Sledgehammers and Medieval Plate Armor

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Sledgehammers and Medieval Plate Armor

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I was just wondering. How effective would a modern steal headed sledgehammer be against someone Medieval Plate Armor?

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Welcome to the wonderful idea behind a MACE. :roll:
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Aye, we had a thread on hammers versus plate mail a while back.

Of course, sledgehammers are a bit more unwieldy than warhammers, since they sacrifice balance for added momentum, but that means they would obviously cause more damage when they actually hit (just make sure the other guy doesn't kill you first).
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Let me break things down, so everyone gets the idea this time (hopefully).

Weight on end of stick = Mass Weapon. (axe, mace, halberd, hammer, sledgehammer, morning star, etc, ad naus.)

Mass Weapon v/s PlateMail= Very Large Dents. (and punctures, if bladed)

Very Large Dents = Serious Injuries to person inside. (broken bones, internal trauma/bleeding, etc)

So, class, do we understand now? Mass Weapon > Plate mail.
Which is WHY mass weapon gained in popularity during that period of warfare!

New topic, Please?!
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LadyTevar wrote:Let me break things down, so everyone gets the idea this time (hopefully).

Weight on end of stick = Mass Weapon. (axe, mace, halberd, hammer, sledgehammer, morning star, etc, ad naus.)

Mass Weapon v/s PlateMail= Very Large Dents. (and punctures, if bladed)

Very Large Dents = Serious Injuries to person inside. (broken bones, internal trauma/bleeding, etc)

So, class, do we understand now? Mass Weapon > Plate mail.
Which is WHY mass weapon gained in popularity during that period of warfare!

New topic, Please?!
Doubtless the question will be raised again at some point. ;)
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we talked about that in this thread.
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Lord Zentei wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
New topic, Please?!
Doubtless the question will be raised again at some point. ;)
And I'll be wanting to find a Mass Weapon and take it to some skulls. It's been beaten to death the last few months.
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LadyTevar wrote:Let me break things down, so everyone gets the idea this time (hopefully).

Weight on end of stick = Mass Weapon. (axe, mace, halberd, hammer, sledgehammer, morning star, etc, ad naus.)

Mass Weapon v/s PlateMail= Very Large Dents. (and punctures, if bladed)

Very Large Dents = Serious Injuries to person inside. (broken bones, internal trauma/bleeding, etc)

So, class, do we understand now? Mass Weapon > Plate mail.
Which is WHY mass weapon gained in popularity during that period of warfare!

New topic, Please?!

Very well put, and if he had a clapping emoticon I would add a few in.

Any bets as to when the subject comes back up? I say within 3 weeks
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LadyTevar wrote:
Lord Zentei wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
New topic, Please?!
Doubtless the question will be raised again at some point. ;)
And I'll be wanting to find a Mass Weapon and take it to some skulls. It's been beaten to death the last few months.
At least you have a very graphically appropriate avatar... :lol:

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Edi wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
Lord Zentei wrote: Doubtless the question will be raised again at some point. ;)
And I'll be wanting to find a Mass Weapon and take it to some skulls. It's been beaten to death the last few months.
At least you have a very graphically appropriate avatar... :lol:

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LadyTevar wrote:
Lord Zentei wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:New topic, Please?!
Doubtless the question will be raised again at some point. ;)
And I'll be wanting to find a Mass Weapon and take it to some skulls. It's been beaten to death the last few months.
Indeed. Not that this has stopped anyone before. :lol:
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Oh for fuck's sake, sledgehammers are for breaking up concrete. How can anyone not immediately realize they'll crush a thin sheet of steel?
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Ah Zor...not ever grasping that a mace can do his job, that more force upon a specific point is going to do a shitload more.

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