Modding Space Empire IV Gold

Tobor · Post by **Tobor** » 2006-02-23 10:48pm

There was no jump gate involved. THat i would have understood.

I attacked a planet and from what i can gather it treated the engagement like jumping onto a hostile warp point rather than a planetary assualt.

I've got the replay and im sure dalton can share it around too. It just seems absolutely retarded considering the very next engagement at the planet my fleet set up in a normal fashion.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2006-02-23 10:56pm

Well.

Was the planet on a warp point?

Recently I had a battle in the ST game where a bunch of fighters didn't go through a warp point but somehow appeared point blank one square away from my ships.

<edit>Did you do something strange like break a treaty with him on the same turn while you were still in orbit? That could happen. Or else maybe a glitch. Any case armor'll win the day, heavy armor class 1A

</edit>

Brian

Post by **Dalton** » 2006-02-23 11:39pm

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is...as far as I can tell things went normally. The planet wasn't on a warp point.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-24 02:17am

Gups, waitin' on ya.

The game's starting to get active and I'm tired of waiting for my Sharlins to build.

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 2006-02-24 02:46am

It's funny cos he just got home and had everyone asking him to do stuff. Now he just read that and he's going to go get dinner. Damn you Nephtys I'm bored!

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 03:28am

I've looked at both replays.

In the first engagement, the attacking Dilgar fleet begins at lot, lot closer:

If that isn't a little fucked I don't know what is.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 04:24am

ZOMG ZERG RUSH KEKE

Isn't it a little early for the Great War?

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-24 04:25am

GuppyShark wrote: ZOMG ZERG RUSH KEKE

Isn't it a little early for the Great War?

More like a skirmish or two. Hrm. Everyone's building now.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 04:37am

Actually, Neph, I think they left you out of the party. Your declaration of war came a turn before the Centauri and Vorlons broke their treaties with me. Snubbed!

Post by **Dalton** » 2006-02-24 05:07am

GuppyShark wrote: ZOMG ZERG RUSH KEKE

Isn't it a little early for the Great War?

I knew taking Brian's advice would be good for me in the long run.

Can you say pwned?

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-24 05:21am

GuppyShark wrote:Actually, Neph, I think they left you out of the party. Your declaration of war came a turn before the Centauri and Vorlons broke their treaties with me. Snubbed!

I never declared war. I only broke trade.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 05:21am

EDIT: Dalton, did you quote the right post?

EDIT: Nephtys, same same but different.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-24 05:55am

Weird bug?

Huh. This is really strange now but uh. I've been researching along my weapons tech, when a new option appears. Shadow Advanced Weapons.

I'm surprised, but don't know if it gives me anything or not. In my tech-test single player game, I never got this option. What the heck?

The mod is a bit buggy of course. I can't seem to acquire Improved Neutron Lasers, despite them being finished and balanced. Would this give me them, or a shadow beam, or nothing? Mew! :/

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 06:30am

I hope I see Kojiro soon. "NEPHTYS HAS SHADOWS WEAPONS! SHE'S ON MY SIDE NOW! PWNT!"

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2006-02-24 10:01am

Dalton wrote:I knew taking Brian's advice would be good for me in the long run.

Eh heh heh damn now I'm wishing I didn't give it gonna have to kill more of you xeno scum

Can you say pwned?

If some of you are building, I posted a saved game file earlier back with designs and ships with the shield armor that you get with chemistry 2 and physics 2 (passive armor physics/manufacturing/engineering) passive armor physics 6 being the best sort of like how fusion is better than fission or grav better than antimatter.

Nephtys wrote: Huh. This is really strange now but uh. I've been researching along my weapons tech, when a new option appears. Shadow Advanced Weapons.

Code: Select all

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Tech Level Req 1      := 1
[u]Tech Area Req 2       := Shadow Heavy Weapons[/u]
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Tech Area Req 3       := 0
Tech Level Req 3      := 
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Ability 1 Type        := 0
Ability 1 Descr       := 0
Ability 1 Val 1       := 0
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Ability 2 Descr       := 0
Ability 2 Val 1       := 0
Ability 2 Val 2       := 0
Weapon Type           := Direct Fire
Weapon Target         := Ships\Planets\Ftr\Sat\Drone
Weapon Damage At Rng  := 281 278 275 273 270 267 264 262 259 256 254 251 248 245 243 240 237 234 232 229
Weapon Damage Type    := Skips Armor
Weapon Reload Rate    := 1
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No, unless you have Shadow Heavy Weapons level 1. Dead-end technology. I have a lot of dead end technology too.

All the components are in components.txt in the B5 folder, techarea.txt, etc.

Improved Neutron Lasers aren't in the Minbari tech tree, dead-end cause you need Vorlon Heavy Weapons.

Brian

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 2006-02-24 10:20am

Guppyshark wrote:Shocked ZOMG ZERG RUSH KEKE

Isn't it a little early for the Great War?

High Exemplar Kreoss says....

Cry more newb!

Seriously, your end game weapons are better than mine. You have living CPUs. End of the day Shadow ships (since the vorlon shields are mentioned but not actually *in* the game) are going to win out. Where is the logic in me waiting around for you to get there?

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-24 11:12am

So it's a game mechanic decision driving your RP?

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-24 01:07pm

Brian, I know that's usually the case. But...

In SP, my first game as Earth Alliance, after I was done researching a few things, I got access to shadow beams and blew the crap out of the opposition.

Post by **Dalton** » 2006-02-24 02:02pm

GuppyShark wrote:EDIT: Dalton, did you quote the right post?

Yar, I thought that Zerg Rush bit was in reply to my battle with Tobor.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2006-02-24 02:13pm

Nephtys wrote:Brian, I know that's usually the case. But...

In SP, my first game as Earth Alliance, after I was done researching a few things, I got access to shadow beams and blew the crap out of the opposition.

If you start at medium or high technology (medium is default I think) it might give you a random sampling of technology.

Like if you start with high and see all technology you get maximum tech and you get every race's weapons

.

Brian

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 2006-02-24 10:18pm

So it's a game mechanic decision driving your RP? Smile

Well we do hate you. That also helps. Vorlons wanting to keep the Shadows power and influence under control (or anything under control for that matter) is hardly new.

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-25 03:31am

Trogdor wrote:"It was maddening to be forced to watch all this happen but have so little ability to influence it."

He did have a lot of ability to influence it. It's the direct result of severing ties with the Shadows, murdering their ambassador, and attacking their planets.

I have consistently gone out of my way to avoid being a prick to player races, but even I have limits.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-25 05:09am

GuppyShark wrote:
Trogdor wrote:"It was maddening to be forced to watch all this happen but have so little ability to influence it."
He did have a lot of ability to influence it. It's the direct result of severing ties with the Shadows, murdering their ambassador, and attacking their planets.

I have consistently gone out of my way to avoid being a prick to player races, but even I have limits.

I think it's an attempt to stop your power before it rises really. The Shadows DID conquer several homeworlds.

Sure, Brian's done the same. But he's so localized!

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2006-02-25 05:51am

The shadows have that fully-populated planet in Nocalo. Was that ever explained in RP?

GuppyShark · Post by **GuppyShark** » 2006-02-25 07:40am

Uraniun235 wrote:The shadows have that fully-populated planet in Nocalo. Was that ever explained in RP?

No, I don't have a planet in Nocalo. I have no presence there at all.

That was all about the RP.