Revenge At A Price
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Revenge At A Price
You lie in the gutter, blood is pouring from the many wounds on your body, your mind is slowly seeping away into darkness along with your life essence in the miserable night.
It was probably inevitable, the attack that consisted of a gang of youths going in for what looked like an easy target walking the desolate city streets so late, and despite your valiant struggles, the yobs won with the aid of a few blades and a firearm or two. You couldn't tell, it was over so quickly, but it hurts like a fucker.
So as you lie there with no help coming, rain starting to pour down and minutes before you expire; you ponder one last act. In your shirt pocket is an autoinjector containing, what the friend who gave it you called, a G-Virus sample, something he hoped you'd never have to use. You know that, if you choose to inject yourself, you will be fully revitalised, your wounds will cease to be such a burden: you will live again to exact your revenge on the scum that are just streets away whom no office of the law will punish properly.
The catch? If you do so, your second chance and shot at getting revenge will destroy you more than any kick, stab or gunshot wound would. Your mind will slowly become one tracked and your body will cease being mortal. You will become a monster and the loved ones you want to be back with will never see you as you once were, though you will take care of those that ruined your life.
Which is it? Lie there and die with what little dignity you have, becoming yet another statistic of violent street crime with no real sense and knowing your loved ones will likely not feel justice done. Or, will you inject yourself, become that monster that threatens attacking more innocents, trying to reproduce via embryo implants in unwilling hosts and potentially put your friends and family at risk as more mutants come about, the best candidates being your own blood relatives.
This scenario is a play on what you'd do if in Dr. William Birkin's position in RE2 after being accidentally shot and left for dead, he used his creation to take vengeance at the cost of becoming inhuman and causing further "collateral damage".
It was probably inevitable, the attack that consisted of a gang of youths going in for what looked like an easy target walking the desolate city streets so late, and despite your valiant struggles, the yobs won with the aid of a few blades and a firearm or two. You couldn't tell, it was over so quickly, but it hurts like a fucker.
So as you lie there with no help coming, rain starting to pour down and minutes before you expire; you ponder one last act. In your shirt pocket is an autoinjector containing, what the friend who gave it you called, a G-Virus sample, something he hoped you'd never have to use. You know that, if you choose to inject yourself, you will be fully revitalised, your wounds will cease to be such a burden: you will live again to exact your revenge on the scum that are just streets away whom no office of the law will punish properly.
The catch? If you do so, your second chance and shot at getting revenge will destroy you more than any kick, stab or gunshot wound would. Your mind will slowly become one tracked and your body will cease being mortal. You will become a monster and the loved ones you want to be back with will never see you as you once were, though you will take care of those that ruined your life.
Which is it? Lie there and die with what little dignity you have, becoming yet another statistic of violent street crime with no real sense and knowing your loved ones will likely not feel justice done. Or, will you inject yourself, become that monster that threatens attacking more innocents, trying to reproduce via embryo implants in unwilling hosts and potentially put your friends and family at risk as more mutants come about, the best candidates being your own blood relatives.
This scenario is a play on what you'd do if in Dr. William Birkin's position in RE2 after being accidentally shot and left for dead, he used his creation to take vengeance at the cost of becoming inhuman and causing further "collateral damage".
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How easy would it be for the local law enforcement to cut me down after I exact my vengeance?
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If I'm dying, and have a chance to stop that, I inject myself. Later I'll regret it, but if I'm staring oblivion in the face, I'll come up with any rationalization and do it.
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I'd like to think I wouldn't, but this scenario throws rational thought out of the way. So soon a massive tentacled blob will start hunting down punks.
Did Birkin really understand what the virus would do to him ? I mean, he should, but from the cutscene I got the impression that he was counting on the regenerative effect to get him on his feet without mutating him.This scenario is a play on what you'd do if in Dr. William Birkin's position in RE2 after being accidentally shot and left for dead, he used his creation to take vengeance at the cost of becoming inhuman and causing further "collateral damage".
I don't want to die. I'm in pain; I'm not thinking clearly; and I have just been assaulted and murdered. I'm hot-blooded, want revenge, and will go to any length to survive. Once I kill the little gangshits, though, realizing what I will become, I'm not sure what I'll do. However, the immediate response is obvious.
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In reality I am dead either way. So I have a choice between dieing quickly and probably relatively painlessly (I would probably be in too deep of shock by this point to feel much pain), or die slowly and agonizingly, watching helpessly as everything I am is gradually destroyed and I begin to destroy other innocent people just as I myself had been destroyed. Not only would I die, but I would be responsible for crimes far worse than the crime I wished to get revenge for. I do not see a heck of a lot in it for me. So no, I wouldn't use it. It would enact a massive cost on myself and others while only prolonging my life by a very short time.
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It's vengence time. And, as long as I'm cogniscant, I make the effort to stay away from friends and family. Once the mind dies though, I no longer exist so what does it matter? I'm a roving meat puppet with an appetite for flesh.
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I'm going to ignore any answers about suicide after the fact, since that defeats the duality of this moral test. You either lie there and die pathetically, but normally, or you inject and open Pandora's Box. Self-preservation above altruism?
Notoriously difficult. The stuff you're injecting into you will enable you to take point blank 9 mm automatic fire without hindrance. That's the risk, you could do a lot of damage before anyone blows you to pieces properly, but at least it means the thugs that did you in will void their bowels after they've emptied their magazines into you.Darth Yoshi wrote:How easy would it be for the local law enforcement to cut me down after I exact my vengeance?
I doubt he did, but even if he did know, he weighed up the consequences of not doing it in a second and went ahead. You've just had your life's work stolen by those that have hounded you for years keeping you from a spot on the board. Even with a wife and kid nearby, would you let those soldiers get away and let the fat cats have their money making product?Bounty wrote:
Did Birkin really understand what the virus would do to him ? I mean, he should, but from the cutscene I got the impression that he was counting on the regenerative effect to get him on his feet without mutating him.
I'm going to ignore any answers about suicide after the fact, since that defeats the duality of this moral test. You either lie there and die pathetically, but normally, or you inject and open Pandora's Box. Self-preservation above altruism?
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Well, that makes a significant difference. However, as I lay dying, my thirst for vengeance will undoubtedly allow me to ignore the fact that dozens of innocents will likely die. So I probably would do it, if I were in that situation.
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My humanity will mean nothing to be once it is lost. I'll have my vengeance for what they dared to do.
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No i would not.
Why? Because i have over fifty five years that regardless of the shit that was beaten out of me i plan on enjoying. Plus I know in my city there is an government funded orgenization of several thousand men and women in blue uniform with body armor, guns, badges and cars that will catch these Fuckers and let them rot behind bars. The fact that i am related to a high ranking Winnipeg Police Service officer makes this easier.
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Why? Because i have over fifty five years that regardless of the shit that was beaten out of me i plan on enjoying. Plus I know in my city there is an government funded orgenization of several thousand men and women in blue uniform with body armor, guns, badges and cars that will catch these Fuckers and let them rot behind bars. The fact that i am related to a high ranking Winnipeg Police Service officer makes this easier.
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I would wish very much that I'd been in the Crow universe or somewhere with helpful vampires, but in the end I'd probably end up taking the serum.
As they say, "where there's life, there's hope" - if I die, my story ends right there, whereas if I become the monster I'll at least be able to avenge my death and possibly hope for a cure (or that someone might put me down before I become too dangerous).
As they say, "where there's life, there's hope" - if I die, my story ends right there, whereas if I become the monster I'll at least be able to avenge my death and possibly hope for a cure (or that someone might put me down before I become too dangerous).
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Zor, I'm pretty sure you're actually dying in this situation.Zor wrote:No i would not.
Why? Because i have over fifty five years that regardless of the shit that was beaten out of me i plan on enjoying. Plus I know in my city there is an government funded orgenization of several thousand men and women in blue uniform with body armor, guns, badges and cars that will catch these Fuckers and let them rot behind bars. The fact that i am related to a high ranking Winnipeg Police Service officer makes this easier.
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As for me, its hard to say. In the state I would be in mentally at that point, I almost certainly would do it, but if I somehow was able to maintain a grip on logic, I'd probably try to stop myself. I can think of few things more abhorrent than losing my mind, especially if I hurt innocents in the process, even if I kill a few assholes in the process.
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I say no. I may be ashamed of the human race* but I want to at least show that humans can die with a little dignity instead of selfishly killing innocents for a minute's satisfaction. There are prices that are too high to pay.
*Looking back on the 2006 years of human history that I know about, my shame is not entirely unwarranted.
*Looking back on the 2006 years of human history that I know about, my shame is not entirely unwarranted.
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No. Revenge isn't important to me at all. I don't have that kind of personality. The only thing I'd be concerned with is those punks doing it to another innocent person. But even then knowing what I know about the virus and possibility that I'd kill many cops, vengeance means nothing. (Of course cops carry shotguns and depending where they could have automatic rifles, but that is besides the point, in Canada civilians are unarmed and I would possibly kill a lot of people before ETF (SWAT) came in).
I would probably have a pen on me and write on my arm the description of the assailants. Then I die.
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No. Revenge isn't important to me at all. I don't have that kind of personality. The only thing I'd be concerned with is those punks doing it to another innocent person. But even then knowing what I know about the virus and possibility that I'd kill many cops, vengeance means nothing. (Of course cops carry shotguns and depending where they could have automatic rifles, but that is besides the point, in Canada civilians are unarmed and I would possibly kill a lot of people before ETF (SWAT) came in).
I would probably have a pen on me and write on my arm the description of the assailants. Then I die.
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Can the purified form of this virus propagate through airborne transmission? If that's the case, I'd do it, because dying would most certainly lead to the discovery of the injector on my corpse and its subsequent analysis. This would possibly cause the infection of several other individuals, who would potentially be able to do far more damage than I.
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Well, for my very first post on SD.Net, I had to go in for the morality play. I also had to vote no - not necessarily because I don't want revenge, but because I believe that the big fat foot of Karma eventually boots us all in the ass. There is some truth to the saying that those who live by the sword die by the sword.
But that doesn't mean I won't go down fighting like a badger cornered in a cage. Venegence may not be mine, but I'll make sure I'm not the only bastard taking a ride in a meat wagon.
But that doesn't mean I won't go down fighting like a badger cornered in a cage. Venegence may not be mine, but I'll make sure I'm not the only bastard taking a ride in a meat wagon.
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