What happens when you die?
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What happens when you die?
Here is a question for you all. What do you think happens to you when you die.
1. Go to Heaven or Hell
2. Come back to as something else
3. Just die and that is it
4. Something else
1. Go to Heaven or Hell
2. Come back to as something else
3. Just die and that is it
4. Something else
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Same thing happens as when you go to sleep except you don't wake up, unless of course you die in a more... disconcerting manner, like being blown apart by artillery in which case - FOOOOM!!<extremely brief pain>*black*.
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If, as I believe, there is no God, no heaven, no hell, etc. and we are just another form of animal life, with a more highly evolved intelligence, then consciousness is entirely bound up with the physical body, and does not survive its death. If that is so, then when you die, you will sink into oblivion, and so from your personal point of view, you, the universe, and everything in it might as well never have existed.
Well, if you want something a little less negative (ie. satisfy your self preservation instinct)...Perinquus wrote: If that is so, then when you die, you will sink into oblivion, and so from your personal point of view, you, the universe, and everything in it might as well never have existed.
If the passage of time is an illusion (which is increasingly believed to be a strong possibility) then the time you spend alive will always exist within the spacetime continuum. Although the limits of your existance (birth and death) limits the amount of information you receive (ie. a finite amount of experiences). I don't know if this translates into reliving the same experiences over and over, or whether we are experiencing everything at once and this "instant" is simply an illusion.... I don't know.
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Death - ie the clearing away of a generation to make room for the next - is the price of biological progress and being a sexual organism. What always amused me was the fact that many primitive asexual organisms are, in a sense, immortal. The only memories they have are what are in 'science slang' known as genetic memories, and thus each offspring 'knows' everything its parent did.
When I was younger I used to fantasize about perfecting a technique for creating genetic memories for humans - a way of instructing our genes to build our brains with certain memories already chemically planted there, like the lives, memories, thoughts and feelings of each parent. Thus each new generation could, in my fevered imaginings, 'think' it was each parent before it.
I'm sure there are a horde of people who can point out why this wouldn't work (you might start by pointing out that the child would skewer the memories in order to keep itself sane - so that it didn't percieve itself in two places at the same time, or else it would go nuts), but it's still fun to dream. And to realize that your kids' memories of past generations would all end with them having sex.
When I was younger I used to fantasize about perfecting a technique for creating genetic memories for humans - a way of instructing our genes to build our brains with certain memories already chemically planted there, like the lives, memories, thoughts and feelings of each parent. Thus each new generation could, in my fevered imaginings, 'think' it was each parent before it.
I'm sure there are a horde of people who can point out why this wouldn't work (you might start by pointing out that the child would skewer the memories in order to keep itself sane - so that it didn't percieve itself in two places at the same time, or else it would go nuts), but it's still fun to dream. And to realize that your kids' memories of past generations would all end with them having sex.
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It's a depressing subject. Either accept reality and move on, or decide to adopt one of the many comforting superstitions.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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When I die I'll be fertilizer or fishfood, and that'll be the end of me. Not the happiest thing to think about, but you can either face reality or live some fantasy life hoping it'll change things and make you feel better.
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I assume the afterlife exists and that there's something to it, but again I have no hard proof-- just anecdotal evidence at best. If indeed I just die and that's it, I'll never know so.....?
Rest assured, if there is a heaven I'll get backstage passes for all you guys (& girls) and we can have a massive drunken party and go brawl with the Mormons, or maybe go to the Fundie Zoo and poke them with sticks through the bars.
Rest assured, if there is a heaven I'll get backstage passes for all you guys (& girls) and we can have a massive drunken party and go brawl with the Mormons, or maybe go to the Fundie Zoo and poke them with sticks through the bars.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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You forgot the "Come back as another person" option. Reincarnation as "something else" implies another species.
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What happens when you die?... you rot or get turned to ash.. duh
Though I suppose that all these comforter theorys help the mind, because all the hope and belief in something doesn't amount to anything when you take the dirt nap. My personal comforter is just plain death and a hope my consciousness lives just enough to discover what death is before I blink from existance.
Though I suppose that all these comforter theorys help the mind, because all the hope and belief in something doesn't amount to anything when you take the dirt nap. My personal comforter is just plain death and a hope my consciousness lives just enough to discover what death is before I blink from existance.
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I want to play one, last prank on the world. On my tombstone, where they list the year you were born and the year you died, I want:
"1983 - Present"
I figure that people will get a good laugh if they just happen to walk by while on their way back from visiting grandpa's grave. Why let death stop you from serving society in some valuable way?
Oh, and another thing. I refuse to let myself be buried in a coffin. It's ludicrously expensive, and my family members have better things to do with $5000. I want to be cremated and have my ashes kept in an urn. Then, the urn will be kept with my family, and a picture of my will be on the front of it with the caption, "I'm watching you." All I ask is a small, modest tombstone in a graveyard, but I won't let my body sit there, on principle. I refuse to let my corpse take up valuable space that could be used for farming and feeding hungry people.
"1983 - Present"
I figure that people will get a good laugh if they just happen to walk by while on their way back from visiting grandpa's grave. Why let death stop you from serving society in some valuable way?
Oh, and another thing. I refuse to let myself be buried in a coffin. It's ludicrously expensive, and my family members have better things to do with $5000. I want to be cremated and have my ashes kept in an urn. Then, the urn will be kept with my family, and a picture of my will be on the front of it with the caption, "I'm watching you." All I ask is a small, modest tombstone in a graveyard, but I won't let my body sit there, on principle. I refuse to let my corpse take up valuable space that could be used for farming and feeding hungry people.
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Durandal: Believe it or not, they still make you buy a casket for cremation a lot of times. o.O
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Thats why you build your own and get cremated in the forest
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They don't make you buy a casket for cremation, per se, just a pine box that they can transport/carry/burn you in. As far as I know. My best friend's father passed away earlier this year and that's what I heard from him.
Me, when I die I want all my assets liquidated and the cash used to erect a giant bronze statue of me, set up in a park somewhere, with the only strangeness being that my statue would have a giant and noticable hard-on under its trousers. And let future generations make of that what they will.
Me, when I die I want all my assets liquidated and the cash used to erect a giant bronze statue of me, set up in a park somewhere, with the only strangeness being that my statue would have a giant and noticable hard-on under its trousers. And let future generations make of that what they will.
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that pine box, they call it a casket.
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I was laughing my ass off when I read that....Lagmonster wrote:Well...yeah. You're right. But a simple one.
As long as no one confuses it for the $10,000 Omnideath3000 uber-coffin with all-leather interior and fog lights that Aunt Muffy bought for her cat, Scrotums.
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[Dr.Evil]Lagmonster wrote: Me, when I die I want all my assets liquidated and the cash used to erect a giant bronze statue of me, set up in a park somewhere, with the only strangeness being that my statue would have a giant and noticable hard-on under its trousers. And let future generations make of that what they will.
My statue will be installed on a giant pyramid made from solid plutonium. Millenia from now, when humans are back living like primitives (via nuclear war, or disease, etc), they will recognize me as the evil god of famine, plague, and destruction; All will fear me!!! Muhahaha....
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I want as inexpensive a funeral as possible. and thereafter, I hope to stick around as a ghost.
After all, my one and only fear throught my entire life about Death has been all the stuff I'll miss.
After all, my one and only fear throught my entire life about Death has been all the stuff I'll miss.
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Actually, as depressing as oblvion may seem at first, it's probably a good thing. Think about it a moment: is there any afterlife involving the concept of eternity (which is the only way to avoid oblivion eventually), with the possible exception of reincarnation, that would not eventually become totally and completely unbearable? No matter how wonderful heaven might be, could you stand to be there after 100 million years? The only way humans could be made to endure an eternity of anything is if their perception or consciousness were distorted out of all recognition from what they originally were - which means it wouldn't really be you anymore would it? I'll take oblivion and count myself lucky. If it still seems depressing, just make the most of the time you've got. Carpe that old diem!
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