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closet sci-fi fan wrote:Will smoking sunflower seeds a single time result in serious negative health effects? I ask because I just dumped my brother's bag of weed into the toilet and replaced it with ground sunflower seeds. I left a full sunflower seed shell in the bag to clue him in but he WAS dumb/high enough to leave the bag out in the open...

Should I leave him a note or will he be OK?
Uhhh... He might get kind of pissed that he spent money on weed, only to have you dump it out.

Seriously, I work with addicts and alcoholics (I'm not calling him one, just bear with me) and I would just say to ask yourself why the hell you're doing that? You can't change someone's behavior, right? He's just going to go out and get another one?

So, you've accomplished what? A potential fight. Good job.
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You know your bother is going to be pissed because he just lost however much money that bag cost, and tactics like that simply do not work to stop a person from using drugs. In any case, no way smoking sunflower seeds is going to be worse then smoking pot, THC is already a poison, though a very weak one. I’d laugh at him if he actually smoked sunflower seed thinking they where pot though, pot has a pretty distinctive smell.
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Yeah, it would be pretty funny. If he did while high, it might take him a while to figure it out... If he's not, he'll probably notice immediately.
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Burning anything, and sucking it into the lungs is generally a no no. In this case, it'll probably be a tad unpleasant. Plus, he'll probably notice the difference before he tries it.
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Vaporous wrote:Burning anything, and sucking it into the lungs is generally a no no. In this case, it'll probably be a tad unpleasant. Plus, he'll probably notice the difference before he tries it.
He's already smoking pot (at least), I seriously doubt that this is going to have much of an effect.

People chew sunflower seeds and swallow the juices all the time.
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Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
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If he doesn't recognize it for sunflower seed shells, then he's got larger problems than smoking marijuana.

But at least he isn't smoking a cookie :D
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Vaporous wrote:Burning anything, and sucking it into the lungs is generally a no no. In this case, it'll probably be a tad unpleasant. Plus, he'll probably notice the difference before he tries it.
He's already smoking pot (at least), I seriously doubt that this is going to have much of an effect.

People chew sunflower seeds and swallow the juices all the time.
But not while it's on fire.
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closet sci-fi fan wrote:Will smoking sunflower seeds a single time result in serious negative health effects? I ask because I just dumped my brother's bag of weed into the toilet and replaced it with ground sunflower seeds. I left a full sunflower seed shell in the bag to clue him in but he WAS dumb/high enough to leave the bag out in the open...

Should I leave him a note or will he be OK?
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I don't think smoking sunflower seeds will hurt him too bad, besides the effect of inhaling some smoke. I once gave someone oregano to smoke and it burned the hell out of their lungs and throat and threw them into a coughing fit, but they were fine after a few minutes, but that smoke was particularly sharp-tasting.

However, I don't know what the point was of throwing way his weed. He'll probably throw out one of your video games now.
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Have you tried actually talking to him about it?
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His Divine Shadow wrote:Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
Or you could confront him and deal with it like a mature adult, not an immature, sniveling little shit.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
Or you could confront him and deal with it like a mature adult, not an immature, sniveling little shit.
I would say he's not dealing with one of those people, maybe taking it to his level will help.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:I would say he's not dealing with one of those people, maybe taking it to his level will help.
You must be a delightful brother or boyfriend, considering that when a loved one displeases you or does something you don't like you take it as a blank cheque to disrespect them and spite them.

Grow the fuck up.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
Fuck that. If someone played loud music you didn't like would you go and wreck there stereo and think there’s nothing wrong with that?
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To answer the original question: Inhaling smoke of any kind is generally not recommended. However, as for harmful effects beyond that, I don't believe there's anything one could be hurt by in/on sunflower seeds; as Superman observed, people eat them all the time.

Though I do wonder why you thought sunflower seeds, as even ground up I seriously doubt they'd look like pot...
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
Fuck that. If someone played loud music you didn't like would you go and wreck there stereo and think there’s nothing wrong with that?
There's a definite difference in cost and replaceability. Weed is much cheaper than a stereo. I would recommend beating his ass when he's high. It's easy if he's really stoned.
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wolveraptor wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:Well he didn't respect your wishes to not smoke in your presence, he's an asshole and this was his due.
Fuck that. If someone played loud music you didn't like would you go and wreck there stereo and think there’s nothing wrong with that?
There's a definite difference in cost and replaceability. Weed is much cheaper than a stereo. I would recommend beating his ass when he's high. It's easy if he's really stoned.
Or he could, you know, deal with it like a grownup and not resort to physical violence and not destroy other people's stuff. But hey, why bother with that boring adult shit when you could pull an infantile stunt?

Added to that, of course, is the fact that he replaced the weed with a substance that he wasn't sure was nontoxic, and admitted he didn't know if his brother would recognize it before he smoked it. So he's an infantile brat who's more concerned with being a self righteous prick than his brother's safety, too.
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wolveraptor wrote: There's a definite difference in cost and replaceability. Weed is much cheaper than a stereo.
It depends on the weed quality and quantity though. Some weed is $400+ an ounce, while even shwag weed would be $100 an ounce.

If we're talking about half-an-ounce of good stuff, it could be $200+ down the toilet.
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closet sci-fi fan wrote:I don't care about the FACT that he's smoking weed. It's the fact he chooses to smoke it while I'm around despite the fact that I have requested that he stop doing it while I'm at home because I can't stand the smell.
I think that implies reasonable discussion has already been attempted and has failed.
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RedImperator wrote:Or he could, you know, deal with it like a grownup and not resort to physical violence and not destroy other people's stuff. But hey, why bother with that boring adult shit when you could pull an infantile stunt?

Added to that, of course, is the fact that he replaced the weed with a substance that he wasn't sure was nontoxic, and admitted he didn't know if his brother would recognize it before he smoked it. So he's an infantile brat who's more concerned with being a self righteous prick than his brother's safety, too.
I was kidding about the ass-kicking part. I thought it was ridiculous enough to post without a smiley. My apologies. :P

You're right that his lack of concern for his brother's health is disturbing. I would think that he'd have enormous leverage over his brother on this matter anyways, seeing that weed is illegal (presuming he's American). Why resort to this dangerous behavior? Note: I'm assuming he's already confronted his brother about this. He did specify that he elucidated his concerns and complaints over his brother's behavior to him.
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Let's say, hypothetically, I hate the smell of curry. And let's also say I have a brother who loves Indian food. I have told him this several times, but he continues to eat it. Then one night, he comes home late and you've already eaten. He decides to order Indian. Which is the appropriate, adult response?

1. Wait until he gets up, and then throw away everything and replace it with wood shavings.

2. Spray some damn lysol.
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Is second-hand smoke from weed any less harmful than the same from regular joints?
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wolveraptor wrote:Is second-hand smoke from weed any less harmful than the same from regular joints?
You can't get high off it unless it's in ridiculous concentrations, if that's what you're asking. As far as the tar, carcinogens, et cetera, those are there, but they're also at a much lower concentration in secondhand smoke. Unless his brother is a walking Cheech and Chong movie, there won't be enough in the house to make this a health risk.
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PrinceofLowLight wrote:Let's say, hypothetically, I hate the smell of curry. And let's also say I have a brother who loves Indian food. I have told him this several times, but he continues to eat it. Then one night, he comes home late and you've already eaten. He decides to order Indian. Which is the appropriate, adult response?

1. Wait until he gets up, and then throw away everything and replace it with wood shavings.

2. Spray some damn lysol.
Smoking pot in the United States is illegal. Whether or not you agree with the law, this does fundamentally change the equation, here. If someone brings an illegal substance into my presence then yes, I am going to feel within my rights to dispose of it. And, yes, it would be inconsiderate of your brother to ignore your request. If he were to ignore your wishes consistently, then I think you would be in your rights to dispose of the food if you find its odor to be offensive.
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