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Which one wins ?

Culture
31
82%
SW
7
18%
 
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
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Admiral Valdemar wrote: So in other words you are simply here to make your views known on a sci-fi race that isn't SW and are not actually debating as one might imagine in a thread such as this.

Hear that?

That is the sound of me not caring for your views.
Frankly I expected little else. The fact that you attacked all my {valid} comments on the culture like a trekkie fanboy says something though.
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Indeed... leave the Culture mulching to the Foundation Federation. Not only do they have the speed and the communications, but they've also got the firepower to back it up. :p
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NecronLord wrote:
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NecronLord wrote: Frankly I expected little else. The fact that you attacked all my {valid} comments on the culture like a trekkie fanboy says something though.
Which is highly ironic considering I am a Warsie after being a Vulture and was even considered a DoW in my early debating years (I even debated IXJac on the Culture fighting the Empire and wasn't convinced until I read the novels).

You have shown, albeit, vaguely how the Culture may not be as uber as some make it out to be (I know I don't see it as being unbeatable, the Xeelee would own them in time) but you have not shown how SW has a chance in this war other then simply giving up or asking Lucas to give them God powers.
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E1701 wrote:Indeed... leave the Culture mulching to the Foundation Federation. Not only do they have the speed and the communications, but they've also got the firepower to back it up. :p
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I think that's what this debate comes down to, NecronLord... you claimed that SW would win because of sheer numbers.

Unfortunately, all you've been able to demonstrate (that SW has faster speed and communication) are things we already knew, and don't really mean a damn in this scenario...
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Bah, suck on it, AV. Suck it long, and suck it hard. [/Connery] :D
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Numbers can help, but only so far.

Would anyone seriously expect a legion of Clone Troopers or Jem'Hadar warriors being able to beat a single Combat Drone with knife missiles? In the end, power is not always in numbers.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote: So in other words you are simply here to make your views known on a sci-fi race that isn't SW and are not actually debating as one might imagine in a thread such as this.

Hear that?

That is the sound of me not caring for your views.
Frankly I expected little else. The fact that you attacked all my {valid} comments on the culture like a trekkie fanboy says something though.
Which is highly ironic considering I am a Warsie after being a Vulture and was even considered a DoW in my early debating years (I even debated IXJac on the Culture fighting the Empire and wasn't convinced until I read the novels).

You have shown, albeit, vaguely how the Culture may not be as uber as some make it out to be (I know I don't see it as being unbeatable, the Xeelee would own them in time) but you have not shown how SW has a chance in this war other then simply giving up or asking Lucas to give them God powers.
DoW?

I never claimed that wars had much of a chance other than one highly dubious tactic (which I shall keep for some other time).

God powers

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E1701 wrote:Bah, suck on it, AV. Suck it long, and suck it hard. [/Connery] :D
I feel like I want to punch you.
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E1701 wrote:I think that's what this debate comes down to, NecronLord... you claimed that SW would win because of sheer numbers.
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NecronLord wrote: I never claimed that wars had much of a chance other than one highly dubious tactic (which I shall keep for some other time).

God powers

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NecronLord wrote:Wars wins. The numbers there are too large even for the culture.
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NecronLord wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:
NecronLord wrote: Frankly I expected little else. The fact that you attacked all my {valid} comments on the culture like a trekkie fanboy says something though.
Which is highly ironic considering I am a Warsie after being a Vulture and was even considered a DoW in my early debating years (I even debated IXJac on the Culture fighting the Empire and wasn't convinced until I read the novels).

You have shown, albeit, vaguely how the Culture may not be as uber as some make it out to be (I know I don't see it as being unbeatable, the Xeelee would own them in time) but you have not shown how SW has a chance in this war other then simply giving up or asking Lucas to give them God powers.
DoW?

I never claimed that wars had much of a chance other than one highly dubious tactic (which I shall keep for some other time).

God powers

Cloned Naga Shadows, millions of them, with extra medi-chlorains :D (couldn't help it)
Hmm, interesting.

But after seeing Episode I again this week on TV I have reacknowledged my hatred at the whole midichlorians thing. It is far too much like mitochondria which are simple bacterium that live in our cells and give them energy. I prefer the mystical Force thing myself, tell Exar Kun that his powers come from glorified amoebas. :shock:
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Oh and by DoW I mean Disciple of Wong, I spent hours a day on Wong and Poe's sites trying to rip apart Trekkie arguments on SB.com and ASVS. :)
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GSV Use Psychology wrote:
NecronLord wrote: I never claimed that wars had much of a chance other than one highly dubious tactic (which I shall keep for some other time).

God powers

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NecronLord wrote:Wars wins. The numbers there are too large even for the culture.
:D
Yup. Thats the highly dubious tactic. Namely get the entire imp fleet evenly spaced and hyperspace them onto the culture (no the culture would not be able to affect them in hyperspace, it is completely different, even claim that they would and I will have you anally violated by Jar Jar Binks :twisted: )
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Admiral Valdemar wrote: Hmm, interesting.

But after seeing Episode I again this week on TV I have reacknowledged my hatred at the whole midichlorians thing. It is far too much like mitochondria which are simple bacterium that live in our cells and give them energy. I prefer the mystical Force thing myself, tell Exar Kun that his powers come from glorified amoebas. :shock:
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With retrospect that rant should have been a seperate topic...
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NecronLord wrote:Wars wins. The numbers there are too large even for the culture.
NecronLord wrote:SW outnumbers the culture forces so badly they will win
(it's like 100 million Defiants vs 1 ISD)

Where am I not listening? You said it yourself...
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NecronLord wrote: Yup. Thats the highly dubious tactic. Namely get the entire imp fleet evenly spaced and hyperspace them onto the culture (no the culture would not be able to affect them in hyperspace, it is completely different, even claim that they would and I will have you anally violated by Jar Jar Binks :twisted: )
I don't know how they're supposed to hit the Culture ships when they're in hyperspace or happily cruising around at warp, but what the hell.

I'd personally displace a few combat drones onto Imp ships and laugh as the crew'd be brutally slain. :twisted:
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E1701 wrote:
NecronLord wrote:Wars wins. The numbers there are too large even for the culture.
NecronLord wrote:SW outnumbers the culture forces so badly they will win
(it's like 100 million Defiants vs 1 ISD)

Where am I not listening? You said it yourself...
Idiot the second quote was not by me....
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It was by Cpt Frank
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Yep it was me.
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has anyone pointed out the act that the ROU in Excession fully expected to die during its attack, and was very surprised when it survived?
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consequences wrote:has anyone pointed out the act that the ROU in Excession fully expected to die during its attack, and was very surprised when it survived?
Because of the way it fought, it was being foolish and simply toying with the AA because of the ruse it had tried to play on it.

The AA knew that the KT would have easily wiped him out.
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The way it read to me is that one of the flotillas could have been fucked up with the advantage of surprise, but the rest would have brought him down through weight of numbers in a conventional engagement.
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Isn't true that Culture ships fight from hyperspace? How would SW vessels attack it?
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