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Actually yes they do, they mention throughout variety of official sources that the Stygian cloaking field was not a double blind.PayBack wrote:It's been ages since I read the books, but IIRC Zahn didn't create the cloaks, just used existing cloaking technology?Ghost Rider wrote:I would like to point out that CANON has a cloak that's not a double blind for anyone advocating this. It's called Darth Maul's vessel.
In fact only Zahn created the double blind cloak.
And is there canon evidence that Mauls cloak doesn't suffer from the same limitation? I'm not arguing that it does, I'm asking because I've seen mention of the Sith vessel having a cloak but none on how it functioned.
And Zahn created the double blind since nowhere in canon did they mention it having such a weakness...in fact canon only mentions the cloak in ESB.
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The essential chronology says that only the stygian cloaks are not double blind, and the crystals ran out sometime during the prequel area.
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Note that the "double-blind" cloak is something of an absurdity. As we see in the later "Hand of Thrawn" duology, objects (such as weapons fire - or at least certain kinds of weapons fire, as well as TIE fighters) can pass safely in and out of the "double-blind" cloaks without being interdicted.
If massless TL fire can pass out (assuming these ARE the massless energy weapons variants,, that is) it might also be possible for active emissions to pass out (although doing so would basically give you away, and I'm not convinced that those wer massless beams firing: Zahn always struck me as going with the "particle" theory for blasters..)
Anyhow, this means that the cloak is only "double-blind" so long as the sensors and the like do not extend beyond the field. Cameras and passive sensors (and active sensors, if you disregard the fact they'd give you away) extended through the shields shoudl logically function (And given the freighter that Thrawn slipped into Bilbringi, or the cloaked Carracks, the cloaking effect does not have to extend far from the hull neccesarily.) if mounted on extendable struts.
Or, if for some reason you could not alter the size or shape of the cloaking field, then you just use tractor beams to manuver/hold/extend out some sort of probe or drone partly out of the shield and let it serve as the sensor platform. (according to BTM, ISD's have "dozens" of Tractor beams, presumably independent of the 10 combat-scale "ship-capturing" versions.)
Of course, one must also realize that "cloaking" technology is not just a single kind of device (or even two) there are quite a few different kinds of cloaking technologies (the kinds mentioned in the ISB, in the EGW&T, the Zahn cloak, Maul's cloak, Slave-1's cloaking system, the "camoflage shields" used on Imperial Naval vessels in "Lando Calrissian and the StarCave of ThonBoka, etc..)
If massless TL fire can pass out (assuming these ARE the massless energy weapons variants,, that is) it might also be possible for active emissions to pass out (although doing so would basically give you away, and I'm not convinced that those wer massless beams firing: Zahn always struck me as going with the "particle" theory for blasters..)
Anyhow, this means that the cloak is only "double-blind" so long as the sensors and the like do not extend beyond the field. Cameras and passive sensors (and active sensors, if you disregard the fact they'd give you away) extended through the shields shoudl logically function (And given the freighter that Thrawn slipped into Bilbringi, or the cloaked Carracks, the cloaking effect does not have to extend far from the hull neccesarily.) if mounted on extendable struts.
Or, if for some reason you could not alter the size or shape of the cloaking field, then you just use tractor beams to manuver/hold/extend out some sort of probe or drone partly out of the shield and let it serve as the sensor platform. (according to BTM, ISD's have "dozens" of Tractor beams, presumably independent of the 10 combat-scale "ship-capturing" versions.)
Of course, one must also realize that "cloaking" technology is not just a single kind of device (or even two) there are quite a few different kinds of cloaking technologies (the kinds mentioned in the ISB, in the EGW&T, the Zahn cloak, Maul's cloak, Slave-1's cloaking system, the "camoflage shields" used on Imperial Naval vessels in "Lando Calrissian and the StarCave of ThonBoka, etc..)
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well at least one type of cloaks don't turn the ship invisible to the naked eye (Goto's ship in KOTOR2)
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That's because the freighter wasn't cloaked. Its cargo hold was.Connor MacLeod wrote:Neither did the freighter Thrawn snuck into Bilbringi.
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