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Yeah, it's disturbing, but it was fun screwing with MKSheppard's head. :lol: :wink:
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I don't Japanese culture has turned liberal. It's just they will alway for certain cultural 'releases'. Behavior in anime (perverts lifting up woman's dresses, really, really short sailor fuku, etc) would be frown upon in Japan. Then again, I might be wrong.
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I'm sure that no one actually DOES it (seperate fantasy from reality, remember?) but the fact that it can be shown on TV for children speaks for itself. Most of the done stuff on TV (in both America AND Japan) would be BAD to do in real life.

I guess that would be the problem in America. Our children are probably dumb enough TO imitate it.
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That's not my problem. My problem is that most of it is irritating, empty, childish, and seeing someone's panties for four or five minutes does nothing to move the plot forward.
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MKSheppard wrote:
SAMAS wrote:But the problem is in spotting her. The closest waring anyone is going to get is if they happen to spot a pair of 10-year-old girls, and maybe a teenager, speaking japanese. Then you have only until she decides it's time to pull out the Sleep Card. After that, it's all over.
Fucking moron. The DAS REICH Division which was stationed in France
quite simply will KILL every civilian including the bitch when this shit
happens to them....no civilians, no problem.
With what, their bare hands? They can't do nothing if they have no weapons.

It's exactly what I said eariler. Someone would have to see her, recognize her as a threat, and then do something before her guardians can stop you, or do her thing.

To do that you'll have to:

A: Spot the group(A few faces among hundreds, if not thousands)

B: Recognize them as being Japanese(hard to do, if you've never seen a Japanese person before)

C: Think enough about it to investigate

D: Take their words seriously(anyone who doesn't believe in magic is going to blow her off)

E: Discover them to be a threat to your cause(If a member of the French Resistance finds out about her and her intentions, they're not going to stop her. If anything, they'll help.)

F: Have enough power or ability on hand to get past Sakura's guardians and stop her. A single soldier, even a squad of your beloved Das Reich are going to get curbstomped by Yue and Keroberos the second they try to accost Sakura and Tomoyo. They're her guardians, that's what they do.

Going apeshit on an entire city is only going to cause her to put everyone to sleep, and either start disarming, or even push her to start killing and erasing your troops. Never traumatize the little child with immense powers(Yes, I've been going by the assumption that her morality will cause her to try not to kill anyone, at first at least).


But as said before, it depends on what Sakura does, and how far she can take it. This is a girl who can walk onto a battlefield, and bring the entire battle to a screeching(literally, snoring) halt. It depends on where she does it that determines if she makes a difference.
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HemlockGrey wrote:That's not my problem. My problem is that most of it is irritating, empty, childish, and seeing someone's panties for four or five minutes does nothing to move the plot forward.
Actually, the only series I've seen where a person's panties were shown for five minutes was the first Episode of Blue Seed, where a chracter's skirt gets torn off when being chased by a monster trying to kill her(that's right, just kill. No rape involved). Even then, they didn't call attention to it.

Besisdes, you're supposed to expect a little childishness when a series(like CCS, for example) is made with young children in mind.
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Crossover_Maniac wrote:I have here some info on Sakura if you're interested in it.

Information on the Clow Cards Sakura uses as her weapons.

Kero, her guardian beast

Yue, Sakura's other guardian

And since you seem to hate anime so much, I going to give you a reason for you to hate Card Captor Sakura more than any other: It's the couples.

Pay particular attention to Rika and Terada and a nice pic of the two love birds, Kaho and Eriol and another pretty couple pic, Syaoran and Yukito, and Sakura's parents Fujitaka & Nadesiko.
About Sayoran/Yukito:

Actually, it was expalined in the manga that Sayoran was drawn to Yukito because of the power he held as Yue(The first time they met, Sayoran was spooked, and ran like hell). It was the same with Sakura and Miss Kaho.

But eventually, Sayoran hooks up with Sakura, so it's all good in the end.
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SAMAS wrote: With what, their bare hands? They can't do nothing if they have no weapons.
You underestimate the ingeunity of the average combat frontline soldier.
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SAMAS wrote: With what, their bare hands? They can't do nothing if they have no weapons.
You underestimate the ingeunity of the average combat frontline soldier.
Right, they're going to start walking around, trying to beat people to death, and get shot up by the still-armed resistance fighters.
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SAMAS wrote: Right, they're going to start walking around, trying to beat people to death, and get shot up by the still-armed resistance fighters.
Actually, they'll just pick the 12 year old bitch up and then beat her
head against a wall so damn hard it splatters like an overripe watermelon...

Gotta love reading stories of German Atrocities....
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MKSheppard wrote:
SAMAS wrote: Right, they're going to start walking around, trying to beat people to death, and get shot up by the still-armed resistance fighters.
Actually, they'll just pick the 12 year old bitch up and then beat her
head against a wall so damn hard it splatters like an overripe watermelon...

Gotta love reading stories of German Atrocities....
Fight Card

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Take your pick.

Or she can use Fly or Jump to stay out of their reach, then use Windy, Wood, or Shadow to entrap them.

Or if she's been pushed to the killing point, roast them with Firey or Thunder

Or just point them out to the Stuffed-Animal-and-Bishonen-that-are-really-not that'll be hanging around her, and say "Get 'em!"
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Why do you keep assuming that Sakura will do the Wost Possible Strategy of walking towards a group of German soldiers, activating her powers, then using them? Not that she isn't capable of taking out a few hundred soldiers if she pulls out all the stops (Firey at max power) but that doesn't take advantage of the full range of her powers, much of which works best from shadows (lche actually has a "The Shadow" card).

Besides, if the Nazis really decides to exterminate entire cities to find her, then congrats! You now have a pissed off Sakura without moral restrictions. This is a Sakura which will travel to the heart of Germany, then begin wiping one city off the face of the earth every night. Don't think she can't either. She first hits the entire city with a magnitute eight earthquake, then sends a fire elemental through roasting everything. All of this is under a steady rain of black rose petals. If things take a bit long, no worry! She can make the night (and the day) last as long as she wants to.
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And all it takes is for her to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. I don't care how much magic juice you go in that deck, if you get hit by a V2, you are one dead motherfucker.
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HemlockGrey wrote:And all it takes is for her to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time.


A terrible thing to try to count on against an opponent who can choose where, when, and how to strike.
I don't care how much magic juice you go in that deck, if you get hit by a V2, you are one dead motherfucker.
Then she stays out of London.
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A terrible thing to try to count on against an opponent who can choose where, when, and how to strike.
Right. The instant the Axis see a hint of black rose petals, in comes the carpet bombing.
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That's Darkness + Rose Petals.

And what happens when she's gone by then, or if she attacks the approaching bombers?

And how good would that be for morale? If you don't report it, you may lose your equipemnt, but you escape with your life(unless you pissed her off before). But if you report it, you get carpet-bombed.

Hell, if she was at the pissed stage, and they started trying that(bombing is a terrible way to try to get one person, especially in the dark), what's to stop her from just doing it and leaving, causing the Germans to destroy their own weapons for her?
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And what happens when she's gone by then, or if she attacks the approaching bombers?
Can she handle dozens of escorting fighters? Thought not.
And how good would that be for morale? If you don't report it, you may lose your equipemnt, but you escape with your life(unless you pissed her off before). But if you report it, you get carpet-bombed.
So they dress up the planes as allied bombers.
Hell, if she was at the pissed stage, and they started trying that(bombing is a terrible way to try to get one person, especially in the dark), what's to stop her from just doing it and leaving, causing the Germans to destroy their own weapons for her?
She can't get very far on foot, and if she flies/jumps/magically runs, say hello to Mister Escort Fighter and Mister Strafe
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And what happens when she's gone by then, or if she attacks the approaching bombers?
Can she handle dozens of escorting fighters? Thought not.
They won't see her. She'll just use Cloud/Snow/Windy/etc... to fight them from a distance, while keeping them from seeing her.

And that doesn't take into account the vary good likely hood that she'll be gone by the time they arrive, considering the time It'll take to get the pilots briefed and the planes loaded and up in the air.
And how good would that be for morale? If you don't report it, you may lose your equipemnt, but you escape with your life(unless you pissed her off before). But if you report it, you get carpet-bombed.
So they dress up the planes as allied bombers.
Like that helps. You still get bombed, and you also have to contend with the bomber crews knowing that they're hittng their own people.

Or the soldiers and civillians, about to be bombed by the "new Allied Super-bombers that cannot be detected." Becuase they don't know that their own government is the one doing the damage.
Hell, if she was at the pissed stage, and they started trying that(bombing is a terrible way to try to get one person, especially in the dark), what's to stop her from just doing it and leaving, causing the Germans to destroy their own weapons for her?
She can't get very far on foot, and if she flies/jumps/magically runs, say hello to Mister Escort Fighter and Mister Strafe
Who won't even see her. Remember, it's dark out, and they're so high up they can't even make out induvidual people.

Besides, Mr. Escourt Fighter is busy defending the bombers from other German Fighters, trying to protect their base from the "Allied" bombers trying to destroy their base/town.
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They won't see her. She'll just use Cloud/Snow/Windy/etc... to fight them from a distance, while keeping them from seeing her
Wow! Such a great idea! Too bad it's fucking moronic!

Do you have any idea how long line-of-sight goes up in the clouds? Tell me, incidentally, what CLOUDS are going to do to steel.
And that doesn't take into account the vary good likely hood that she'll be gone by the time they arrive, considering the time It'll take to get the pilots briefed and the planes loaded and up in the air.
Briefing: Shoot anything that's not a Nazi. Planes can scramble really fast.
Like that helps. You still get bombed, and you also have to contend with the bomber crews knowing that they're hittng their own people.
So you tell them the city has been taken over, and then you kill them when they're done.
Who won't even see her. Remember, it's dark out, and they're so high up they can't even make out induvidual people.
Which is why man invented 'radar' and 'lights'
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HemlockGrey wrote:
They won't see her. She'll just use Cloud/Snow/Windy/etc... to fight them from a distance, while keeping them from seeing her
Wow! Such a great idea! Too bad it's fucking moronic!

Do you have any idea how long line-of-sight goes up in the clouds? Tell me, incidentally, what CLOUDS are going to do to steel.
Mess up visibility, making it harder to see the area to be bombed. We're talking dark, thick clouds, the kind that modern airplanes get jittery flying through.

And while they're trying to see the target, Windy is busy messing up their engines.

And Heaven forbid she let's Ice into the bargain.
And that doesn't take into account the vary good likely hood that she'll be gone by the time they arrive, considering the time It'll take to get the pilots briefed and the planes loaded and up in the air.
Briefing: Shoot anything that's not a Nazi. Planes can scramble really fast.
Not fast enough, and there's the problem of transit time.
Like that helps. You still get bombed, and you also have to contend with the bomber crews knowing that they're hittng their own people.
So you tell them the city has been taken over, and then you kill them when they're done.
Right. So you have the Allies quickly coming in and taking over cities, and the bombers that are sent out to destroy them are never seen again.

And morale takes another nosedive.
Who won't even see her. Remember, it's dark out, and they're so high up they can't even make out induvidual people.
Which is why man invented 'radar' and 'lights'[/quote]

Neither will help. You try taking an old WWI plane out at night and try spotting single people on the road.
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Incidentally, planes tend to fly HIGHER than clouds. That rules out both 'Clouds' and 'Ice'
Not fast enough, and there's the problem of transit time.
WWII fighters are faster than people on foot.
Right. So you have the Allies quickly coming in and taking over cities, and the bombers that are sent out to destroy them are never seen again.

And morale takes another nosedive.
Or it doesn't, because all you really have to do is send out a hundred planes to kick her ass.
Neither will help. You try taking an old WWI plane out at night and try spotting single people on the road.
Which would be relevant were we talking about WWII.
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HemlockGrey wrote:
Neither will help. You try taking an old WWI plane out at night and try spotting single people on the road.
Which would be relevant were we talking about WWII.
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HemlockGrey wrote:
Neither will help. You try taking an old WWI plane out at night and try spotting single people on the road.
Which would be relevant were we talking about WWII.
Still using the old Mark I Eyeball.
We talking about the same WW2, the one which saw massive use of radar bombing. :roll:
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
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HemlockGrey wrote: Which would be relevant were we talking about WWII.
Still using the old Mark I Eyeball.
We talking about the same WW2, the one which saw massive use of radar bombing. :roll:
Which of course is sensitive enough to pick out individuals.
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IG-88E wrote: Still using the old Mark I Eyeball.
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