Tactics

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

I mean the TL is more than enough destroy it...why didn't it just go on and make a clean hole?

If you will see the Bolt is bigger than the Asteroid, and the ISD has a lot of power to fire that one shot.

Not in diameter.

And prove Borg Boxs have any armour.

Duh, Borg ships assimilate other ships, add technology to their hull, as seen in the first encounter with a Cube,

WTF are you talking about? I didn't seem them sprouting a saucer section or naccelles.

they can heal like an animal as well.

Slowly.

Not to mention Borg TACTICAL CUBES.

Wow, ONE type of borg ship has armour.

[Sr.mal]

He is almost as bad as dorkstar

[beyond hope]

Thanks for agreeing with me, the entire point I was trying to make is the Empire was stupid, and underestimated the power or LUCK of the Rebels.

That wasn't your point, and you know it: trying to change your point in the face of evidence that it's a stupid one, and then claiming it's what you meant all along, merely makes you look dishonest.

So the Death Star killed two ships and shot at fighters, that already out maneuver the towers. Big deal, I was talking about the fact that the heavy Turbolasers were built to destroy attacking Capital Ships. Which they did not, except for the two.

The Death Star was busy destroying rebel capital ships with the Superlaser.

Um, that did not work, the Emperor was so full of himself, he did not know of Vaders turn of emotion. Remember Vader always planned to overthrough the Emperor, that is why Vader told Luke, "We Can Rule The Galaxy As Father And Son!"

Obi-Wan also states that the Emperor knew that if Anakin had any offspring, they would be a threat to him. In several of the EU novels, the Emperor tries to have Luke Skywalker killed, he only fails because he tries to do it subtly so that Vader won't connect the attempts to him. The one thing that the Emperor did not expect was Vader turning on him merely to save his son at the end: that was his one underestimation.

The Dominion War is over, there is no need, but when they encounter the NR and see the Technology they have, and the Technology the Empire will have, then the only way they can survive an joined attack is to start fitting the ships with Transphasic Torpedoes. Not to mention the movie would be 5 minutes long if the Enterprise could destroy a Enemy ship in one hit.

If the Feddies only put new weapons on their ships when they expect a war, they'll be even easier to beat than we thought.

The Coaxial Warp core creates a fold in the fabric of space, allowing a ship to fly at speed 100 times faster that Warp. If they do not work the same way, the results are the same.

Hyperdrive is approximately 10,000 times faster than warp. Assuming this piece of technobabble works you're only at slightly less of a speed disadvantage. Try again.

[Lord Pounder]

Where you droped in your head as a child you silly little bastard. The calculations are right in front of you eyes you green gilled cock master. You logic brings me to tears. Jesus christ if i had a son like u i'd drown him and save him those years of shame.

[Anarchist Bunny]

During the ROTJ, Vader and the Emperor knew of the Rebels landing on Endor, they did nothing, considering them to be, "No Matter" This was a big mistake, they were stronger than to be believed.

Thanks for agreeing with me, the entire point I was trying to make is the Empire was stupid, and underestimated the power or LUCK of the Rebels.

[Anarchist Bunny]

http://www.geocities.com/accaircraft/ra ... ession.txt

I think this is a funny picture, you see the "Big Bad Wolf" representing the "Big Bad Empire" and the little rabbit resembling the Federation, but the bottom of the pic shows the Worf eaten and the Rabbit alive and well.

Nice Choice!

Look at my username you stupid sack of shit.

[beyond hope]

I sense a shield of ignorance, strong enough to deflect any bombardment with logic...

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

The rebels weren't stronger than believed, they were luckier. You did catch the part where there was an entire legion of Stormtroopers on Endor, right? The only thing that saved the rebellion's asses on the ground there was the totally unexpected intervention of the Ewoks on their behalf. And yes, of course the Empire knew the Ewoks were there: did you stop and think that if the Ewoks had at any time threatened the security of that installation, that the Empire would have summarily exterminated them? Could it be, in fact, that the shock of the garrison to the Ewoks' appearance was that they had previously given the Empire no trouble at all?

Thanks for agreeing with me, the entire point I was trying to make is the Empire was stupid, and underestimated the power or LUCK of the Rebels.

How the fuck do you underestimate LUCK?

[beyond hope]

Exactly, it's totally unquantifiable... kinda like arguing that I could take out the whole Federation in the space shuttle Endeavor because a random fluctuation in Subspace would make every ship in Starfleet suffer a sudden warp core breach.

Now that I typed that, watch B&B steal it for an Enterprise episode....

[The Yosemite Bear]

About as well as if the Soviet Union of 1980 met the Brititsh Empire of 1908. With the Klingon's as the Germans, The Cardassian's as the Turks, The Gorn can be the French, and The Romulons will be the Empire of Japan.

[Antediluvian]

Even assuming that transphasic torpedoes deliver the same amount of power as a TL shot, so what?

ISD's are designed to take a ton of turbolaser blasts, even heavy HTL's. They could still withstand multiple spreads of torps.

And these torps still wouldn't make up for the weaknessess of Fed ships's defences. One shot and any Fed ship is dust.

There's also ECM to consider, once the Imperials start pumping out that high-powered jamming, those TT's will be hard-pressed to hit anything.

Of course, there's nothing to back up the claim that transphasic torpedoes can deliver such force.

[Anarchist Bunny]

Ah another of Sov's fallacies, he doesn't understand difference in power.

He used an example of plasma weaponry in trek as if it would be the same as a TL, I explain to him that light coming from his monitor and fire were both plasma(I think), but that doesn't mean you can through yourself in a fire cause light doesn't hurt you.

Same thing with this, one TT can distroy a cube in one hit and so can one TL so they are of equall power. He did it in the S8472 thread as well, the analogy of a .1g rock and 1000 kg rock droping on his head was used, it didn't work.

So, I say to you Sov, come back when your old enought to masturbate.

[beyond hope]

On the bright side, we could probably convince him that a bullet-proof vest makes you "immune" to bullets and then just laugh in amazement as he stands in front of one of the Iowa's cannons, confident that the shell will bounce right off because it's just a big bullet...

[starfury]

Even assuming that transphasic torpedoes deliver the same amount of power as a TL shot, so what?

ISD's are designed to take a ton of turbolaser blasts, even heavy HTL's. They could still withstand multiple spreads of torps.

And these torps still wouldn't make up for the weaknessess of Fed ships's defences. One shot and any Fed ship is dust.

There's also ECM to consider, once the Imperials start pumping out that high-powered jamming, those TT's will be hard-pressed to hit anything.

Of course, there's nothing to back up the claim that transphasic torpedoes can deliver such force

or that it is much easier for turbolaser cannons to recharge then it is to stock up enough torpedos, which does take large amounts of space. creating a big logistical problem.

[Ender]

To make Crown happy, I consolidated it all into one big post

The rebels weren't stronger than believed, they were luckier. You did catch the part where there was an entire legion of Stormtroopers on Endor, right? The only thing that saved the rebellion's asses on the ground there was the totally unexpected intervention of the Ewoks on their behalf. And yes, of course the Empire knew the Ewoks were there: did you stop and think that if the Ewoks had at any time threatened the security of that installation, that the Empire would have summarily exterminated them? Could it be, in fact, that the shock of the garrison to the Ewoks' appearance was that they had previously given the Empire no trouble at all?

Thanks for agreeing with me, the entire point I was trying to make is the Empire was stupid, and underestimated the power or LUCK of the Rebels.

Powr, you don't have. luck, you need to prove you will have. Show those, then we'll talk.

Once again your memory of the events seems to be lacking. I remember the Death Star blowing up enemy ships quite handily using the superlaser. Plus, If you pay some attention when the starfighter attack on the main reactor stars, you'll see turbolaser turrets firing on the fighters as they make their run. So much for that...

So the Death Star killed two ships and shot at fighters, that already out maneuver the towers. Big deal, I was talking about the fact that the heavy Turbolasers were built to destroy attacking Capital Ships. Which they did not, except for the two.[/quote]Show that, outside the ones guarding the Emperors tower, the TLs were active.

The shield seemed to be holding off the rebels very well until events down on the moon's surface took a bizarre turn.

Stupidity[/quote]The Americans in Mogadishu lost even though they had superior gear and tactcs as well. Does this mean they were stupid? They lost due to sheer numbers and the Rebel commandos. Quantity is it's own form of quality dipshit.

Maybe they were close to the Death Star to establish a defensive perimeter after the shield went down?

Wow, that worked very well [/quote]Lets see, communication went dosn, chain odf command went to hell, and they made a retreat. Yes, real fucking stupid.

That dumb, overconfident Emperor, using the Dark Side to direct the actions of his officers like that. Hmmm... except it worked. The Rebellion was barely surviving: Endor was planned as the last battle to crush them for good. If not for some amazing luck on the part of the Rebels, it would have worked.

Um, that did not work, the Emperor was so full of himself, he did not know of Vaders turn of emotion. Remember Vader always planned to overthrough the Emperor, that is why Vader told Luke, "We Can Rule The Galaxy As Father And Son!"[/quote]He was well aware of it, hence was Mara was sent to kill Luke. But when that failed, he went with his vision of the future. If you see 1000000 possibilities where you come out on top, and 1 where you are betrayed, You tend to play the odds that you will be safe.

You are fucking stupid. Look at you own pic that you consider a legitimate argument: There more then one torp there.

Two torpedoes destroyed the first cube, the second cube was destroyed by a SINGLE TORPEDO. The Queen had made the third ship retreat.[/quote] Still want to see you address the point that vaporization is a huge difference from breaking apart.

Funny how they don't put them into mass production for Nemesis then, isn't it? After all, if they had the capability to mass produce and install those suckers, why wouldn't the flagship be the first to get them, particularily when we already know it just got some big modifications.

The Dominion War is over, there is no need, but when they encounter the NR and see the Technology they have, and the Technology the Empire will have, then the only way they can survive an joined attack is to start fitting the ships with Transphasic Torpedoes. Not to mention the movie would be 5 minutes long if the Enterprise could destroy a Enemy ship in one hit.[/quote]There was no immediate need for the Quantum torpedo but they built that. There was no immediate need for the Type 6, but the built that. Both were built with the long term look. Why would that not be the same here?

The Coaxial Warp core is nothing similar to hyperdrive, which crosses dimensions to work and

The Coaxial Warp core creates a fold in the fabric of space, allowing a ship to fly at speed 100 times faster that Warp. If they do not work the same way, the results are the same.[/quote]But the results are not the same. Hyperdrive is still far faster.

The only reason the Empire lost was because Vader killed the Emperor. If the Death Star had been destroyed but the Empire had still been alive, there's little doubt he would have escaped. The loss of the DS2 itself was a drop in the ocean, and was simply a massive trap to lure the Rebels. The Emperor's greatest mistake was in overestimating the hold of the Dark Side on Anakin Skywalker.

Wow, they failed too. Give it up, no matter how pathetic you see the Rebellion, in the End the Empire fell.[/quote]Yes, through a million to one chance that the Federation will not have.

Well, you asume this will happen to a Borg ship by a single bolt from an ISD. But this is only specuation, built up by a Star Wars fan using Mathmatical Calculations, but like you said, "I saw it on Voyager" and in your own terminology, this makes it Canon. So if we see the Borg ship get hit bt a Transphasic Torpedo and explode, and I will atempt to agree with this websites technical data, then you must also agree that the Transphasic Torpdo will be equal to a Turbolaser.

No dumbass.

A single TL vaporizes a cube.

Multiple TTs blow it into large pieces.

Huge difference in energy there.

There is no way it could vaporize it, the ship is hollow, that meens the bolt would tear through its armor (if you even added that to the ecuation) and go through the other side, probably tearing the ship in two. But then again, if 80 % of a cube is bestroyed, the ship can still operate at 100 % efficiancy.

1) You basic cube lacks armor. Even the tac cube only has a few token pieces of it.
2) The beam would not go straight through. It is not a pure laser, there is a rather large plasma component attached. That woule vape the cube.
3) It's called transfer of energy dumbass. Alot of power will still be carried out to the rest of the cube even if it were a pure laser.

And the cubes in FC and Scorpion weren't looking 100% effiency.

The ships in FC and Scorpion were not blown into chucks that could work in that manner, they were blown 100 % into Pieces

A TL would have a stronger effect.

No way it can still function at 100% efficiency... If it could, then whats the point of all the extra space?

Capture and assimilate new ships...[/quote]Lets see some canon proof of that.

They don't have Coaxial warp cores dumbass.

They have seen the Technology, they have a therory of how it works, NP Engineers would give them hand.[/quote]Your assumption of aid from the outside falls under the same category as tech sharing and is invalid.

Okay. How about this: Turbolasers fitted on an Imperial Stardestroyer will make the very powerful. Understand?

How? TLs are weapons, not generators, They have nothing to do with powering the ship fuckface.

So let's assume, for the moment, that a transphasic torpedo has the damaging power of a turbolaser. A ISD has hundreds of TLs. And the Empire has thousands of ISDs. Mounting two torpedo launchers roughly equivalent to a turbolaser on a handful of ships will do next to nothing.

The plot is based off of SD.NET's plot, and we know this takes place decades after Endor, so they DO NOT HAVE 1000s OF SHIPS< ONLY A HANDFUL OF ABOUT 100 OR MORE, PLUS THE ONES CONSTRUCTED IN THE GAMMA QUADRENT.[/quote]SD.Nets plot involves a reborn Empire some 25 years later with millions of ships you waste of sperm.

YOU FUCKING TWISTED THE PLOT YOU LITTLE LIAR!

What? He never finished it, he only created Calculations for the Old Empire.[/quote]Yes he did it's the basis for his fanfic you retard.

I mean the TL is more than enough destroy it...why didn't it just go on and make a clean hole?

If you will see the Bolt is bigger than the Asteroid, and the ISD has a lot of power to fire that one shot.

So 10 meters is bigger then 40 metes now? Live and learn. And I want you to show that they expended alot of their power destroying that asteroid. Really, I do. You know, since TLs have their own backup capacitor reactors, the main reactor is a minimum 10x the strength of an acclamator reactor, and they have 2 other large ones, 4 minor ones, and a shitload of fusion reactors. So I want to see how one LTL shot is more then a drop in the bucket.

And prove Borg Boxs have any armour.

Duh, Borg ships assimilate other ships, add technology to their hull, as seen in the first encounter with a Cube, they can heal like an animal as well.[/quote]That has absoultly zero to do with armor

Not to mention Borg TACTICAL CUBES.

Which have a few chunks of armor with large gaps between them.
http://members.fortunecity.de/neutralzo ... Cube03.jpg
Some of those gaps are almost the size of an ISD.

I talking about when they were damaged.

They were fighting back, and they were reparing a damaged section, Picard could only hear them and know where to hit.

Well, you ignored the rest of his points, but as for this one, your response makes no sense. Given that the borg repair via replication of nanites that make up the ship, I would love to know how hitting that would make it explode unless they had hita weakspot.

[Master of Ossus]

First of all, Sovereign, I've known for some time that you were a moron, but this is your worst thread, yet. Let's look at it, shall we?

I did not give up on Species 8472, its just that the topic is going off cource, so I have created this one...

In other words, you ran away because people were debating facets of the topic that you knew nothing about.

STAR WARS TACTICS

During the ROTJ, Vader and the Emperor knew of the Rebels landing on Endor, they did nothing, considering them to be, "No Matter" This was a big mistake, they were stronger than to be believed. I am sure the Empire would have known about Ewoks while building the Generator?

So? They underestimated the Ewoks, much like the UFP underestimated the Breen ships, the Chintoka ODP's, and the Klingons underestimated the Cardassians, who in turn underestimated the Bajorans. They did do something about it, in that they dispatched a legion of elite forces to Endor. They could not have predicted what was going to happen, because they did not have a full understanding of the forces that their enemies would bring to bear. Moreover, the Empire almost certainly found it enormously unlikely that the Rebels would even manage to enlist Ewok assistance. They probably did not even consider the possibility, much like the Dominion did not think that the Prophets would step in to stop their invasion of the AQ.

The Death Star was a "fully operational battle station" but she never did fire any of her weapons, except for her superlaser, which was only seen firing once. If she was strong enough to take on an attacking Capital Fleet, then why didnt she?

They were out of range of her weapons? Moreover, DSII DID fire its weapons. If you watch the film, the rebel fighters had to maneuver through considerable fire while skimming the DSII's surface. Finally, DSII was afraid that its weapons would damage its own ships ("We'll last longer than we will against that Death Star"). Are you purposely disregarding aspects of the film, or are you actually that ignorant?

They relyed on the planets shield generator too much, the stations built in generator should have been one of the first things completed. But of course they did cunderstamate the Rebels.

Erm... okay. If you remember, the shield was at least partially operational. When Vader's shuttle moved in to dock with the DS, it had to clear its approach with crew members on the Death Star, indicating that parts of the DS were shielded. That the Rebels were able to figure out a way to bipass these partial shields was unfortunate, and surprising, but no astonishing once the planetary deflector shield had been disabled.

The Super Star Destroyer was too close to such a big station. They were so stupid, they had little time to activate a secondary bridge before gravity got the best of them.

You are so stupid for not understanding what was going on. Once the Executor recognized that the Rebel fleet was moving to engage it, it should have moved to the safest possible location--around the DS, within easy range of DS's weapons, so as to be able to protect it. You are stupid for not recognizing that this was the correct tactic, even if it did not work out properly. Moreover, what does this have to do with anything?

As stated in the Thrawn Trilogy, the Emperor had mental control over the Empire. One reason they were so strong. When he died the remaining imperial forces did not know what to do. This is all due to the Emperors overconfidence, and inability to read Vaders mind.

So you're faulting the Emperor for missing one person out of a fleet that included hundreds of millions of personnel? Are you saying that every single member of Star Fleet is an idiot because they cannot read some people's minds?

I think in a Star Trek/Star Wars conflict would result in this way...

Subjective argument in the place of objective fact. What evidence do you have that this would occur?

1. The feds meet Empire, empire fascinated by humans FROM ANOTHER GALAXY,

Why would they be fascinated? The NR and the Empire paid little attention to the Ssi-Ruuk and the YV just because they were extra-galactic. Moreover, there are billions and probably trillions of humans living in the SW Galaxy. You flatter yourself to think that a group little more developed than us would fascinate such an enormous Empire.

2. Technology exchange

Why wouldn't the Empire just take the technology that they wanted (very little)? Why would they have to give anything to get something?

3. Empire bullys alien member of Federation.

Let me get this straight: the big bully Empire shows up, and decides to bully aliens by TRADING TECHNOLOGY WITH A GROUP THAT REPRESENTS THEM? WTF are you thinking?

4. Federation does not like this, Empire attacks and crushes them.

Again, WHY would it happen this way? Why wouldn't the Empire simply invade and conquer the UFP? Remember that the UFP does not just have technology for the Empire. It's primarily important because of the resources that it would provide the Empire with.

5. Federation/Klingon/Romulan/Cardassian/Gorn/Tholian/Kelvan/ Alliance goes into hiding, prepairing for War

Ah, yes, let's magically make a massive alliance (some of which has already been crushed) that wants to fight the Empire, even though most of them would doubtless side with the Empire in the hopes of gaining future considerations.

6. The Rebels discover the new Galaxy when the Empire sends the Death Star to it.

Beautiful, let's move directly from step one and assume that the Empire left the single most important place in the ST Galaxy completely and totally unguarded for the mythical and massive alliance to attack. Let's further assume that even the utterly demolished alliance still has the resources to discover and chart this area.

7. Rebels make contact with Alpha Quadrent Alliance.

Perfect, let's get the Rebels involved. Basically, you have a large group of aliens allied with the UFP (many of whom hate each other), and now you bring another large group into this.

8. technology exchange once again.
9. War Begines...

And guess what... the UFP and its allies are STILL CRUSHED. The only AQ resource that would even remotely interest the Rebels is their manpower. With the reduction of the UFP to almost nothing, there is very little left in the way of power for the alliance against the Empire.

[The Yosemite Bear]

You ever notice that the stated enviourment of the cube 98*f, very wet, is like the worst possible condition for electronics, great conditions for Bacteria, so does this mean that the borg Nanoprobes need simular enviornmetn to bacteria. Also the pale condition of the borg might indicate that they may be unable to handle UV light radation.

[Master of Ossus]

You ever notice that the stated enviourment of the cube 98*f, very wet, is like the worst possible condition for electronics, great conditions for Bacteria, so does this mean that the borg Nanoprobes need simular enviornmetn to bacteria. Also the pale condition of the borg might indicate that they may be unable to handle UV light radation.

They don't NEED conditions like that, just as bacteria usually do not. Moreover, the nanoprobes might benefit from a certain set of conditions even if they do not require them.

[Darth Servo]

I think this is a funny picture, you see the "Big Bad Wolf" representing the "Big Bad Empire" and the little rabbit resembling the Federation, but the bottom of the pic shows the Worf eaten and the Rabbit alive and well.

Nice Choice!

And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

Ok then, lets continue with this plot...
<snip large amounts of Bullshit that assumes everything will work perfectly for Sovereign's side>

The fact that you need to include the New Republic in you scenario is proof that you recognise that the Empire by itself would Steamroll everyone in the Trek Universe.

Concession accepted.

You claim that a Turbo Laser would destroy a Borg ship in one shot, so if Transphasic Torpedoes can do the same, they must be equal in strength, or at least somewhere in the energy range.

A LIGHT turbo laser would destroy a cube in one shot. One of Slave-1's seimic charges would destroy a cube with one shot.
The Transphasic Torpedos did NOT destroy the cube through sheer energy output. They were able to penetrate the cube and explode on the inside causing the cube's reactor(s) to explode resulting in the destruction of the cube.

The Coaxial Warp Core runs in pretty much the same way as a Hyperdrive system.The Coaxial Warp core creates a fold in the fabric of space, allowing a ship to fly at speed 100 times faster that Warp. If they do not work the same way, the results are the same.

Two words: PROVE IT
a) Where did you get the information that "coaxial warp" in 100 times faster than regular warp.
b) Even if true, the fastest regular warp has been is 9000 times the speed of light. 100 times that is 900,000 (9 hundred thousand) times the speed of light. Too bad for you hyperdrive can do 50,000,000 (50 million) times the speed of light

This entire plot is based around that of SD.NET, so in a way, I am playing by the correct rules layed down by Mr. Wong.

No it isn't. In "Mr. Wong's plot, the New Republic has been destroyed. Read the fanfic.

Well, you asume this will happen to a Borg ship by a single bolt from an ISD. But this is only specuation, built up by a Star Wars fan using Mathmatical Calculations, but like you said, "I saw it on Voyager" and in your own terminology, this makes it Canon. So if we see the Borg ship get hit bt a Transphasic Torpedo and explode, and I will atempt to agree with this websites technical data, then you must also agree that the Transphasic Torpdo will be equal to a Turbolaser. Two torpedoes destroyed the first cube, the second cube was destroyed by a SINGLE TORPEDO. The Queen had made the third ship retreat.

No, we need NOT agree that a Transphasic Torpedo equals a lightTurbo Laser. The TL has enough power to destroy the cube through brute force. The Torp merely punches through the armor (no big deal there since there is no armor) and explodes inside. The cubes reactors then explode destroying the cube, proven by the delay between Torp explosion and cube destruction.

Thanks for agreeing with me, the entire point I was trying to make is the Empire was stupid, and underestimated the power or LUCK of the Rebels.

The Emperor made a mistake. Imperfection does NOT mean stupidity. Stupidity is designing reactors that act like bombs (like Federation Warp cores)

So the Death Star killed two ships and shot at fighters, that already out maneuver the towers. Big deal, I was talking about the fact that the heavy Turbolasers were built to destroy attacking Capital Ships. Which they did not, except for the two.

The Emperor wanted to prolong the rebels destruction to make Luke more angry to turn him to the dark side. What part of this did you miss? It was only the entire plot of "The Empire Strikes Back."

The shield seemed to be holding off the rebels very well until events down on the moon's surface took a bizarre turn.

Stupidity

No, a miscalculation. See above.

Um, that did not work, the Emperor was so full of himself, he did not know of Vaders turn of emotion. Remember Vader always planned to overthrough the Emperor, that is why Vader told Luke, "We Can Rule The Galaxy As Father And Son!"

Tempting Luke with power does NOT mean disloyalty to the Emperor.
"I must obey my master" Vader to Luke on Endor.

then the only way they can survive an joined attack is to start fitting the ships with Transphasic Torpedoes.

Whose actual firepower has NOT been established.

Wow, they failed too. Give it up, no matter how pathetic you see the Rebellion, in the End the Empire fell.

Only because Luke was able to coax dad back to the good side. Your federation doesn't stand a chance.

There is no way it could vaporize it, the ship is hollow, that meens the bolt would tear through its armor (if you even added that to the ecuation) and go through the other side, probably tearing the ship in two. But then again, if 80 % of a cube is bestroyed, the ship can still operate at 100 % efficiancy.

Once again you demonstrate your TOTAL IGNORANCE of thermodynamics. When the turbolaser bolt hits the cube, the bolt detonates and all its energy is released in the immediate proximaty of the cube. That released energy is sufficient to vaporise the entire cube.
By the way, ST first contact absolutely destroys your claim that cubes can function with most if it destroyed. The cube in First Contact had FAR LESS THAN 10% damage but it still blew up.

The ships in FC and Scorpion were not blown into chucks that could work in that manner, they were blown 100 % into Pieces

But the cube in FC only had a small hole blown in it by Federation forces, yet it still blew up didn't it.

What? He never finished it, he only created Calculations for the Old Empire.

Bullshit. Read the fanfic

If you will see the Bolt is bigger than the Asteroid, and the ISD has a lot of power to fire that one shot.

More Bullshit. The bolt is far SMALLER than the Asteroid in TESB.

Duh, Borg ships assimilate other ships, add technology to their hull,
They add SOME tech to their ships. But repeated incidents have shown us that armor is NOT one of them.

as seen in the first encounter with a Cube, they can heal like an animal as well.

And was capable of doing NOTHING ELSE during most of the repair time. The Picard was able to consult Guinan, hold meetings with the command staff, decide upon a course of action and send an away team to investigate the cube, and all this time, the cube just SAT THERE. An ISD would continue to fire until the cube was obliterated.

Not to mention Borg TACTICAL CUBES.

The two cubes destroyed by Transphasic Torpedos were NOT Tactical Cubes. TACTICAL CUBES ARE EXTREMELY RARE.

They were fighting back, and they were reparing a damaged section, Picard could only hear them and know where to hit.

Prove that they were repairing damage. Based on the Q-who precenedt, if they were repairing damage, they would be just sitting there not doing anything.

Sorry for such a long post. So much stupidity, so little time.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Let's repeat this to Sovereign:



A 9mm round and a 16" round with both kill you! They have different destructive levels! Just because 2 things can do the same thing doesn't mean they're equal!

[Darth Servo]

Let's repeat this to Sovereign:

A 9mm round and a 16" round with both kill you! They have different destructive levels! Just because 2 things can do the same thing doesn't mean they're equal!

He doesn't understand numbers. He thinks 5 megawatts will threaten the Empire.

[Darth Servo]

And why hasn't he been given his VI title yet?

[beyond hope]

Let's try the analogy another way and see if it works. You can knock down a building with demolition charges. You can also knock down that building by detonating a nuclear weapon right on it's roof. In either case the building is flattened when you're through: does that make the demolition charges the same power as the nuke?

[Vympel]

FFS someone give this ignormaus a Village Idiot title.

[Lord Pounder]

Village Idiot is too kind, I suggest the "Green gilled cock master" title.