Lyta burst from her seat.
"Are you seriously claiming that your venture into Vorlon space was justified because of a dispute eight years ago? The vorlons, should they have wanted to could have easily wiped you out in those eight years." Furthermore, there were Narn invloved in the early days of the Vorlon return, whom despite also losing a ship to the Vorlons managed to get over it.
"Or perhaps you're trying to justify your entrance into their space 'the Shadows asked us to do it'. Well I got news for you buster, you sided with an empire the Vorlons were at war with, and you entered Vorlon space, stole Vorlon property and destroyed Vorlon ships. All in aid of their enemy, or so you claim. By your very claim you made the first strike against the Vorlon Empire then.
As for your 'they didn't know' comment? That's clearly speculation. They did after all have enough foresight to hide a fleet in ambush of your attack fleet, AND they set up defenses that your fleet couldn't handle. Clearly they anticipated the attack whether you want to admit it or not.
And claiming there had been no offerings of peace? You got warnings first and you went counter to them. The Vorlon Empire was clear it didn't want to go to war, they even told you they had other concerns. Of course, your allies were those concerns. Naturally any evidence we bring forth, like the Narn, will be called counterfiet.
And 'perhaps they were out of supplies?' Come on, now you're stretching. Vorlon ships are organic, feeding off the very stars. Call you warleader here, before a telepath of any neutral faction and have her scanned to verify she wholly believes those ships stopped because they were 'short on supplies.' None of them was damaged at all. In fact, we can even show starlogs, logs everyone here has access to, that show the fleet moved past your planet, actually going so far as to avoid it. Can you tell me why they'd go run circles around your planet if they wanted to destroy it? Can you, ambassador, honestly say the Vorlons did not make telepathic with you and offer mercy?
As far as telepathy laws go you've got to be kidding. The Dilgar treatment of prisoners is well documented. We broke no laws of our own, let alone any interstellar ones and the perpetrators of the Dilgar Invasion are questioning our treatment of POWs?
The real reason the Dilgar entered Vorlon space was greed. Greed for weapons technology, since their own are frankly pathetic. Greed for the Narn homeworlds. We made our position of helping our allies clear from day one. Moreover, the Narn and Minbari asked for our help in curbing the Dilgar threat. Your speech attempted to justify your action based on helping your allies the Shadows but it's not a good enough reason for us?
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Its no more speculation than your bizarre claim that the Brakiri government is in allegiance with the Dilgar for the sole purpose of destroynig the Vorlon empire Ms. Alexander...
There is a difference between setting up defences, and trying to imply that just because you have set up defences someone is 'obviously' enroute to attack you. By such logic one could deploy mines on any jump gate and the first ship to go through it must naturally be enroute to attack your planets thus justifying the invasion that you began a month before the incident.
Am i the only one in this room that finds such a notion luaghable?!
You keep claiming that you stretched forth some mythical olive branch. Where, When, was it in between bombarding planets from orbit? Because the vorlon fleet at NO point stopped in its campaign.
So tell us Ms. Alexander, just when was this pause for clarity that you keep trying to claim you gave. NO? I didnt think so. Or perhaps you think somehow, with whatever warped logic you possess that leaving a single population centre a moments pause before meteing its destruction is something to be applauded for.
As for your Vorlons' intrusion into my mind. It was the day before you destroyed the last planet in the vreatan system. If you are as eclectic as you claim then surely you would have known and acted upon the knoweledge that the Dilgar had every intention at that point of recalling its fleets. That the ships orbiting Vreatan VIII carried civilians, did this stop you from destroying them all. NO! It didnt so if you want to keep propogating this charade that you tried to engage in a cease fire then you should get yourself straight.
Either your omniprescient Vrolon masters are bent on destruction nd were going to continue the campaign regardless of my answer, or they are less perfect then they pretend unable to see the plain truth when presented before them.
As for Pow's that was a different time, a different place and a different world. Why its like saying that the vorlons have no right to be here because of Sheridans sacrifice. Or that you above all other races are liable for war crimes because of the many planets and billions of lives you eradicated on your last war against the shadows.
And in regards to laws censuring telepaths unauthorised scans. Well i think the Humans might have something to say about that, but since you're wanted for a list of crimes against EarthDome as long as Magnums arm its doubtful that they'd give you much credence for debating it.
Not a good enough reason for you. Well, since only a fool would waste any more breath trying to enlighten such an irrational being in am finished talking with you.
I move to censure Ms. Alexander from this coucil. I don't relish the idea of such an unstable, not to mention a rogue telepath having access to the proceedings that occur on this station. She has already demonstrated that she has no respect for the privacy of others and as such is a liability to any nation that the Vorlon empire chooses to bully.
There is a difference between setting up defences, and trying to imply that just because you have set up defences someone is 'obviously' enroute to attack you. By such logic one could deploy mines on any jump gate and the first ship to go through it must naturally be enroute to attack your planets thus justifying the invasion that you began a month before the incident.
Am i the only one in this room that finds such a notion luaghable?!
You keep claiming that you stretched forth some mythical olive branch. Where, When, was it in between bombarding planets from orbit? Because the vorlon fleet at NO point stopped in its campaign.
So tell us Ms. Alexander, just when was this pause for clarity that you keep trying to claim you gave. NO? I didnt think so. Or perhaps you think somehow, with whatever warped logic you possess that leaving a single population centre a moments pause before meteing its destruction is something to be applauded for.
As for your Vorlons' intrusion into my mind. It was the day before you destroyed the last planet in the vreatan system. If you are as eclectic as you claim then surely you would have known and acted upon the knoweledge that the Dilgar had every intention at that point of recalling its fleets. That the ships orbiting Vreatan VIII carried civilians, did this stop you from destroying them all. NO! It didnt so if you want to keep propogating this charade that you tried to engage in a cease fire then you should get yourself straight.
Either your omniprescient Vrolon masters are bent on destruction nd were going to continue the campaign regardless of my answer, or they are less perfect then they pretend unable to see the plain truth when presented before them.
As for Pow's that was a different time, a different place and a different world. Why its like saying that the vorlons have no right to be here because of Sheridans sacrifice. Or that you above all other races are liable for war crimes because of the many planets and billions of lives you eradicated on your last war against the shadows.
And in regards to laws censuring telepaths unauthorised scans. Well i think the Humans might have something to say about that, but since you're wanted for a list of crimes against EarthDome as long as Magnums arm its doubtful that they'd give you much credence for debating it.
Not a good enough reason for you. Well, since only a fool would waste any more breath trying to enlighten such an irrational being in am finished talking with you.
I move to censure Ms. Alexander from this coucil. I don't relish the idea of such an unstable, not to mention a rogue telepath having access to the proceedings that occur on this station. She has already demonstrated that she has no respect for the privacy of others and as such is a liability to any nation that the Vorlon empire chooses to bully.
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"Let me address your points ambassador. If everyone will observe the viewscreen please.
Footage of vorlon satellites deployed around a jump gate plays. After a few seconds a Dilgar fleet attacks in two waves, destroying several satellites. The first wave is destroyed and the remaining ships, the now well known Dilgar capture vessels, hover out of range. One of them strays too close and is damaged.
Our defenses were set on the warp gate that lead further into our space. Further. This battle took place in our space and you'd dare claim it wasn't an invasion? More over the jump point you attempted to get through lead to only a single exit gate in the next system. There is only one possible route for your ships ambassador, and that is into the Vorlon Empire and it's home systems. You closed the jump gate, irreveseably, behind you too. You had no where to go but our systems. I present to the council now, the jump point opened into our space by the Dilgar Confederacy, an act the Narn, Minbari, Hurr, Grome, Gaim, Lokran and Centauri all saw at the least and likely so did the Earthforce and the Corporate sector.
Footage of a Dilgar vessel is shown as it opens a jump point, accompanied by a Dilgar fleet and a captured vorlon vessel. The footage is from a Vorlon dreadnought, and shows it destroying the Dilgar fleet. The ships are visibly the same ones that were turned back by the satellites. Closer up images from a fighter deployed by the dreadnought show it's attack run on the damaged Dilgar capture ship.
Please ambassador, explain to us what your fleet was doing opening jump points into our space if you had no intention of going there. Perhaps you could explain how when we attacked the stationary jumpship and destroyed it your fleet, on the other side of the sector showed up if they weren't planning to use it?
No, you were coming for us. You got stopped at the first jump gate and you got nailed at the second.
We offered you terms of surrender several times. You yourself even admit to the intrusion. It wasn't just before the attack. It was in fact almost a month before the attack.
Sensor data is then displayed, data that everyone allied to the Vorlons already has. It clearly shows the Vreetan fleet move from it's last location to spend a month hovering near the last Dilgar planet in the system.
As the logs clearly show, logs that everyone here has, our fleet relented. Deny it as much as you want but everyone here saw it. Don't pretend like it's our fault you didn't surrender. We gave you a choice whether you want to admit it or not.
As for me and Earthdome, I recieved special dispensation from the Psycor. I'm not under their jurisdiction, if you can even claim someone falls under another's jurisdiction simply by accident of birth.
And censure me? I guess you'd throw out Kosh next too, since he's even stronger than me. I guess we should actually make sure there are no telepaths on the station, they might pick something up! Oh no wait, they might even appear on home planets! We should lock them all up!
Lastly, I never scanned anyone here. Of course, you can't prove I did anymore than I can prove I didn't. Perhaps you'd like to censure Kosh? Perhaps he did scan Vera, perhaps he didn't. She radiates anti alien emotions, it's actually an effort to block her. Perhaps you're even misinterperting him. Perhaps a better translation would be 'I understand what you're saying'. Or perhaps he did delve deeply into her mind and take what he wanted. At the very least if you propose a censure you should have some evidence of the transgression.
So tell us ambassador, where was your fleet, the one we caught opening a jump point to our space going then? Where were they going when they tried to break through to the same system a month before? A system with no exits but to the Vorlon core systems? Perhaps after that you can explain how your self confessed actions to aid the Shadows, our well know enemy don't make you a valid target for the vorlons wrath?
I've shown evidence that many of you already had. In fact, using the Hurr and other parties that shared sensor data, we can all establish clearly what happened. Even the Dilgar's own data backs up our story. They're left with 'they ran out of supplies, that's why they relented' nonsense, that clearly is grasping at straws. If anyone is to be censured it's the Dilgar for a deliberate attempt to mislead this gathering."
Lyta sat down and awaited the Dilgar's response.
Footage of vorlon satellites deployed around a jump gate plays. After a few seconds a Dilgar fleet attacks in two waves, destroying several satellites. The first wave is destroyed and the remaining ships, the now well known Dilgar capture vessels, hover out of range. One of them strays too close and is damaged.
Our defenses were set on the warp gate that lead further into our space. Further. This battle took place in our space and you'd dare claim it wasn't an invasion? More over the jump point you attempted to get through lead to only a single exit gate in the next system. There is only one possible route for your ships ambassador, and that is into the Vorlon Empire and it's home systems. You closed the jump gate, irreveseably, behind you too. You had no where to go but our systems. I present to the council now, the jump point opened into our space by the Dilgar Confederacy, an act the Narn, Minbari, Hurr, Grome, Gaim, Lokran and Centauri all saw at the least and likely so did the Earthforce and the Corporate sector.
Footage of a Dilgar vessel is shown as it opens a jump point, accompanied by a Dilgar fleet and a captured vorlon vessel. The footage is from a Vorlon dreadnought, and shows it destroying the Dilgar fleet. The ships are visibly the same ones that were turned back by the satellites. Closer up images from a fighter deployed by the dreadnought show it's attack run on the damaged Dilgar capture ship.
Please ambassador, explain to us what your fleet was doing opening jump points into our space if you had no intention of going there. Perhaps you could explain how when we attacked the stationary jumpship and destroyed it your fleet, on the other side of the sector showed up if they weren't planning to use it?
No, you were coming for us. You got stopped at the first jump gate and you got nailed at the second.
We offered you terms of surrender several times. You yourself even admit to the intrusion. It wasn't just before the attack. It was in fact almost a month before the attack.
Sensor data is then displayed, data that everyone allied to the Vorlons already has. It clearly shows the Vreetan fleet move from it's last location to spend a month hovering near the last Dilgar planet in the system.
As the logs clearly show, logs that everyone here has, our fleet relented. Deny it as much as you want but everyone here saw it. Don't pretend like it's our fault you didn't surrender. We gave you a choice whether you want to admit it or not.
As for me and Earthdome, I recieved special dispensation from the Psycor. I'm not under their jurisdiction, if you can even claim someone falls under another's jurisdiction simply by accident of birth.
And censure me? I guess you'd throw out Kosh next too, since he's even stronger than me. I guess we should actually make sure there are no telepaths on the station, they might pick something up! Oh no wait, they might even appear on home planets! We should lock them all up!
Lastly, I never scanned anyone here. Of course, you can't prove I did anymore than I can prove I didn't. Perhaps you'd like to censure Kosh? Perhaps he did scan Vera, perhaps he didn't. She radiates anti alien emotions, it's actually an effort to block her. Perhaps you're even misinterperting him. Perhaps a better translation would be 'I understand what you're saying'. Or perhaps he did delve deeply into her mind and take what he wanted. At the very least if you propose a censure you should have some evidence of the transgression.
So tell us ambassador, where was your fleet, the one we caught opening a jump point to our space going then? Where were they going when they tried to break through to the same system a month before? A system with no exits but to the Vorlon core systems? Perhaps after that you can explain how your self confessed actions to aid the Shadows, our well know enemy don't make you a valid target for the vorlons wrath?
I've shown evidence that many of you already had. In fact, using the Hurr and other parties that shared sensor data, we can all establish clearly what happened. Even the Dilgar's own data backs up our story. They're left with 'they ran out of supplies, that's why they relented' nonsense, that clearly is grasping at straws. If anyone is to be censured it's the Dilgar for a deliberate attempt to mislead this gathering."
Lyta sat down and awaited the Dilgar's response.
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The Drazi ambassador had been restlessly figiting throughout Lyta's speech. When she concluded, he leapt to his feet. The chair wisely recognised him, and he began to speak with great passion.
[img=left]http://members.optusnet.com.au/bcarletti/drazi100.jpg[/img] "These mental intrusions are an outrage! I did not agree to have my innermost thoughts violated in this council!
Ambassador Magnan, unless you remove the telepaths from this gathering, the Drazi will have to withdraw from M6 entirely!"
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[img=left]http://members.optusnet.com.au/bcarletti/drazi100.jpg[/img] "These mental intrusions are an outrage! I did not agree to have my innermost thoughts violated in this council!
Ambassador Magnan, unless you remove the telepaths from this gathering, the Drazi will have to withdraw from M6 entirely!"
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"The Corporate Sector doesn't take orders from foreign governments. All options are on the table including military intervention. Human hands are the only ones clean of genocide over the past few years, and we intend to keep it that way. Your government had no justification killing billions of innocent people. The Vorlons and their lapdogs are war criminals and one day you'll be brought to justice."If you want war with the Vorlons you'll have to find another reason than their treatment of the Dilgar or a personal grudge.
Brian
"It's hardly an order. We've ceased our hostilities toward the Dilgar and have never, ever fired on an Earthforce or Corporate sector vessel. There is no reason for any more bloodshed. Moreover, if humans are the only ones guilt free, and I note you said recently, who else will you go after? The Minbari? The Narn? The Centauri? Maybe even the Dilgar themselves? Perhaps the Shadows?
We have our share of blood on our hands, certainly but I thought the cycle of violence was something you objected to? We didn't begin the conflict. In the words of the venerable Sherridan, never start a fight but always finish one. The Vorlons, and others, have finished the Dilgar threat. In fact, they've inteceeded in the Dilgar conquest, at great cost to the Dilgar. Perhaps you can think of another time in history where an interstellar power opposed the Dilgar, opposed the very same Warmaster?
As a side note Dilgar are not an innocent people. They are pathologically aggressive and it's a documented fact that virtually their entire species mobilised for their last war. Only a handful stayed behind on thier doomed planets. While it's regrettable that there were undoubtedly some innocents, if these are the same Dilgar returned, as they claim they are, then killing them is no less than they deserve for what they did to the league worlds. In essence, finishing the job Earth thought they'd accomplished.
The Vorlon Empire is not a member of any 'Interstellar Alliance', nor has it signed off on any conventions that would make it's actions illegal. The point remains that the Vorlon Empire is dismantling it's attack fleet. It will not totally disarm, such would be foolish. Soon it will be clear the Vorlon Empire's only capacity will be defense. If this is unacceptable to the Corporate sector there is little we can do. They can come over and use their shiny new warships to destroy us, we likely can't stop them. As I said, some one hundred and fifty warships are to be decomissioned. Not sold off to some cash strapped government but actually scrapped. If that doesn't convince you the Vorlons want peace I don't know what will."
We have our share of blood on our hands, certainly but I thought the cycle of violence was something you objected to? We didn't begin the conflict. In the words of the venerable Sherridan, never start a fight but always finish one. The Vorlons, and others, have finished the Dilgar threat. In fact, they've inteceeded in the Dilgar conquest, at great cost to the Dilgar. Perhaps you can think of another time in history where an interstellar power opposed the Dilgar, opposed the very same Warmaster?
As a side note Dilgar are not an innocent people. They are pathologically aggressive and it's a documented fact that virtually their entire species mobilised for their last war. Only a handful stayed behind on thier doomed planets. While it's regrettable that there were undoubtedly some innocents, if these are the same Dilgar returned, as they claim they are, then killing them is no less than they deserve for what they did to the league worlds. In essence, finishing the job Earth thought they'd accomplished.
The Vorlon Empire is not a member of any 'Interstellar Alliance', nor has it signed off on any conventions that would make it's actions illegal. The point remains that the Vorlon Empire is dismantling it's attack fleet. It will not totally disarm, such would be foolish. Soon it will be clear the Vorlon Empire's only capacity will be defense. If this is unacceptable to the Corporate sector there is little we can do. They can come over and use their shiny new warships to destroy us, we likely can't stop them. As I said, some one hundred and fifty warships are to be decomissioned. Not sold off to some cash strapped government but actually scrapped. If that doesn't convince you the Vorlons want peace I don't know what will."
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"Words mean nothing, actions do. The Corporate Sector supported the Narns in their local conflict with the Dilgar by selling them warships to defend themselves. The Corporate Sector also made a military alliance with the Dilgar in hopes of diffusing further regional conflict. But instead of playing soft politics like us the Vorlons and the Minbari chose to come halfway across the galaxy to interfere in a regional conflict and kill billions of civilians."
"The Vorlons are murderers. Maybe the Dilgar are too but they did not wipe out billions of sentient lifeforms. Whether the Vorlons signed a treaty to respect sentient life is irrelevant. The Corporate Sector dealt with the Yolu threat through occupation and destruction of military vessels, not punishing the civilian population. It is true that in our distant past humans have committed atrocities. But we are beyond that now, beyond you Vorlon scum. I will relish the day when I can watch the Vorlons be paraded in chains into the Hague, since no other government in the galaxy seems to recognize the magnitude of the destruction wrought by the Vorlons."
"We have also acquired information of a war several years ago started by the Vorlons against an alien power. These aliens were halfway across the galaxy, no threat to the Vorlons, yet the Vorlons came to conquer. The Vorlons are an aggressive bloodthirsty race and all sentient beings would do well to disassociate themselves from the Vorlons."
Brian
"The Vorlons are murderers. Maybe the Dilgar are too but they did not wipe out billions of sentient lifeforms. Whether the Vorlons signed a treaty to respect sentient life is irrelevant. The Corporate Sector dealt with the Yolu threat through occupation and destruction of military vessels, not punishing the civilian population. It is true that in our distant past humans have committed atrocities. But we are beyond that now, beyond you Vorlon scum. I will relish the day when I can watch the Vorlons be paraded in chains into the Hague, since no other government in the galaxy seems to recognize the magnitude of the destruction wrought by the Vorlons."
"We have also acquired information of a war several years ago started by the Vorlons against an alien power. These aliens were halfway across the galaxy, no threat to the Vorlons, yet the Vorlons came to conquer. The Vorlons are an aggressive bloodthirsty race and all sentient beings would do well to disassociate themselves from the Vorlons."
Brian
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"We need to get someone to M6 as fast as possible. The political situation is changing much faster than I had ever anticipated."
"But how are we going to get to the Cooke system? We're too far away."
"Send someone from our base in Minbari territory."
"But how are we going to get to the Cooke system? We're too far away."
"Send someone from our base in Minbari territory."
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Ambassador Magnan, already unnerved by the aggressive tone this discussion had taken, was both shocked by the Drazi threat, and relieved that he had something he could respond to clearly.
"Ambassador, although I'm sure the prospect of your privacy having been violated is most disturbing, I'm afraid that we have no evidence that anyone has scanned you or even will telepathically scan you in the future. Furthermore, we have not established any such ground rules for the council regarding the use or telepathy or the abolishment thereof.
Normally, I would suggest we set up a committee to look into the matter," at which point several ambassadors rolled their eyes and the Drazi representative looked like he was ready to kill Magnan, which Magnan noticed and hurriedly pressed on, "but it's quite clear that this matter is too important to be delayed. I therefore suggest that a temporary injunction on telepathic intrusion be enacted while a more thorough and permanent set of regulations can be drafted."
"But how will we know..."
Every hour of his CDT experience screamed in protest, but Magnan was forced to interrupt the Drazi.
"As to the problem of enforcement... seeing as we may have allowed our tempers to overwhelm us today, I suggest that we enjoy a recess until our respective governments can send top telepaths here to assist us in our diplomatic endeavours here on Mesopotamia Six. Those governments who choose to not send telepaths will, of course, be required to produce conclusive, demonstrative evidence to support any claims of telepathic intrusion. And, for those nations that cannot send their own telepaths for whatever reason, Earth is willing to provide telepaths at cost - and I believe you'll find those rates extremely reasonable.
As I said earlier, I believe a recess may well be in order. I therefore motion that we adjourn for an indefinite period of time, not to exceed four Earth weeks. Do I have a second?"
"Ambassador, although I'm sure the prospect of your privacy having been violated is most disturbing, I'm afraid that we have no evidence that anyone has scanned you or even will telepathically scan you in the future. Furthermore, we have not established any such ground rules for the council regarding the use or telepathy or the abolishment thereof.
Normally, I would suggest we set up a committee to look into the matter," at which point several ambassadors rolled their eyes and the Drazi representative looked like he was ready to kill Magnan, which Magnan noticed and hurriedly pressed on, "but it's quite clear that this matter is too important to be delayed. I therefore suggest that a temporary injunction on telepathic intrusion be enacted while a more thorough and permanent set of regulations can be drafted."
"But how will we know..."
Every hour of his CDT experience screamed in protest, but Magnan was forced to interrupt the Drazi.
"As to the problem of enforcement... seeing as we may have allowed our tempers to overwhelm us today, I suggest that we enjoy a recess until our respective governments can send top telepaths here to assist us in our diplomatic endeavours here on Mesopotamia Six. Those governments who choose to not send telepaths will, of course, be required to produce conclusive, demonstrative evidence to support any claims of telepathic intrusion. And, for those nations that cannot send their own telepaths for whatever reason, Earth is willing to provide telepaths at cost - and I believe you'll find those rates extremely reasonable.
As I said earlier, I believe a recess may well be in order. I therefore motion that we adjourn for an indefinite period of time, not to exceed four Earth weeks. Do I have a second?"
"All this talk of telepaths is a ploy to adjourn the Council for four weeks. What can happen in four weeks? We have a saying on Earth, that the world was created in seven days."
Vera pauses. "However I agree that the current environment is intolerable. If any more atrocities happen in the next four weeks the Corporate Sector will fully document and bring to attention any slaughter. Do not think you have carte blanche for the next four weeks," says Vera shooting a glance at the Vorlon.
Brian
Vera pauses. "However I agree that the current environment is intolerable. If any more atrocities happen in the next four weeks the Corporate Sector will fully document and bring to attention any slaughter. Do not think you have carte blanche for the next four weeks," says Vera shooting a glance at the Vorlon.
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Vir was considering seconding Magnan's motion when one of his aides came up to him and whispered something into his ear. His eyes widened.
"Excuse me, Ambassador Magnan, but I have just been informed of something that is too important to be left for four weeks," Vir said. "The world currently known as Spite has been all but depopulated. Out of a population of approximatly four billion, less than one hundred fifty million remains."
"This world was in the possession of the Dilgar Confederacy, but was populated almost entirely by Narns. At this very moment, a Minbari fleet composed of ships of both their and Vorlon construction orbits this world."
"Ambassador Delenn, why does it appear that a Minbari fleet has unleashed such devestation upon a world populated by the people you professed to be trying to save?"
"Excuse me, Ambassador Magnan, but I have just been informed of something that is too important to be left for four weeks," Vir said. "The world currently known as Spite has been all but depopulated. Out of a population of approximatly four billion, less than one hundred fifty million remains."
"This world was in the possession of the Dilgar Confederacy, but was populated almost entirely by Narns. At this very moment, a Minbari fleet composed of ships of both their and Vorlon construction orbits this world."
"Ambassador Delenn, why does it appear that a Minbari fleet has unleashed such devestation upon a world populated by the people you professed to be trying to save?"
"I want to mow down a bunch of motherfuckers with absurdly large weapons and relative impunity - preferably in and around a skyscraper. Then I want to fight a grim battle against the unlikely duo of the Terminator and Robocop. The last level should involve (but not be limited to) multiple robo-Hitlers and a gorillasaurus rex."--Uraniun235 on his ideal FPS game
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Ben Magnan swallowed hard. Nearly four billion civilian deaths? It was unthinkable. The scale was beyond comprehension. How many of those survivors would die in the weeks to come from famine and disease brought on by a devastated infrastructure? How could Earth respond? How should it respond?
This was too much. He motioned Retief to his side and spoke in a hurried whisper.
"Get on the Gold channel to Earthdome instanter. We need instructions from the President and we need them now."
"I'll see what I can manage."
Magnan cleared his throat.
"Earth... the Earth Alliance will, ah, need confirmation for this report. No matter who perpetrated such an act, we need to be completely sure of our facts before proceeding. And before we all... before this turns into a free-for-all... I must insist that the location of this planet be shared so that we can dispatch relief ships at once. With the infrastructure blasted away, those souls will soon be victim to famine and disease."
Ben Magnan fell into his chair, stunned by this turn of events.
This was too much. He motioned Retief to his side and spoke in a hurried whisper.
"Get on the Gold channel to Earthdome instanter. We need instructions from the President and we need them now."
"I'll see what I can manage."
Magnan cleared his throat.
"Earth... the Earth Alliance will, ah, need confirmation for this report. No matter who perpetrated such an act, we need to be completely sure of our facts before proceeding. And before we all... before this turns into a free-for-all... I must insist that the location of this planet be shared so that we can dispatch relief ships at once. With the infrastructure blasted away, those souls will soon be victim to famine and disease."
Ben Magnan fell into his chair, stunned by this turn of events.
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"Prepare to engage the orbital defenses, to cut a path for our troops."
Such a simple order would lead to such unexpected consequences. The day was already won, and the squadron dispatched to defeat this planet's defenses ordered not to open fire upon the planet, only to destroy the orbital stations.
Aboard the vanguard cruisers, fighters streaked out to engage the stations in orbit, as the lesser frigates escorted down the first wave of landing craft, comprising of a hundred and eighty thousand of the finest Minbari troops. They moved to the capital, with words of fierce resistance on the ground by occupying defenders.
The Nial heavy fighters cut through space, their weapons blazing and blasting at the large stations, some of Narn design, some of Dilgar. Fighters launched to stop them, but were brushed aside. One by one, the stations were blasted and rendered inoperable... but the orbits were too low. Without their station keeping thrusters, the stations descended and as large masses, reentered atmosphere at multiple locations about the globe.
Nimune gasped at her displays at the realization of what was happening. "All ships! Fire on those wrecks as they enter! Don't let any impact the surface!"
It was inevitable however, and a futile act. Heavy metal reentering atmosphere, or being blown to small fragments became toxic vapors, and one impact of a kilometer wide remnant of station would blow dust about the atmosphere, more powerful than any mass driver.
She choked back a gasp, and remained with a stoic expression at her station.
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"...and so, a regettable incident has occured. The... planet's environment can be salvaged and reclaimed, but billions of lives have already been lost. Our forces are already on site with the newly recreated Narn Navy to render aid as best we can. Our warriors are evacuating survivors..."
Delenn held her head low, quivering as well from the shame and regret. They had come, with a goal to liberate the Narn people from their Dilgar oppressors, but such.. had happened instead.
"We're preparing whatever aid we can send, and will provide whatever is asked of us by the government of the Narn Regime. As she sat, one strangely unrelated fact however, had come to her mind. The Brakiri had sent a very cryptic message to Minbar only hours ago, one with perhaps terrible consequence.
Such a simple order would lead to such unexpected consequences. The day was already won, and the squadron dispatched to defeat this planet's defenses ordered not to open fire upon the planet, only to destroy the orbital stations.
Aboard the vanguard cruisers, fighters streaked out to engage the stations in orbit, as the lesser frigates escorted down the first wave of landing craft, comprising of a hundred and eighty thousand of the finest Minbari troops. They moved to the capital, with words of fierce resistance on the ground by occupying defenders.
The Nial heavy fighters cut through space, their weapons blazing and blasting at the large stations, some of Narn design, some of Dilgar. Fighters launched to stop them, but were brushed aside. One by one, the stations were blasted and rendered inoperable... but the orbits were too low. Without their station keeping thrusters, the stations descended and as large masses, reentered atmosphere at multiple locations about the globe.
Nimune gasped at her displays at the realization of what was happening. "All ships! Fire on those wrecks as they enter! Don't let any impact the surface!"
It was inevitable however, and a futile act. Heavy metal reentering atmosphere, or being blown to small fragments became toxic vapors, and one impact of a kilometer wide remnant of station would blow dust about the atmosphere, more powerful than any mass driver.
She choked back a gasp, and remained with a stoic expression at her station.
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"...and so, a regettable incident has occured. The... planet's environment can be salvaged and reclaimed, but billions of lives have already been lost. Our forces are already on site with the newly recreated Narn Navy to render aid as best we can. Our warriors are evacuating survivors..."
Delenn held her head low, quivering as well from the shame and regret. They had come, with a goal to liberate the Narn people from their Dilgar oppressors, but such.. had happened instead.
"We're preparing whatever aid we can send, and will provide whatever is asked of us by the government of the Narn Regime. As she sat, one strangely unrelated fact however, had come to her mind. The Brakiri had sent a very cryptic message to Minbar only hours ago, one with perhaps terrible consequence.
Vera sat quietly, her arms crossed. She waited until everybody had their turn speaking, then stood up. Eyes turned to her.
"We will need confirmation of this information before speaking," said Vera. She sat down. Her face was stone, but turned aside slightly and let off a small smile.
"One?"
"No," said Marxis. He smiled. "Send all of them. This is an opportunity we can't miss."
Brian
"We will need confirmation of this information before speaking," said Vera. She sat down. Her face was stone, but turned aside slightly and let off a small smile.
Code: Select all
Priority Channel - Corporate Sector Headquarters to Earthdome, High Encryption
Prime Minister Nunziata is outraged at the alien genocides. If they prove to be true and Earthforce decides to intervene, the Corporate Sector is behind you.
Marxis
"One?"
"No," said Marxis. He smiled. "Send all of them. This is an opportunity we can't miss."
Brian
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The Minbari and Vorlon ships came through the wormhole by the dozens. It was a full scale invasion, but the satellites were waiting. Though all of the satellites were obsolete, more than half having been built more than 8 years ago, they performed admirably, blasting more than half of the attacking force to space dust. Inevitably, the satellites were destroyed, but it did not matter.
The fleet was almost ready. If this was the best the Vorlons could do, with all of their high and mighty technology, they were in for a rude surprise. Krullenbach sent a declaration of war to the Vorlons, and then another one to the Minbari. It was possible that the Minbari were not in on this, since IFF indicators showed all ships involved as belonging to the Vorlons, but the simple fact was that Minbari ships had invaded Brakiri space and destroyed every one of the vital resource ships in the system. Because they had entered the system without having any cloaking technology, they must have been the same ships that had been nosing around Brakiri territory for years. The Minbari must have gifted them to the Vorlons, knowing full well what the Vorlons would do with them.
They would pay. They would all pay. This Ambassador Kosh was dangerous. For millenia the Vorlons had been aloof, staying out of the affairs of others, and the Brakiri liked it that way. But ever since Kosh had taken over, the Vorlons had been swarming all over the Brakiri, destroying everything in their paths without so much as an apology. Now they launch a full-scale invasion without provocation and for no reason. But all of this was irrelevant. The fleet was almost ready. First Krullenbach would crush the Vorlon invasion force, then he would crush the Vorlons. If the Minbari interfered, they would get the same.
The fleet was almost ready. If this was the best the Vorlons could do, with all of their high and mighty technology, they were in for a rude surprise. Krullenbach sent a declaration of war to the Vorlons, and then another one to the Minbari. It was possible that the Minbari were not in on this, since IFF indicators showed all ships involved as belonging to the Vorlons, but the simple fact was that Minbari ships had invaded Brakiri space and destroyed every one of the vital resource ships in the system. Because they had entered the system without having any cloaking technology, they must have been the same ships that had been nosing around Brakiri territory for years. The Minbari must have gifted them to the Vorlons, knowing full well what the Vorlons would do with them.
They would pay. They would all pay. This Ambassador Kosh was dangerous. For millenia the Vorlons had been aloof, staying out of the affairs of others, and the Brakiri liked it that way. But ever since Kosh had taken over, the Vorlons had been swarming all over the Brakiri, destroying everything in their paths without so much as an apology. Now they launch a full-scale invasion without provocation and for no reason. But all of this was irrelevant. The fleet was almost ready. First Krullenbach would crush the Vorlon invasion force, then he would crush the Vorlons. If the Minbari interfered, they would get the same.
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Marxis jolted upwards as his grand gold doors swung aside. Vera rushed in holding a datapad. She immediately plugged the datapad into Marxis' reader.
"Motherfuckers," said Marxis. "I told Alshain this would happen sooner or later. I told him his little peace treaty and declaration of war wouldn't work."
"So it's time," said Vera.
"I've waited a long time for this." Marxis smiled. "Recall the battleships heading for Spite."
"What about the Prime Minister? Won't she object?"
"The Captains are loyal to me. And the Hurr being occupied by the Vorlons violates one of Alshain's precious treaties. I'll smooth things over with her later. Get the press cameras."
Press Room
"...and we have evidence that the Vorlon Empire has violated the treaty between the Earth Alliance and the Hurr Republic by seizing the Hurr homeworld. The Vorlons have also gained control of all Hurr military forces through command code override. As of now, the Hurr population is being terrorized by the Vorlons," said Marxis.
"Will the Earth Alliance step in and honor their agreement with the Hurr? What happened to the Earth Alliance blockade of the Quadrant 27 jumpgate to Canton? It was removed, at the behest of a personal request by the Vorlons to Alshain himself. Not only that, but Alshain recently scrapped hundreds of defense vessels in the Nocalo system, leaving our colonies vulnerable to attack!"
"We will not stand by any longer and allow the Hurr to be part of an intergalactic chess game. The Quadrant 27 system is now under the juristiction of the Corporate Sector. We will be moving the bulk of our forces to orbit the Hurr homeworld. Should the Vorlons refuse to give us control, we will land troops and free the Hurr."
"Will the Earth Alliance respond to this obvious act of aggression by the Vorlon Empire on one of mankind's military allies? If Alshain's treaties are worth the paper they are written on, he will immediately divert the task force in Nocalo into the Hurr system. I do not expect this of course... I expect the Earth Alliance to dilly dally and press for a diplomatic solution, but the facts speak for themselves. The Hurr are enslaved and Alshain rejected Corporate requests to move a protection fleet into Hurr space. The blood of the dead Hurr are on your hands now Alshain."
ISN News Room
We have analyzed and authenticated tapes leaked to us from a confidential source. The following tapes were recorded several months ago and depict President Alshain having a conversation with Corporate President Marxis. In it Marxis appears to ask for intervention in the Hurr system, and Alshain refuses.
Brian
"Motherfuckers," said Marxis. "I told Alshain this would happen sooner or later. I told him his little peace treaty and declaration of war wouldn't work."
"So it's time," said Vera.
"I've waited a long time for this." Marxis smiled. "Recall the battleships heading for Spite."
"What about the Prime Minister? Won't she object?"
"The Captains are loyal to me. And the Hurr being occupied by the Vorlons violates one of Alshain's precious treaties. I'll smooth things over with her later. Get the press cameras."
Press Room
"...and we have evidence that the Vorlon Empire has violated the treaty between the Earth Alliance and the Hurr Republic by seizing the Hurr homeworld. The Vorlons have also gained control of all Hurr military forces through command code override. As of now, the Hurr population is being terrorized by the Vorlons," said Marxis.
"Will the Earth Alliance step in and honor their agreement with the Hurr? What happened to the Earth Alliance blockade of the Quadrant 27 jumpgate to Canton? It was removed, at the behest of a personal request by the Vorlons to Alshain himself. Not only that, but Alshain recently scrapped hundreds of defense vessels in the Nocalo system, leaving our colonies vulnerable to attack!"
"We will not stand by any longer and allow the Hurr to be part of an intergalactic chess game. The Quadrant 27 system is now under the juristiction of the Corporate Sector. We will be moving the bulk of our forces to orbit the Hurr homeworld. Should the Vorlons refuse to give us control, we will land troops and free the Hurr."
"Will the Earth Alliance respond to this obvious act of aggression by the Vorlon Empire on one of mankind's military allies? If Alshain's treaties are worth the paper they are written on, he will immediately divert the task force in Nocalo into the Hurr system. I do not expect this of course... I expect the Earth Alliance to dilly dally and press for a diplomatic solution, but the facts speak for themselves. The Hurr are enslaved and Alshain rejected Corporate requests to move a protection fleet into Hurr space. The blood of the dead Hurr are on your hands now Alshain."
ISN News Room
We have analyzed and authenticated tapes leaked to us from a confidential source. The following tapes were recorded several months ago and depict President Alshain having a conversation with Corporate President Marxis. In it Marxis appears to ask for intervention in the Hurr system, and Alshain refuses.
So there you have it. Analysis and commentary to follow...Tape of Marxis putting on a pin lapel camera then a cut to the lapel camera facing the President of the Earth Alliance. wrote:"You also have to order the Earthforce ships in Nocalo to replace the corrupt government of the Hurr Republic."
"If you don't know, the aliens known as the Vorlons have constructed a ship twice as massive as even the largest human ships. The aliens are killing each other, and we have a chance to take advantage. You have ships in the Nocalo system Mr. President. Use them. Annex the Hurr Republic in the name of safety. Not too long ago there was a Minbari warfleet heading for Dilgar space. The more breathing room we have, the better."
"You do not like me Mr. President, but when it comes down to it you and your ilk will sleep at night because people like me are willing to do the dirty work. If it wasn't for the Corporate Sector's illegal shipyard expansion, Earthforce would be a cargo service instead of a navy. We both have the same interests--the safety and security of mankind. But I have a more glorious vision Mr. President, of a thousand year reign of mankind in the stars. Take advantage and secure for future human generations the safety of the galaxy."
Alshain : "First, I cannot ethically justify an unprovoked invasion of the Hurr Republic. I've already gone on record as saying there will be no aggression against the Hurr, and we have signed a treaty with them. There is no present danger which would necessitate breaking our word to them.
Second, I cannot politically justify an invasion. The instant I issue the invasion order, you might well appear on ISN to denounce a President who goes back on his word and practices blatant hypocrisy by doing just what I've been admonishing the Corporate Sector for doing for the past few years. That's a political minefield I'm not willing to step into.
Third, I cannot even militarily justify an invasion. The Hurr Republic poses no threat to the Earth Alliance or the Corporate Sector. They're a stagnant, isolationist people who refuse to venture beyond their star system unless they can help it. If it's really security for humans you're interested in, the Hurr make for an excellent tripwire; any marauding star fleet is going to have to bludgeon their way through Hurr defenses first. And, should they make it past the Hurr, the jumpgate between Nocalo and Hurr space is a prime chokepoint; trying to defend Hurr would require splitting our forces between two jumpgates instead of one.
Finally, I cannot legally justify such a naked aggression against a foreign power. The Earth Alliance Constitution specifically requires the President to obtain Senate approval for any planetary invasion. If I go before the Senate and ask for their approval, they'll ask me why we should send our boys off to die on alien soil. And I won't be able to justify it."
Marxis quietly responds: "You could make it happen, if you really wanted."
"I'm sure I probably could. But I won't.
This President is not above the law."
Brian
"We'd like to see this evidence Marxis. The Hurr gave us their homeworld freely, without a single ship even entering their system. They have supported us throughout the conflict. There are no troops occupational troops on the planet and there are no ships there. Your suggestion that we captured an entire planet, from outside the system no less, and have managed to hold it while maintaining such a close relationship with the Hurr is ridiculous. In fact, we have the transmissions of the offer made by the Hurr from their ruling body. Moreover, I'd like to ask the Hurr ambassador his position. Since his government did actually give us that planet I'm certain they'll back up our story, because it's the truth. The Hurr are one of the Vorlons closest allies.
Please Marxis, show us this 'evidence' of yours that contradics the Hurr leaders. Please tell us how we took over a planet without a single ship in the system and held it, all the while at peace with it's former owners, for eight months while it was totally undefended.
This is nothing more than a ploy to justify your military action. You're actually using your alleged desire for peace as justification for war, even though there is currently no conflict.
Even if there was a conflict between us and the Hurr, and there wasn't, what justification would there be for your interference? The Hurr have not asked for help, because they are not unhappy. Even if there was a war, which there wasn't, no one has elected the Corporate Sector the galactic police. One finds it interesting that your 'noble' goals coincide with huge profit. As I said, that planet has been a jump away from you for a long time, and now, after almost nine months and all this we're suddenly occupying them? The planet is peaceful, in fact the mood is jubilant down there.
We freely encourage the press to go there and see this 'occupation'. We offer unlimited access. We have nothing to hide."
Please Marxis, show us this 'evidence' of yours that contradics the Hurr leaders. Please tell us how we took over a planet without a single ship in the system and held it, all the while at peace with it's former owners, for eight months while it was totally undefended.
This is nothing more than a ploy to justify your military action. You're actually using your alleged desire for peace as justification for war, even though there is currently no conflict.
Even if there was a conflict between us and the Hurr, and there wasn't, what justification would there be for your interference? The Hurr have not asked for help, because they are not unhappy. Even if there was a war, which there wasn't, no one has elected the Corporate Sector the galactic police. One finds it interesting that your 'noble' goals coincide with huge profit. As I said, that planet has been a jump away from you for a long time, and now, after almost nine months and all this we're suddenly occupying them? The planet is peaceful, in fact the mood is jubilant down there.
We freely encourage the press to go there and see this 'occupation'. We offer unlimited access. We have nothing to hide."
Dragon Clan Veritech
Press Room
"Immediately, all traffic to the Hurr system will be closed. In two standard months the Hurr homeworld will be blockaded, and in three standard months we will liberate the Hurr homeworld. After the liberation we will give the planet back to the rightful rulers of the Hurr Republic. The Hurr Republic is now a Corporate protectorate as defined under Section One Article Three of the Felgercarb Act. The Vorlons have somehow compromised the primary Hurr datanet and caused all automated Hurr transports to funnel resources into the Vorlon's distant empire. We will not allow the Hurr to be enslaved."
"What of the Vorlon Ambassador's explanation?" said a reporter.
"I do not know. I don't listen to war criminals," said Marxis. "But, since I know you won't stop asking me until I comment, I've overheard the Vorlon Ambassador's ridiculous explanation on my favourite news channel. No sentient race would knowingly give the command codes of their homeworld defenses and military installations to an alien power halfway across the galaxy. Our scientists have determined the Vorlons most probably uploaded a virus into the Hurr datanet and took advantage of a failure in artificial intelligence. The Hurr are far more reliant on automation than other star nations. That's probably why we haven't heard a peep from them."
Brian
"Immediately, all traffic to the Hurr system will be closed. In two standard months the Hurr homeworld will be blockaded, and in three standard months we will liberate the Hurr homeworld. After the liberation we will give the planet back to the rightful rulers of the Hurr Republic. The Hurr Republic is now a Corporate protectorate as defined under Section One Article Three of the Felgercarb Act. The Vorlons have somehow compromised the primary Hurr datanet and caused all automated Hurr transports to funnel resources into the Vorlon's distant empire. We will not allow the Hurr to be enslaved."
"What of the Vorlon Ambassador's explanation?" said a reporter.
"I do not know. I don't listen to war criminals," said Marxis. "But, since I know you won't stop asking me until I comment, I've overheard the Vorlon Ambassador's ridiculous explanation on my favourite news channel. No sentient race would knowingly give the command codes of their homeworld defenses and military installations to an alien power halfway across the galaxy. Our scientists have determined the Vorlons most probably uploaded a virus into the Hurr datanet and took advantage of a failure in artificial intelligence. The Hurr are far more reliant on automation than other star nations. That's probably why we haven't heard a peep from them."
Brian
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"G'Kar...there has been a...terrible accident."
Someone had already beaten the aide to G'Kar: he was already watching the battle play out, watching as the Minbari attempted to recapture a world...only to kill literally billions of Narn citizens.
"How...how could they do...something like this?"
"By all accounts, the incident was quite accidental...but the scale is absolutely unprecedented."
G'Kar sat back, numb, trying to think. Trying to do anything. He desperately wished he could be there, back with his people, back to lead them through these dark times.
He made a decision. "Ready my ship. I am going back to the Mellitra system. The Minbari have a lot to answer for."
Someone had already beaten the aide to G'Kar: he was already watching the battle play out, watching as the Minbari attempted to recapture a world...only to kill literally billions of Narn citizens.
"How...how could they do...something like this?"
"By all accounts, the incident was quite accidental...but the scale is absolutely unprecedented."
G'Kar sat back, numb, trying to think. Trying to do anything. He desperately wished he could be there, back with his people, back to lead them through these dark times.
He made a decision. "Ready my ship. I am going back to the Mellitra system. The Minbari have a lot to answer for."
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"That's a very pretty speech Marxis but the Hurr are a space going people. They have numerous ships capable of sending messages, and the rest of the system is completely under Hurr control.
Your accusations are just that. And accusations are not justification for military action. Perhaps you haven't hear anything from the Hurr but I'm certain several others here have.
As you said, you don't know. This is a blatant attempt to drive us from legitimately acquired assets, all the while securing the same said assest for yourself.
Now why did they give it to us? What are the terms of our control? That's between us and them. Trade, on whatever scale, and we gave them a lot, between powers is not subject to review by the Corporate Sector or anyone else. Cooking up stories about viruses and secret infiltration, without a shred of proof, and then using it to justify military intervention is despicable.
Again, we invite ISN or any other news outlet to visit the planet we currently control or any of the neighbouring worlds. The Hurr, whatever Marxis wants to say, love us. The fleet of twenty five ships in orbit are all under Hurr control, as is the defense satellite network.
At the very least we call the council to condemn any military action until the Corporate Sector can explain how we conquered a planet without ships, held it without troops AND maintained such a positive relation with the Hurr.
Let me say this again, there are no vorlons, no one working for the Vorlon Empire in Qhadrant 27. We acquired access to the Hurr shipyards at great expense. Never the less, the interaction was not one of violence or subterfuge. It was simple trade.
We have negotiated with the Hurr in light of current events and they, as do we, find your willingness to shed blood over a trade distasteful. They have agreed to let us finish our construction, which will be done inside of the Corporate deadline. Then we will terminate our contract with the Hurr. We do not place profit above blood.
We hope the Corporate Sector finds this acceptable. We are not willing to shed blood over this."
Your accusations are just that. And accusations are not justification for military action. Perhaps you haven't hear anything from the Hurr but I'm certain several others here have.
As you said, you don't know. This is a blatant attempt to drive us from legitimately acquired assets, all the while securing the same said assest for yourself.
Now why did they give it to us? What are the terms of our control? That's between us and them. Trade, on whatever scale, and we gave them a lot, between powers is not subject to review by the Corporate Sector or anyone else. Cooking up stories about viruses and secret infiltration, without a shred of proof, and then using it to justify military intervention is despicable.
Again, we invite ISN or any other news outlet to visit the planet we currently control or any of the neighbouring worlds. The Hurr, whatever Marxis wants to say, love us. The fleet of twenty five ships in orbit are all under Hurr control, as is the defense satellite network.
At the very least we call the council to condemn any military action until the Corporate Sector can explain how we conquered a planet without ships, held it without troops AND maintained such a positive relation with the Hurr.
Let me say this again, there are no vorlons, no one working for the Vorlon Empire in Qhadrant 27. We acquired access to the Hurr shipyards at great expense. Never the less, the interaction was not one of violence or subterfuge. It was simple trade.
We have negotiated with the Hurr in light of current events and they, as do we, find your willingness to shed blood over a trade distasteful. They have agreed to let us finish our construction, which will be done inside of the Corporate deadline. Then we will terminate our contract with the Hurr. We do not place profit above blood.
We hope the Corporate Sector finds this acceptable. We are not willing to shed blood over this."
Dragon Clan Veritech
Press Room
"What of calls by independent NGO's for a meeting between you and the Vorlon Ambassador?" said a reporter.
"I can't say I'm surprised that the Vorlon Ambassador is speaking to me across the galaxy trying to get a straight answer. I've never set foot on Mesopotamia Six and I never will," said Marxis. "And if the Vorlon Ambassador appeared in Corporate Space... let's just say he wouldn't be going home in his encounter suit and would be immediately arrested for war crimes." Marxis pauses. "Anyway our response is the same. We will be bringing a super battleship into orbit of the Hurr homeworld. All Hurr ships infected with the virus will be destroyed, regrettably. We have received approval for this action by the Hurr exile government who we'll reveal shortly. If the Vorlons give the world back to the Hurr, there won't be any need for bloodshed beyond the destruction of automated defenses. If not... well, we can't tolerate an invasion of a neutral empire."
"I have received research from several prominent scientists associated with the Edgar Corporation on Mars that the Vorlons may have extreme telepathic abilities, unlike anything we've ever seen before. It's ridiculous that the Hurr would suddenly ship nearly their entire gross domestic product to the Vorlons for any reason whatsoever. It's possible that the Vorlons used some kind of telepathy to mind control the Hurr leaders. We'll find out when our men equipped with our own defense telepaths liberate the Hurr."
Brian
"What of calls by independent NGO's for a meeting between you and the Vorlon Ambassador?" said a reporter.
"I can't say I'm surprised that the Vorlon Ambassador is speaking to me across the galaxy trying to get a straight answer. I've never set foot on Mesopotamia Six and I never will," said Marxis. "And if the Vorlon Ambassador appeared in Corporate Space... let's just say he wouldn't be going home in his encounter suit and would be immediately arrested for war crimes." Marxis pauses. "Anyway our response is the same. We will be bringing a super battleship into orbit of the Hurr homeworld. All Hurr ships infected with the virus will be destroyed, regrettably. We have received approval for this action by the Hurr exile government who we'll reveal shortly. If the Vorlons give the world back to the Hurr, there won't be any need for bloodshed beyond the destruction of automated defenses. If not... well, we can't tolerate an invasion of a neutral empire."
"I have received research from several prominent scientists associated with the Edgar Corporation on Mars that the Vorlons may have extreme telepathic abilities, unlike anything we've ever seen before. It's ridiculous that the Hurr would suddenly ship nearly their entire gross domestic product to the Vorlons for any reason whatsoever. It's possible that the Vorlons used some kind of telepathy to mind control the Hurr leaders. We'll find out when our men equipped with our own defense telepaths liberate the Hurr."
Brian
"Those ships are under Hurr control, with Hurr crews. We've promised to end our contract. Will you really spill blood when we're doing what you ask, in the time frame you ask?
Are you really willing to kill for zero gain?
You honestly expect people to believe that, some nine months ago, the Vorlons, without a ship mind you, swooped it, took over the entire Hurr republic, exiled a government while keeping the pack leader in place and controlled every single ship and transmission out of the system and maintaining, whithout the presence of a single vorlon, system control, a jubilant population AND strong ties with the Hurr? All this without a single ship, let alone a fleet and not a single agent of the Vorlon government being present?
You want people to believe this extravagant story, which consistently has 'new evidence' being found to support your story over a simple renting of their shipyards?
As we speak the Stellarcom channels are open to Quadrant 27. The people are happy, as ISN will show when they arrive. Earthforce records and your own will show that no vorlon vessel has entered Hurr space in literally years, and the one ship constructed was immediately turned over to the Narn.
You cannot hide the fact that this is conquest by the Corporate Sector. You want us out so you can move in, cloaking your greed under the pretense of liberation.
In three months we'll conclude our business with the Hurr. Our rent on their shipyards will expire. We say again, we do not want any blood spilled over this. Allow us to finish our contract and let everyone live in peace."
Are you really willing to kill for zero gain?
You honestly expect people to believe that, some nine months ago, the Vorlons, without a ship mind you, swooped it, took over the entire Hurr republic, exiled a government while keeping the pack leader in place and controlled every single ship and transmission out of the system and maintaining, whithout the presence of a single vorlon, system control, a jubilant population AND strong ties with the Hurr? All this without a single ship, let alone a fleet and not a single agent of the Vorlon government being present?
You want people to believe this extravagant story, which consistently has 'new evidence' being found to support your story over a simple renting of their shipyards?
As we speak the Stellarcom channels are open to Quadrant 27. The people are happy, as ISN will show when they arrive. Earthforce records and your own will show that no vorlon vessel has entered Hurr space in literally years, and the one ship constructed was immediately turned over to the Narn.
You cannot hide the fact that this is conquest by the Corporate Sector. You want us out so you can move in, cloaking your greed under the pretense of liberation.
In three months we'll conclude our business with the Hurr. Our rent on their shipyards will expire. We say again, we do not want any blood spilled over this. Allow us to finish our contract and let everyone live in peace."
Dragon Clan Veritech
"Incredible," said Vera staring at the screen. There was a blob of black linked up to a video screen and a computer. "Send this data to Marxis right away."
"It seems the Vorlon Ambassador or his lapdog Lyta can't keep their mouth shut. As for being happy--there were reports of jubilant Narns under the Dilgar. Does that mean G'Kar should not liberate his people? The people are quick to please when there's a PPG gun to their heads. We have also acquired data of the Vorlon encounter suit. It is nearly invulnerable to PPG fire and our military experts say that a single Vorlon could probably kill thousands of infantry without bringing heavy artillery to bear. The Vorlons also have a small scout class vessel in the Nocalo system, sufficient for troop bays and several hundred troops. It obviously passed through the Hurr system on its way here. The ship is being intercepted as we speak and will be escorted out of Yolu space."
"Under pressure from non-governmental organizations we will immediately blockade the Hurr homeworld to prevent further exploitation. Troops will not land until the three month deadline expires. Against my own military advisors who have told me we should immediately seize the planet before reinforcements arrive from the Vorlon empire, I agree to the three standard month deadline. Not a second more."
Brian
"It seems the Vorlon Ambassador or his lapdog Lyta can't keep their mouth shut. As for being happy--there were reports of jubilant Narns under the Dilgar. Does that mean G'Kar should not liberate his people? The people are quick to please when there's a PPG gun to their heads. We have also acquired data of the Vorlon encounter suit. It is nearly invulnerable to PPG fire and our military experts say that a single Vorlon could probably kill thousands of infantry without bringing heavy artillery to bear. The Vorlons also have a small scout class vessel in the Nocalo system, sufficient for troop bays and several hundred troops. It obviously passed through the Hurr system on its way here. The ship is being intercepted as we speak and will be escorted out of Yolu space."
"Under pressure from non-governmental organizations we will immediately blockade the Hurr homeworld to prevent further exploitation. Troops will not land until the three month deadline expires. Against my own military advisors who have told me we should immediately seize the planet before reinforcements arrive from the Vorlon empire, I agree to the three standard month deadline. Not a second more."
Brian
Rai'Jal' expression soured as the Minbari account of what had occured over spite transpired.
He turned his head to face Delenn, and with words as cold as ice simply exclaimed.
"You are pathetic!"
"Do you really expect this council to sit here and believe that over 4 billion Narn civilians were killed by the debris from ten space stations!"
He faced the assemblage now
"Space stations that don't even exist!!"
Calming, he looked first at Delenn and then back to the council.
"But let us somehow suspend disbelief, and take the Minbari at her word. Let us assume, she is telling the truth..."
"The impact from ten light space stations, each weighing something near 500KT, would have nowhere near the force and spread to decimate that number of people."
"Now its possible, that because the Narn regime destroyed every form of building and infrastructure barring small remote vllages that the people, who are reduced to tent cities had no where to hide. No cover from such debris. Let us assume that your ships blasted every station into 500,000 pieces and that every piece killed a family of five narns. That is still only 25 million of the 4 billion deaths accounted for..."
"Care to revise your story Ambassador. No, do not bother. Simply your fleet, in their thirst for blood attacked the planet from orbit. The vorlon ships accompanying you racing to fire first upon the defenceless planet."
Again he turned to the assembled people.
"Observe the truth, of Spite' obliteration"
'No space stations, no debris. Just a coalition of Minbari and Vorlon ships waiting to prey upon helpless civilians. The truth that this demonstrates is that those;"
Waving past Lyta and Delenn;
"Butchers don't care who they kill."
"4 Billion dead Narns!"
"Well ambassador, it looks like you truly did save them. Saved them from ever having to bear witness to your treatery!!"
"LOOK! This is all that is left!"
He threw a folder at her place. It was filled with pictures of gouges in the earth, where the Neutron lazers had sliced through settlements. Massive disruption where the lightenig cannons had arced through villages. Even impact craters from the cluster bombs that the Sharlins were packing. Scattered throughout were the charred remains of countless bodies. Dead narns. Occasionally there were scenes of ground combat where the Minbari forces were three times repelled from the largest of the shanty towns.
"You disgust me. Ambassador."
With that he retreated to his seat. His face a mask of stone.
"The Vorlon empire, has recently given an offer of peace to the Dilgar confederacy. We have accepted. We expect no less than the withdrawal of their forces from Vreetan, Rhagesh, Quadrant 32, Koula, and Markab."
"We expect the same from the Minbari..."
He turned his head to face Delenn, and with words as cold as ice simply exclaimed.
"You are pathetic!"
"Do you really expect this council to sit here and believe that over 4 billion Narn civilians were killed by the debris from ten space stations!"
He faced the assemblage now
"Space stations that don't even exist!!"
Calming, he looked first at Delenn and then back to the council.
"But let us somehow suspend disbelief, and take the Minbari at her word. Let us assume, she is telling the truth..."
"The impact from ten light space stations, each weighing something near 500KT, would have nowhere near the force and spread to decimate that number of people."
"Now its possible, that because the Narn regime destroyed every form of building and infrastructure barring small remote vllages that the people, who are reduced to tent cities had no where to hide. No cover from such debris. Let us assume that your ships blasted every station into 500,000 pieces and that every piece killed a family of five narns. That is still only 25 million of the 4 billion deaths accounted for..."
"Care to revise your story Ambassador. No, do not bother. Simply your fleet, in their thirst for blood attacked the planet from orbit. The vorlon ships accompanying you racing to fire first upon the defenceless planet."
Again he turned to the assembled people.
"Observe the truth, of Spite' obliteration"
'No space stations, no debris. Just a coalition of Minbari and Vorlon ships waiting to prey upon helpless civilians. The truth that this demonstrates is that those;"
Waving past Lyta and Delenn;
"Butchers don't care who they kill."
"4 Billion dead Narns!"
"Well ambassador, it looks like you truly did save them. Saved them from ever having to bear witness to your treatery!!"
"LOOK! This is all that is left!"
He threw a folder at her place. It was filled with pictures of gouges in the earth, where the Neutron lazers had sliced through settlements. Massive disruption where the lightenig cannons had arced through villages. Even impact craters from the cluster bombs that the Sharlins were packing. Scattered throughout were the charred remains of countless bodies. Dead narns. Occasionally there were scenes of ground combat where the Minbari forces were three times repelled from the largest of the shanty towns.
"You disgust me. Ambassador."
With that he retreated to his seat. His face a mask of stone.
"The Vorlon empire, has recently given an offer of peace to the Dilgar confederacy. We have accepted. We expect no less than the withdrawal of their forces from Vreetan, Rhagesh, Quadrant 32, Koula, and Markab."
"We expect the same from the Minbari..."
"If you desire my position, alll you have to do is take it from my cold, dead hands!"
-Sebastian Shaw
-Sebastian Shaw