ST / SW encounter in OR era

Acclamator · Post by **Acclamator** » 2002-12-08 01:26pm

A wormhole opens between the Alpha Centauri system and the Coruscant system. It's about 20 years before the time of TPM. The Federation and the Republic discover it almost at the same time.

What happens? (Considering the very different outlook of the Republic to that of the agressive, expansionist Empire)

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-08 01:48pm

Jedi negotiate a trade agreement, or atleast attempt to, since the Sith will try something that may or may not be successful. Remember that at that point the Jedi had their own armed cruisers to call upon if needed.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-12-08 02:13pm

federation still makes a small mistake and the republican forces crush them

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » 2002-12-08 02:53pm

starfury wrote:federation still makes a small mistake and the republican forces crush them

What would that mistake be?

The Federation isn't the type to go around provoking war.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2002-12-08 02:58pm

The Republic decides to bring their technology and society to the Federation primitives, but the Feddies say no to the change in culture.
Then the Republic brings in the good 'ol clones and tramples them.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-08 03:37pm

*LMAO*The Republic shows the Feddies what good ol capitalism is really like .

Imagine the Fed representatives reaction to seeing Kamino and Kuat

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-08 03:37pm

Captain tycho wrote:The Republic decides to bring their technology and society to the Federation primitives, but the Feddies say no to the change in culture.
Then the Republic brings in the good 'ol clones and tramples them.

I don't think they started making clones until after TPM.

What ships did the OR have around that time? They would still have Imperial technology, including the super-fast hyperdrive.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-08 03:39pm

Feddies don't go arround starting wars? is that why every race in the AQ has had a war at one point or aother with them?

Deimos Anomaly · Post by **Deimos Anomaly** » 2002-12-08 03:51pm

I forsee the Ferengi getting involved to a high degree. Well, if they can reach and leave the wormhole at will, without the Federation giving them shit.

While the Federation is still trying to negotiate hyperdrive evaluation units from the Republic, the Ferengi will have already bought hypermatter reactors, hyperdrives, weapons technology, droid technology, and speeders galore from the Hutts, with Orion sex slaves as payment.

The Ferengi Alliance quickly becomes the AQ's only superpower.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-12-08 04:05pm

forsee the Ferengi getting involved to a high degree. Well, if they can reach and leave the wormhole at will, without the Federation giving them shit.

While the Federation is still trying to negotiate hyperdrive evaluation units from the Republic, the Ferengi will have already bought hypermatter reactors, hyperdrives, weapons technology, droid technology, and speeders galore from the Hutts, with Orion sex slaves as payment.

The Ferengi Alliance quickly becomes the AQ's only superpower.

nice twist of fate, the weak and arrogant ferengi looked so down by the federation eventually became their superior when it actually matters.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2002-12-08 05:36pm

Well, 20 years before TPM Senator Palpatine is still dilligently working towards the ascendency of the Sith and the destruction of both the Jedi and the Republic. Given that, and given that contact with extra-galactic powers would grab the attention of the entire galaxy, I'd say it's only a matter of time until our ambitious senator from Naboo finds a way to twist things to further his purpose. There's no doubt in my mind that Palpatine had been working for a long, long time on the groundwork for the blockade of Naboo. So, assume the first meeting of Republic and Federation is peaceful (I can't see why it wouldn't be, Jedi mediators would no doubt be involved.)

Now, go forward 20 years. Where the Republic would have once been faltering from internal strife, now external enemies are the problem. Palpatine has his choice of several strawmen: the Romulans, Ferengi, Cardassians, or the Dominion could all serve as the evil outside threat requiring a standing army to defend against. The Borg would definitely scare people. Any one of those groups could provide the impetus to create an army and invade the Alpha Quadrant. Plus, if Palpatine doesn't have to engineer a civil war, he could always use his influence within the Trade Federation to sic their battle droids on the Alpha Quadrant as well.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-08 06:26pm

Darth Pounder wrote:Feddies don't go arround starting wars? is that why every race in the AQ has had a war at one point or aother with them?

That doesn't mean that the Federation started the war now does it?

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-12-08 06:39pm

Palpetine would probably try to sneak himself in Federation politics... Then introduce SW tech, take out the Feddies enemies. After that, when they all think he's a hero and all, he seizes power

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-12-08 06:43pm

Palpetine would probably try to sneak himself in Federation politics... Then introduce SW tech, take out the Feddies enemies. After that, when they all think he's a hero and all, he seizes power

wouldn't it be better for him to takeover the republic, which has superior tech anyways and them to borrow a page from chuck's fan fiction, support the feddies and attempt galactic domination

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-08 06:53pm

Captain tycho wrote:The Republic decides to bring their technology and society to the Federation primitives, but the Feddies say no to the change in culture.

The motion would die in the Senate

Then the Republic brings in the good 'ol clones and tramples them.

Those clones that they won't have for another 30 years?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-08 07:10pm

A few thoughts on what the Sith would do:

Plan A:
Through the work of Palpatine the AQ powers get united. I have no specific plan on this, but lets take it as a good starting point. Afterall, he was able to get Dooku to unite a few thousand starsystems that had no real reason to do so. And a few underhanded ways, he gets them armed with some good tech (like he did for the Trade Federation). Now he just needs to engineer a disaster, maybe a few assasinations, and basically get the A/B Q powers riled up enough to invade

Plan B:
A few well placed bombs and assinations, and get the Jedi to go in for the wrong reasons to "civilize" the place like Dooku did when he and the Jedi ended up wiping out the Mandalorians.

Plan C:
Accelerate the plans with the TF or some other power, and get them to go in instead, like he did with the Yinchorri against the Jedi or the Cartels and TF for the Stark Hyperspace War

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-12-08 07:27pm

It isnt an issue of the senate giving the tech to the Feds (or other ST races) since they can just go out and buy the information (or devices) from the many free enterprises that exist in tghe SW galaxy, it may take a little more work for them if they bypass the OR but not a lot more.

If the Feds control the wormhole they will get the technology first and then share it with the Klingons, the Romulans obtain it by stealing it or buying it from the Ferengi.

As for what would happen with Palp, I dont see his plan changing much acept once he takes control of the OR he forces the ST races under his boot but as a semi-independant state.

namdoolb · Post by **namdoolb** » 2002-12-08 07:31pm

Considering the mainly peaceful nature of both the Federation and the OR, initial meetings and talks would likely be successful and productive for both parties.

Whilst the OR might not formally agree to share technology, it's going to be very difficult for them to outright prevent it. (one of those things about capitalism) Lets' face it, even if the republic won't sell their tech the hutts probably would. (Tatooine was a hutt planet, and the Republic didn't have very much influence at all over what happened out there).

End result? AQ races ARE going to get SW tech. 20 years is more than long enough for them to aquire it, and also probably long enough for them to apply it in a "monkey see, monkey do" fashion. It may even be long enough for them to figure out how it works, but I don't hold out much hope for that.

The Borg? They're out of the equation. once SW tech starts appearing they'll be so outclassed it isn't even funny. Nobody would ever give the tech to the borg, and they won't be able to take it by force, so they ain't gonna get their hands on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they were wiped out in a huge witch hunt by several races working together.

Borg aside though, the playing field across the whole galaxy is levelled. Anyone who can afford the tech could be on a level playing field with the best in the galaxy.

If Palpatine's smart, he'll give the technology freely. Then watch as it goes to the head of every race out there. Then as the Races in the milky way fight each other (as they will) he has the perfect excuse to step up the republic military as a pre-emptive defense against the violent extra-galactic savages. Then with his built up military he can bring order to his galaxy and the war torn star trek galaxy in one fell swoop. He has nothing to fear from an invasion because the trek races will be too busy slaughtering each other, so he can build up and ...pacify

at his leisure.

MirrorUniverseSpy1 · Post by **MirrorUniverseSpy1** » 2002-12-09 01:10am

I agree that the Ferengi, would jump at the chance to do business
with the Republic, and would soon have to tools to become the top
power in the AQ.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-12-09 01:24am

And them Feds thought capitalism was a bad thing.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-12-09 01:41am

Serves them right for turning the Ferengi into a one-note race.

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-12-09 01:56am

'imagines souped-up SW equipped Mauraders flying around the AQ'

that would be cool. I've always liked the D'Kora class ships.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-09 02:35am

In situations like this, it's quite possible to vault the mileenia-wide gap in tech.

1) Send all your prospective engineering students to Republican schools. They never learn according to the limitations of Fed science and technology.

2) Buy equipment for the newly educated engineers.

3) Let the old engineers get pensioned off to complain about back in their day.

Should take less than twenty years, to cross the gap. It's cheating, but eh.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-09 08:08am

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:Feddies don't go arround starting wars? is that why every race in the AQ has had a war at one point or aother with them?
That doesn't mean that the Federation started the war now does it?

So they unlucky? A war with the Klingons is unlucky. a war with about 10 other races is just warmongering.

desertjedi · Post by **desertjedi** » 2002-12-09 09:15am

I think trade and peace talks with the federation will go fine, unless the other races have something to say about it. I can see the Romulans coming aligning with the Sith in order the gain a higher status in the AQ.

Of course, for those races in the AQ that try to run negotiations like the TF in TPM will learn why the Republic has been in existence for over a thousand generations, the Jedi.