery console in this manner.

In addition, Microsoft has indeed created entirely new operating systems before (Windows NT and Windows CE, for example).

Naquitis · Post by **Naquitis** » 2006-02-15 10:25pm

phongn wrote:
Naquitis wrote:Yes it does, but as I said, drop it.
On this board you are expected to defend your assertions, sir.

I've accessed DOS from a remote computer many times before. It's burried in the crosshairs of Windows, because Mircosoft never makes a new OS, they just stack onto the previous one. 2000 is a stack from 98 and NT4. It's disabled access for the simple user, but with some hacking skills you can find it.
Windows 2000 is not a "stack" on top of Windows 98, though it is a descendant of NT4. Any GUI similarities between Windows 2000 and Windows 98 do not apply to the lower-level bits. It is highly likely that you have accessed the command shell or the recovery console in this manner.

In addition, Microsoft has indeed created entirely new operating systems before (Windows NT and Windows CE, for example).

*Sigh* I've told you my exact position, and my exact defense, I see no point in continuing to argue, as I'm very prone to flaming. Now I'm new to this board, but I'm also a mod at every other board I go to except one. All of them I enforce a very strict rule on no flaming, and no hijacking of threads. While this board may support flaming and almost encurage it, you still condone hijacking of threads, which is what is happening right now. The guy asked for help with his computer, I gave him my opinion on the matter, having a lot experience with such matters. Hear me now, as I rarely curse, I am fucking done with this topic. I have stated my reasoning more than once and this is my last statement. As a programer, I am telling you that DOS is burried inside of every version of Windows. It lies dormant and unused in the later versions, mainly because there is no need for it. </End rant>

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2006-02-16 12:11am

Update:

There is in fact a Windows XP Pro OEM CD key. I have permission to format the drive.

Will any XP Pro OEM CD work? The retails won't, correct?

Will restore disks for another PC with XP Pro work?

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2006-02-16 12:55am

Naquitis wrote:you still condone hijacking of threads, which is what is happening right now.

What is punished around here is lying and spreading miss-information. And a mod will mostlikely perform an exorcism on this thread and split your bullshit into the Hall of Shame.

As a programer,

Claiming to be a programmer has nothing todo with your level of knowladge of the underlying OS.

I am telling you that DOS is burried inside of every version of Windows. It lies dormant and unused in the later versions, mainly because there is no need for it. </End rant>

You are a moron.

DOS isnt part of any of the Windows NT line. That is DOS is not a part of; Windows NT 3.x, NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003, Windows Vista.

DOS is used as an interactive bootloader for Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME.

DOS is part of the OS for Windows 1.x, Windows 2.x, Windows 3.x.

Trying to say otherwises is fucking stupid, and wrong.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2006-02-16 12:58am

Praxis wrote:Update:

There is in fact a Windows XP Pro OEM CD key. I have permission to format the drive.

Will any XP Pro OEM CD work? The retails won't, correct?

Correct, and correct.

Since you have a valid licence, go DL the correct CD image off the net from somewhere. Where it is and how you DL is up to you

Will restore disks for another PC with XP Pro work?

If it is XP Pro ORM.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2006-02-16 02:16am

ggs wrote:
Naquitis wrote:you still condone hijacking of threads, which is what is happening right now.
What is punished around here is lying and spreading miss-information. And a mod will mostlikely perform an exorcism on this thread and split your bullshit into the Hall of Shame.

Quite right, but this is not bad enuff to hos, I will just lock and laugh.