Effective weaponrange

Perry Rhodan · Post by **Perry Rhodan** » 2006-03-17 05:39am

What is the eefective weapon range of ISD turbolasers??
I tried to find it onm the main site but couldnt find it

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2006-03-17 05:54am

Perry Rhodan wrote:What is the eefective weapon range of ISD turbolasers??
I tried to find it onm the main site but couldnt find it

1 Plot device.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2006-03-17 06:45am

I suggest you consider the distance that the Executor and escorts were from the Rebel fleet in ROTJ when "we're in attack position now" was announced. Actually estimating that distance I leave to you.

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2006-03-17 06:51am

Alan Bolte wrote:I suggest you consider the distance that the Executor and escorts were from the Rebel fleet in ROTJ when "we're in attack position now" was announced. Actually estimating that distance I leave to you.

I suggest you don't. Remember, the Imperial squadron had to round the Sanctuary Moon to get in position. No upper range limit can be derived from this.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2006-03-17 07:23am

In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-03-17 07:24am

Solauren wrote:In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours

To expand: In Rebel Stand, a ship(probably not an ISD) firing from the edge of the Coruscant system, hit coruscant.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-03-17 07:42am

The ICS says 10 light seconds for a Venator's HTL. I'd imagine an ISD's would be about the same.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2006-03-17 08:31am

Surlethe wrote:The ICS says 10 light seconds for a Venator's HTL. I'd imagine an ISD's would be about the same.

Actually, the ROTS ICS says that the Venator's HTLs can hit targets at 10 light-minutes using its precise long-range tracking mode. Since the damaging portion of turbolaser bolts moves at c (am I right about this?), I'm guessing this is only against stationary targets, or targets moving in a predictable path.

Solauren wrote:In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours

Are you sure about this?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-03-17 08:33am

Jim Raynor wrote:
Solauren wrote:In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours
Are you sure about this?

Depending on the size of the Coruscant system...possibly.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2006-03-17 08:53am

Ace Pace wrote:
Solauren wrote:In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours
To expand: In Rebel Stand, a ship(probably not an ISD) firing from the edge of the Coruscant system, hit coruscant.

It was a Mon Cal Cruiser. The NR was trying to make the Vong think they had a new super weapon so while Wedge put up a light show over Borelleas(sp?) a Mon Cal Cruiser hyped to the outter edges of the Coruscant system and fired several HTL's at the world ship orbiting Courscant.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-03-17 08:54am

Lord Pounder wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
Solauren wrote:In New Jedi Order, they had ships hitting with Turbolasers at ranges of light hours
To expand: In Rebel Stand, a ship(probably not an ISD) firing from the edge of the Coruscant system, hit coruscant.
It was a Mon Cal Cruiser. The NR was trying to make the Vong think they had a new super weapon so while Wedge put up a light show over Borelleas(sp?) a Mon Cal Cruiser hyped to the outter edges of the Coruscant system and fired several HTL's at the world ship orbiting Courscant.

So it was HTLs... wow, thats nice rang but I remember that damage dropped off due to space dust in the way.

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2006-03-17 10:05am

"Effective range" depends on how you define it. People often compute their own effective range with a rifle based on their ability to hit a fixed target at that distance, but they'd be totally unable to hit moving targets at the same range.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-03-17 10:09am

Jim Raynor wrote:
Surlethe wrote:The ICS says 10 light seconds for a Venator's HTL. I'd imagine an ISD's would be about the same.
Actually, the ROTS ICS says that the Venator's HTLs can hit targets at 10 light-minutes using its precise long-range tracking mode. Since the damaging portion of turbolaser bolts moves at c (am I right about this?), I'm guessing this is only against stationary targets, or targets moving in a predictable path.

My bad. Thanks for the correction.

Doctor Doom · Post by **Doctor Doom** » 2006-03-17 11:40am

Technically, the effective range of any Star Wars weapon depends on how manueverable the target is and if they know they are being fired out. Turbolasers can hit things that are light hours away (as can be seen in the NJO), but at that range most ships will see they are under attack and manuever out of the way.

Count Dooku · Post by **Count Dooku** » 2006-03-17 08:13pm

Blasters might have an effective yeild at several light minutes, but against a ship, or any moving object where you can't predict it's course, you have to shave the effective distance down to a few light seconds.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-03-17 08:23pm

Count Dooku wrote:Blasters might have an effective yeild at several light minutes, but against a ship, or any moving object where you can't predict it's course, you have to shave the effective distance down to a few light seconds.

Actually, blasters don't, because they're infantry/fighter-level weapons (at best). And it's not yield, it's range.

Cykeisme · Post by **Cykeisme** » 2006-03-17 08:49pm

I think the 10 light-minutes quote pretty much gives the information we need, coupled with the logical limitations of a target that is making non-predictable evasive maneuvers.

Btw, just food for thought.. we aren't sure about the exact size of the Coruscant system since we don't know how many planets there are beyond Coruscant, and their distance from their star.

Batman wrote:
Count Dooku wrote:Blasters might have an effective yeild at several light minutes, but against a ship, or any moving object where you can't predict it's course, you have to shave the effective distance down to a few light seconds.
Actually, blasters don't, because they're infantry/fighter-level weapons (at best). And it's not yield, it's range.

He's probably grouping all the Star Wars directed-energy weapons that use those same working principles under the general term "blaster", including turbolasers. Using the word "blaster" like the word "gun", if you will. Probably not accurate, but understood.
When he said yield, he probably meant it, too. He's saying that despite beam attenuation and diffusion, the beam/bolt still carries enough energy to damage its intended targets.. but that targeting considerations reduce effective distance.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-03-17 08:56pm

I'd argue that DEW have an effective yield at any range (it'll just not be worth mentioning) but I see here you're coming from, Cyke.
And the NJO quite clearly depicts 'effective' lighthour ranges for TLs despite beam disspation.

apocolypse · Post by **apocolypse** » 2006-03-17 09:09pm

Cykeisme wrote:I think the 10 light-minutes quote pretty much gives the information we need, coupled with the logical limitations of a target that is making non-predictable evasive maneuvers.

Btw, just food for thought.. we aren't sure about the exact size of the Coruscant system since we don't know how many planets there are beyond Coruscant, and their distance from their star.

We do have some data though. Coruscant and the Core Worlds identifies Coruscant as having a year equal to 368 standard days, and there are several planetary and stellar bodies behind it. After Coruscant is Muscave then Stentat (both gas giants), Improcco (ice ball with a moon of its own), The Covey (asteroid field), Nabatu (barren rock), Ulabos (frozen rock) and finally Obo Rin (comet cluster). That's not including the five planets before Coruscant. Now, I will give you that there are no distances to the system star given, but it does appear that the Coruscant system has quite a bit in it.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-03-17 09:18pm

Plus our own solar system is already 14 lighthours across only including Pluto (nevermind that 10th planet or the Kuiper Belt).

Count Dooku · Post by **Count Dooku** » 2006-03-18 12:46pm

Cykeisme wrote:He's probably grouping all the Star Wars directed-energy weapons that use those same working principles under the general term "blaster", including turbolasers. Using the word "blaster" like the word "gun", if you will. Probably not accurate, but understood.
When he said yield, he probably meant it, too. He's saying that despite beam attenuation and diffusion, the beam/bolt still carries enough energy to damage its intended targets.. but that targeting considerations reduce effective distance.

^^^This guy got it right.

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