- The crew didn't quantify the level of gravity, all that was indicated was that it was a navigational riskTheDarkling wrote:Vympel: They should be inconsequential yet they aren't because we have Data's sensor readings that say otherwise, you will now claim that Data's an idiot and thats where we part ways because I subscribe to the standard warsie clause of "if all else fails discredit the charcater and move on".
- There is no need to say that a quite ordinary looking asteroid was super dense which would produce sufficiently strong gravity for its size to result in gigaton calcs. If it were ultra dense, the asteroid would
a- be compacted into a roughly spherical shape, not a potato
b- not be a craggy rock formation that is HOLLOW in parts
As Patrick Degan pointed out:
is the Enterprise being pulled into a collision with the asteroid? Does it pull the ship into crashing into the cavern walls during the ship's passage to the wreckage of the Pegasus? In both cases, no. The ship hovers at rest within the cavern; a condition which would be impossible were the asteroid's mass exerting undue gravitational influence. The asteroid is not composed of ultradense materials (which would tend also to pull its material into a compact ball from extraordinary specific gravity) but ordinary rock. Your claims have no basis in fact.
See above.The point however isn't whether it was super dense but if that was the sensor readings they were getting because Riker would base his recomendation off the sensor readings therefore Riker bases his head calcs off the readings which indicate super density, unless you are about to tell me Data was lying then it doesnt matter if the asteroid was super dense only that they believed it to be so.
TDiC- dealt with time and againThere are also incidents where we have ships doing far more damage (TDiC, Skin of Evil (before you say the explosion was all due to fthe shuttle - fine use the antimatter stores from two or three shuttles and your sorted), other asteroid incidents and so on), why not simply use the ships phasers? which are often rated in the MT (even if phasers alone couldnt destroy the asteroid since they are more powerful than torps they should have still seen use).
Skin of Evil- I saw that old episode a few months ago, how long do the explosions last, what do they look like, etc. Screen caps, and your calcs, would be good.
Do they say in Pegasus that they can't?Also the fact that the Enterprise acant make more torps seems very odd - Voyager did it and all it really entails is Antimatter (which they have) and a torp case + systems (we know they have these on hand from other episodes such as Pen pals and they can be replicated as we know from Voyager (how else did they get them?).
If so, then an alternate theory would have to be proposed, not that the asteroid was super dense.I do not still propose it I simlpy say that the asteroid was odd and that the calcs it gives us are also odd (why aren't they still using Nukes which would give them better yields? although the device would need to be somewhat larger), I'm not arguing for the GT yields here I'm just questioning the KT yields.
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