The Collapse of Atheism

Zadius · Post by **Zadius** » 2006-02-21 03:01pm

Video Link

Here's a video I found, I don't know if you guys have seen it. I did a forum search and found nothing. It's called "The Collapse of Atheism" and it appears to have been made by a muslim group. It's kind of long - 40 min, and if this steaming pile of blatant lies doesn't make you want to vomit, you are a better person than I. It's even more cheesy at times than the Kirk Cameron video.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-02-21 03:46pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:How about if it wasn't the way it is, we simply wouldn't be here to see it?

Such "cart before the horse" fallacies are common among Creationists. The planet isn't crafted to suit our narrow biological needs, we've simply had a few billion years to adapt to these conditions.

If Earth's environment were drastically different, we would be narrowly adapted to exploit those conditions instead.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-02-21 03:58pm

Stop trying to understand science stupid fundies, you only fuck it up. The bullshit gradually grows the more you watch it. They throw in hte odd fact and then draw the totally opposite conclusion that any rational person would, by the end of it they're pretty much just making shit up.

Zadius · Post by **Zadius** » 2006-02-21 04:19pm

The beginning of the video made was the worse, with the flames on the screen and images of the holocaust.

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2006-02-21 04:37pm

They make Atheisim sound like an evil disease

The images of the houlocaust have no place in the opening, Christians we're responsible for that one

And somebody better call Paramount

, the fundies used the Praxis explosion to illustrate the Big Bang

Other than that this vid is one big piece sh*t

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-02-21 04:55pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:This is funny. I am just partially through it, but they have already lied quite alot. The thing they are saying at the point I am at now is "the universe is perfectaly made so it can support human life, therefore God must have created it."

How about if it wasn't the way it is, we simply wouldn't be here to see it?

Douglas Adams, IIRC, was fond of a little analogy: the puddle looked at the hole it was in, and thought, Hey! This hole perfectly fits me! It must have been designed for me!

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2006-02-21 06:45pm

Whaaat? O RLY?

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(Repeat several times each minute)

God, what shit! I've reached my limit already and I'm only five minutes into this thing!

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2006-02-21 07:58pm

Atheists don't believe in the big bang? I endured ten minutes of that shit, by the Emperor!

Zor

Pint0 Xtreme · Post by **Pint0 Xtreme** » 2006-02-21 10:01pm

OOoh, they were actually doing so good with the explanation of the Big Bang Theory until they concluded that the universe came from nothing.

On the bright side, they had really cool animated affects.

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2006-02-21 10:46pm

Hmm wheren't the Greeks Pagans not atheist? Also wasn't Kant a deist???

Meh...

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2006-02-21 10:57pm

Whee, forty minutes of bullshit anthropic principles and half-assed religious ethics

. I found this quote particularly ironic though.

Patrick Glynn wrote:Study after study has shown a powerful relationship between religious belief and practice, on the one hand, and healthy behaviors with regard to suicide, alchohol and drug abuse, divorce [and] depression...on the other

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-02-21 11:35pm

I was genuinely unaware that every single tenant of my world view has been overturned by recent scientific advances. I mean, I already was aware that, as an atheist, I was 94.34501% more likely to commit suicide, abuse women, and sodomize baby goats, but this new revelation has really made me rethink my life. Thank you, cheesy flame-effect and thematically-timed piano music, you have let me see the light.

Praise Jesus!

Zadius · Post by **Zadius** » 2006-02-21 11:41pm

Noble Ire wrote:Praise Jesus!

No no, Praise Allah you idolator. Allah has no partner.

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2006-02-22 02:33am

I haven't had time to watch this yet, but just from the spiel to the side I know I'm in for a mind destroying trip.

Metatwaddle · Post by **Metatwaddle** » 2006-02-22 02:38am

Destructionator XIII wrote:This is funny. I am just partially through it, but they have already lied quite alot. The thing they are saying at the point I am at now is "the universe is perfectaly made so it can support human life, therefore God must have created it."

How about if it wasn't the way it is, we simply wouldn't be here to see it?

I like this little anecdote told by Richard Dawkins about Douglas Adams:

"To illustrate the vain conceit that the universe must be somehow pre-ordained for us, because we are so well-suited to live in it, he mimed a wonderfully funny imitation of a puddle of water, fitting itself snugly into a depression in the ground, the depression uncannily being exactly the same shape as the puddle."

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-02-22 02:42am

Fundies are always saying stupid shit like this. At one point, it was something about evolution being a dying theory. This was even repeated once by our wonderful ex leave-us-in-debt President Reagan.

They have this technique that goes something along the lines of this. "Since we hate anything that's not us, let's not even acknowledge it exists! Atheism is collapsing! Evolution is a dying theory!"

I've seen children with better reasoning skills...

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2006-02-22 02:52pm

Children DO have better reasoning skills, until they are beaten out by whatever indoctrination hits them.

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2006-02-22 03:09pm

That was 20 minutes (I sat through half and stopped in disgust) of-

'This comprehension has been destroyed by science. No, I won't say how. It just has.'

'The universe had a beginning, therefore creation, therefore, god'

'The precambrian explosion proves creation'

Etc. They definitely intend this to be shown to the stupid, because no one intelligent will give it the time of day intellecturall.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2006-02-22 04:26pm

FedRebel wrote:The images of the houlocaust have no place in the opening, Christians we're responsible for that one

wel, obviously they weren't true Christians. Nope, it was all an elaborate front that they put on... so elaborate, that it enveloped every aspect of their lives, no matter how minute or private. Yep, they did such a good job of hiding their true allegiances to the evil Godless forces of atheism, that even to this day, we can find no evidence of it! Obviously this means that they wanted to cover it up.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2006-02-22 04:47pm

felineki wrote:
FedRebel wrote:The images of the houlocaust have no place in the opening, Christians we're responsible for that one
wel, obviously they weren't true Christians. Nope, it was all an elaborate front that they put on... so elaborate, that it enveloped every aspect of their lives, no matter how minute or private. Yep, they did such a good job of hiding their true allegiances to the evil Godless forces of atheism, that even to this day, we can find no evidence of it! Obviously this means that they wanted to cover it up.

Score one for the evil atheist conspiracy!

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2006-02-22 05:05pm

Only 6 minutes into this movie, and I've counted at least 13 lies and distortions. So much strawmanning... what kind of morons made this video? They only talk about outdated theories... this is just sad...

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2006-02-22 05:26pm

This video contains enough outright lies that I can't even comprehend what kind of vaguely honest person could compile it. At this level of deception, I can't help but think that someone set this video up with the intention of lying to the viewer. This would require either a phenomenal amount of tunnel vision, where the fellow simply ignores vast amounts of contradictory evidence, or else there's intentional decieption involved.

Are fundies really this dumb?

Anomie · Post by **Anomie** » 2006-02-22 10:23pm

What a piece of historacal revisionist BULLSHIT. Watching it at first I wanted to cry, thinking "can people really be this willfully ignorant?". But when it got to Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, and even the hippy movement, and claimed that atheism was the cause behind all horror and immorallity of those times... Fuck Them!

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2006-02-22 10:32pm

What is the purpose of this video anyways? All it does is preach to the choir. Why the hell would they waste 40 fucking minutes with a tape like this?

Anomie · Post by **Anomie** » 2006-02-22 11:27pm

During WWII, the Germans and Japanese put out propaganda saying how well the war was going for them when anyone of their citizens could see that they were fucked.

It's the same thing here with them making up bullshit like how ID is being widely accepted and promoted in the scientific community and their blatent historical revisionism.

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