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Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-02-25 03:26pm

Ire, is that really 174k?

Oops, extra zero.
I wish.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-25 03:28pm

Noble Ire wrote:
Ire, is that really 174k?
Oops, extra zero. I wish.

Yea, I just spied you.

Our great leader should perhaps take some cash from the coffers and make himself more presentable than his minions.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-02-25 03:36pm

Our great leader should perhaps take some cash from the coffers and make himself more presentable than his minions.

Silly peon. I possess a power so arcane and powerfult that your mind would wither if you ever attempted to harness it. For you see, I possess the power of Bureaucracy!

...with which, yes, I could empower myself through embezzlement.
Shut up.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-25 03:40pm

Muahahaha.

Pu-239 wrote:I'm just flooding all my money into offense, defense be damned, plus a couple unit production upgrades. I figure I can make a lot of money farming... right now at ~5.5K, which should be above the defense of most people. Unit production is at 60K, money at 1M/turn (would be higher, but I'm going for pure superweapons, since the loss in offensive power after each attack is getting irritating w/ the normal ones (due to attacking those w/ defenses only a few hundred thousand below, which results in single attack/repair cycles). Nowadays I don't even go for anyone below 15K

Are you saying you've been hitting people with at least 15 million?

You must be probing a lot of users.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-02-25 03:42pm

Animists Population Growth 51,000 /day
Pack Members Daily Training Rate 1.75 % of population (9,650 Pack Members /day)
Income / Turn: 1,181,439 Naquahdriah
Strike Action 1,426,978
Defensive Action 4,815,525
Covert Action 7,078,500

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2006-02-25 04:13pm

Soontir C'boath wrote:Muahahaha.

Pu-239 wrote:I'm just flooding all my money into offense, defense be damned, plus a couple unit production upgrades. I figure I can make a lot of money farming... right now at ~5.5K, which should be above the defense of most people. Unit production is at 60K, money at 1M/turn (would be higher, but I'm going for pure superweapons, since the loss in offensive power after each attack is getting irritating w/ the normal ones (due to attacking those w/ defenses only a few hundred thousand below, which results in single attack/repair cycles). Nowadays I don't even go for anyone below 15K
Are you saying you've been hitting people with at least 15 million?

You must be probing a lot of users.

Er, make that 10M

. Below 15M is where just waiting produces more money, so I wouldn't be able to make up money lost via raids overnight.

Agent R · Post by **Agent R** » 2006-02-25 05:04pm

Animists Population Growth 18,200 /day
Pack Members Daily Training Rate 1.63 % of population (3,395 Pack Members /day)
Income / Turn: 420,069 Naquahdriah
Strike Action 1,708,019
Defensive Action 1,421,383
Covert Action 3,397,625

Ire, how did our allies do during the assault? And have you figured out what the alliance and unified strikes do?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-02-25 05:29pm

Ire, how did our allies do during the assault?

Seven did a whole lot of damage it seems, although some of it may have just been Crystalforce selling off destroyable resources. As for the other two, I haven't even recieved confirmation that they participated.

And have you figured out what the alliance and unified strikes do?

They pool the attack strength of your entire alliance/officer network against a single target (to pretty awesome effect; one of my commander strikes did more than 11 million damage). However, they take a lot of turns, based on the number of people in your alliance/officers. I haven't been able to use an Alliance strike due to this (240+ turns).

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-02-26 12:10am

Believer Population Growth 56,200 /day
Worshiper Daily Training Rate 2.63 % of population (16,136 Worshiper /day)
Income / Turn: 1,476,818 Naquahdriah

Strike Action 0 Ranked: 3,044
Defensive Action 2,362,311 Ranked: 291
Covert Action 8,236,390 Ranked 359

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 12:22am

A-Wing, it's actually about two million/turn since 25% is going into the vault.

Regarding superweapons, I don't think it's truly viable at this early in this stage in the game but I am seeing a great positive about it when it is time.

Although it also takes a thousand workers to train, it also means you don't have to necessarily build up an army if you just do all out superweapons or only also accompanied with a small super army. With that there are no "real" troop losses when attacking or defending. When it comes to the enemy having super armies with 500k weapons that would definitely number far greater to compensate the amount of action, he will be at a loss. The ratio of the armies will be extraordinary high and thus he loses more troops and the repair costs for the 500k weapons will add up with it than the person holding many superweapons.

I conclude that sooner or later in the game, the loss curve will go to the person holding mainly a super soldier army.

It also seems to stress how the medical rate will play a very large role for those type of people to help reduce their losses.

Not that I would keep it that way myself. Sooner or later a thousand workers will be nothing and buying superweapons will be done with impunity.

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Edit: I need a CO without any officers or anyone willing to tax 25%. At critical I'm still making 700k and that'd mean I'll possibly get raided every three hours or so. It has to be 25% so you can take 200k from me reducing me to 500k/turn

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-02-26 12:39am

Soontir C'boath wrote: Edit: I need a CO without any officers or anyone willing to tax 25%. At critical I'm still making 700k and that'd mean I'll possibly get raided every three hours or so. It has to be 25% so you can take 200k from me reducing me to 500k/turn

Make me your commander!

Already taxing fuzzy at 25%.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 12:44am

Beowulf wrote:
Soontir C'boath wrote: Edit: I need a CO without any officers or anyone willing to tax 25%. At critical I'm still making 700k and that'd mean I'll possibly get raided every three hours or so. It has to be 25% so you can take 200k from me reducing me to 500k/turn
Make me your commander!Already taxing fuzzy at 25%.

Fuzzy is the one you're farming? Well, all right. It'll be 600k per turn you'll be getting from me when I have no covert alert and about 175k when I'm at critical.

I wonder how we'll distribute this...

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-02-26 12:52am

Soontir C'boath wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
Soontir C'boath wrote: Edit: I need a CO without any officers or anyone willing to tax 25%. At critical I'm still making 700k and that'd mean I'll possibly get raided every three hours or so. It has to be 25% so you can take 200k from me reducing me to 500k/turn
Make me your commander!Already taxing fuzzy at 25%.
Fuzzy is the one you're farming? Well, all right. It'll be 600k per turn you'll be getting from me when I have no covert alert and about 175k when I'm at critical.

I wonder how we'll distribute this...

50-50, when the coffers reach 10mil?

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 12:56am

So every other 10 million goes to one of us? Ok, that sounds good.

Edit: And there goes 600k into your vault. You should probably flush out the 9 million you already have in there and spend it. No point in letting it lying there and it'll mix up a bit with my income going in there.

Hmm, didn't reduce my income as I thought it would. Well, later today I'll be able to see if I get farmed.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 10:40am

I'm starting to see a trend with super-weapons. It seems they are able to reduce the enemy's action as much as a million. Such as just recently, I attacked someone with 16 superweapons and sixty troops totally around 4.4 million action and I attacked with a supposed action of more than 5.3 million and yet it registers to be 4.1 million damaged caused to him.

Yea, I lost there...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-02-26 10:47am

Soontir C'boath wrote:I'm starting to see a trend with super-weapons. It seems they are able to reduce the enemy's action as much as a million. Such as just recently, I attacked someone with 16 superweapons and sixty troops totally around 4.4 million action and I attacked with a supposed action of more than 5.3 million and yet it registers to be 4.1 million damaged caused to him.

Yea, I lost there...

Might also be a result of his upgrades in Medical and Strenght. I have been upgrading those and I don't see an impact in my ranking stats, but they hve to do something.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 11:01am

Ender wrote:
Soontir C'boath wrote:I'm starting to see a trend with super-weapons. It seems they are able to reduce the enemy's action as much as a million. Such as just recently, I attacked someone with 16 superweapons and sixty troops totally around 4.4 million action and I attacked with a supposed action of more than 5.3 million and yet it registers to be 4.1 million damaged caused to him. Yea, I lost there...
Might also be a result of his upgrades in Medical and Strenght. I have been upgrading those and I don't see an impact in my ranking stats, but they hve to do something.

Medical rate only effects how much your troop losses will be reduced and P.E. and Strength correlates with the offensive and defensive action so I don't think it's those two.

I think the super weapons have major minus modifiers against whoever opposes them. It sounds plausible since they do cost in the tens of millions.

I like to revise my previous statement and I will and have in my armoury superweapons this early on. Though that's only because I make enough workers a day that a thousand or two workers a day won't truly affect my income growth. And 20 million + used on them each day would seriously hamper my growth so I'm going have to think about what I'm going to do about this.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-02-26 02:19pm

Soontir C'boath wrote:
Ender wrote:
Soontir C'boath wrote:I'm starting to see a trend with super-weapons. It seems they are able to reduce the enemy's action as much as a million. Such as just recently, I attacked someone with 16 superweapons and sixty troops totally around 4.4 million action and I attacked with a supposed action of more than 5.3 million and yet it registers to be 4.1 million damaged caused to him. Yea, I lost there...
Might also be a result of his upgrades in Medical and Strenght. I have been upgrading those and I don't see an impact in my ranking stats, but they hve to do something.
Medical rate only effects how much your troop losses will be reduced and P.E. and Strength correlates with the offensive and defensive action so I don't think it's those two.

I think the super weapons have major minus modifiers against whoever opposes them. It sounds plausible since they do cost in the tens of millions.

I like to revise my previous statement and I will and have in my armoury superweapons this early on. Though that's only because I make enough workers a day that a thousand or two workers a day won't truly affect my income growth. And 20 million + used on them each day would seriously hamper my growth so I'm going have to think about what I'm going to do about this.

Superweapons aren't manned. So if you attack with say.. 10 hiveships, you won't take any 'personel' losses.

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-02-26 03:56pm

http://chaosgate.stargatewars.com/stats.php?id=73

If I had turns I'd hit him, but I don't, so I point him out to you guys. Well over 10 mil, which I think is a lot, and only 14k defense, which sucks.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2006-02-26 07:04pm

Ugh, 50M stolen while I was out...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-02-26 07:08pm

Pu-239 wrote:Ugh, 50M stolen while I was out...

All your production, or did NI give you that 47 mil from the alliance vault (I saw it proposed alliance money go to people in the alliance to upgrade, no idea if that is what was done or not)

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2006-02-26 07:11pm

Production.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2006-02-26 07:11pm

Pu-239 wrote:Ugh, 50M stolen while I was out...

Raise your Realm Alert to critical.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2006-02-26 07:14pm

'You feel more evolved'? I suppose that's good. But I could really do without the glowy thing.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2006-02-26 07:22pm

Geez, attacks will never be able to make up for lost production >_>