Sakura Kinomoto vs. The Axis

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-12-09 03:52pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Yogi wrote: They only speak Japanese though, so they should keep their mouths shut.
Damn right. or else they get wasted by the French Resistance for being
Axis Allies...

That depends on how many people in the Frence Resistance are familiar with the Japanese language.

And even then, they are unlikely to think a pair of ten-year-olds are spies. They might raise a little suspicion, most of which would go away when nazi troops start finding themselves unarmed, their war machines missing.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 04:19pm

All in all unless she can magically realter reality...the Axis will win the war.

She either starts destroying the Axis army or all she is a decent weapon...not the end all be all cure for WW2.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-09 04:22pm

As I said, her main weapon is psychological warfare. Imagine you're a German soldier in France. All of a sudden noonday turns into pitch black night and stays that way for days. Black rose petals start raining down at various times, and tanks, chunks of buildings, and various weapons will occasionally vanish in a flash.

Morale go WAAAYYY down.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 04:28pm

So given that they are on the cusp of victory(and for some reason Stalin won't immediatley grab for victory) a little girl psyching out groups of soliders is nothing...is she killing them, is she stopping production on a national scale?

She does here there stuff...but how does any of this affect them globally.

Literally one , five, ten incidents is not enough to stem the tide of winning war, unless it actually produces numbers on the scale of thousands of casulaties.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-12-09 04:56pm

Ghost Rider wrote:All in all unless she can magically realter reality...the Axis will win the war.

She either starts destroying the Axis army or all she is a decent weapon...not the end all be all cure for WW2.

That's the thing. She can alter reality with her magic.

Using the Light, Dark, Windy, Thunder, Watery, Earthy, Big, Little, Wood, Mirror, Illusion, Erase and Create, she can do pretty much anything she wants.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 04:59pm

And?

She's going to either only have it done to the Axis soldiers and kill Axis soldiers...or it happens to both sides and the Allies will view her as great a threat and try to kill her as well or she does minor things and the Axis view her as athreat to be dealt with when they have won the war.

She either kills the Axis by the thousands or it's worth squat what she does...

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-12-09 05:09pm

Ghost Rider wrote:And?

She's going to either only have it done to the Axis soldiers and kill Axis soldiers...or it happens to both sides and the Allies will view her as great a threat and try to kill her as well or she does minor things and the Axis view her as athreat to be dealt with when they have won the war.

Deal with who? The first thing Sakura's going to do is make sure no one knows she did anything. Every time she had to capture a card in public, her first act was to use the Sleep Card to put everyone in the area down, then she went for it.

Nobody's going to know she does anything.

She either kills the Axis by the thousands or it's worth squat what she does...

Or she can hit factories, ruining their machinery, and making it difficult for the Axis to continue fighting. Sakura has the power to put an entire town, at least, to sleep. What happens when the town/base wakes up to find that every machine in their factories has vanished, or the building is crushed by a freak massive overgrowth of vines?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 05:12pm

So all this argument is because she can do this...the Axis will lie down and take it even though she isn't killing any of them...and they took down the largest offensive the Allies mustered.

Literallly that's so far what I've seen...she'll do this and this and this and this...and of course the Axis will just let her...regardless of that is she still vulnerable to bullets(just asking), or is she now a demi god to stop the evil Hitler?

I mean if this how far it has to go this is akin to Q entering the war.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-12-09 05:15pm

They don't know it's her doing it. Obviously, if she gets spotted and doesn't have time to prepare, she'll get killed.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 05:18pm

Thank you...that's really what I wanted to be more or less said.

With that...does someone really think she'll truly turn the tide in her clandestine activites?

I mean apparently in this scenario the Axis has all but destroyed the Allies...and forced them to play a defensive role...does she have enough poewr to destroy enough people and machinery to have an overall effect.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-09 05:19pm

She may cause some crazy shit to happen, but, in the end, they all die when you run a V2 rocket through them.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-12-09 05:20pm

But the problem is in spotting her. The closest waring anyone is going to get is if they happen to spot a pair of 10-year-old girls, and maybe a teenager, speaking japanese. Then you have only until she decides it's time to pull out the Sleep Card. After that, it's all over.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-09 05:22pm

SAMAS wrote:But the problem is in spotting her. The closest waring anyone is going to get is if they happen to spot a pair of 10-year-old girls, and maybe a teenager, speaking japanese. Then you have only until she decides it's time to pull out the Sleep Card. After that, it's all over.

Fucking moron. The DAS REICH Division which was stationed in France
quite simply will KILL every civilian including the bitch when this shit
happens to them....no civilians, no problem.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-09 05:22pm

Ah jumping to that she's never been spotted before after her first usage of power by anyone...yay for jumping to conclusions

Still have not answered would her clandestine activities stop the Axis movement?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-09 05:25pm

Right. When everyone who someone falls asleep notices that at least on person spotted a brown-haired, Asian-looking girl, the Gestapo will be knocking on some doors. Last I checked, there weren't that many 10-year-old, brown-haired, Asian-looking girls in 1940's France.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2002-12-09 05:41pm

This is stupid. Pitting anime groups against real groups is always stupid, because 90% of anime does not even approach any sort of realism in any way, shape, or form. The writers essentially complete the phrase "Wouldn't it be cool if:" and toss it down to the animators. It doesn't matter how stupid it is, as long as it's 'cool.'

Since this Sakura is apparently nearly omnipotent, she can probably annoy the Reich for some period of time, provided that nobody finds her and shoots her to death. But what the hell is she going to do to bring down the Axis? She can't (or won't) destroy their industry and wipe out their armies.

Crossover_Maniac · Post by **Crossover_Maniac** » 2002-12-09 06:20pm

I have here some info on Sakura if you're interested in it.

Information on the Clow Cards Sakura uses as her weapons.

Kero, her guardian beast

Yue, Sakura's other guardian

And since you seem to hate anime so much, I going to give you a reason for you to hate Card Captor Sakura more than any other: It's the couples.

Pay particular attention to Rika and Terada and a nice pic of the two love birds, Kaho and Eriol and another pretty couple pic, Syaoran and Yukito, and Sakura's parents Fujitaka & Nadesiko.

Crossover_Maniac · Post by **Crossover_Maniac** » 2002-12-09 06:21pm

I'm talking to you MKSheppard.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-09 06:23pm

And since you seem to hate anime so much, I going to give you a reason for you to hate Card Captor Sakura more than any other: It's the couples.

-and with that Cyril strides off into the sunset towards Japan, his fleece jacket rippling dramatically in the breeze, a pair of Beretta 9mms hooked to his belt and an AK-47 in his hand-

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-09 06:24pm

I mean, I enjoy some anime, but that sort of thing is just so asininely absurd, contrived, and unfun to watch...

...well, some people like it, I guess...

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-09 06:32pm

Crossover_Maniac wrote:I'm talking to you MKSheppard.

*pulls out AKSU and sets off for Japland too*

Crossover_Maniac · Post by **Crossover_Maniac** » 2002-12-09 06:39pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Crossover_Maniac wrote:I'm talking to you MKSheppard.
*pulls out AKSU and sets off for Japland too*

What's a matter? Found something you didn't like?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-09 06:40pm

Crossover_Maniac wrote: What's a matter? Found something you didn't like?

*guns down Crossover Maniac in a balletic shower of 7.62x39 Russian
flying from the ejection port of his AKSU*

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-12-09 07:07pm

Cyril wrote:
And since you seem to hate anime so much, I going to give you a reason for you to hate Card Captor Sakura more than any other: It's the couples.
-and with that Cyril strides off into the sunset towards Japan, his fleece jacket rippling dramatically in the breeze, a pair of Beretta 9mms hooked to his belt and an AK-47 in his hand-

Bloody bastard couples.

*slings an M249 and assorted incendiaries over his shoulder and follows Cyril to Japan on a quest to initiate Evil Exterminatus upon the nerdboy geeks who end up with the girls in those dumb fanservice animes*

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-10 12:02am

I think that the value of psychological warfare is being seriously underestimated. If word gets around (and word WILL get around) that something along the lines of the Wrath Of God, Angel of Death, Satan Himself, or The Second Coming is making itself known, screw the Germans, even the Allies will be skitish.

However, I do see the point that Sakura cannot be everywhere at once. She would either have to carefully take out the major installations first, or alternatly just fly straight to Berlin and take out the people in charge.

As for the relationships, I really hate the censorship laws in America, so I'm really not all that disturbed. I just find it amazing how Japanese culture can go from ultra-conservative to extremely liberal in a relatively short period of time.

Then again, most of the relationships in Card Captor Sakura are a combination between homosexuality and pedophilia, so I guess I SHOULD be a bit scared.