Seggybop wrote:I think the narf solution is still better at this point, since it allows use of more than XP SP2. I'm sure Apple will improve this shortly.
If I needed a new laptop, I'd go for Apple if not for their use of Intel instead of AMD64. Though with the rumours of them switching to AMD for laptops, perhaps this shall be rectified soon enough.
Except the narf solution has no driver support. No graphics cards or special hardware functions. No Airport support. No way to eject the CD drive without going to my computer and right clicking on the drive. No brightness control.
The only reason it's SP2 only is that the drivers are for SP2 only. I imagine you could use any version of Windows with Apple's solution but you couldn't use the drivers.
If I needed a new laptop, I'd go for Apple if not for their use of Intel instead of AMD64. Though with the rumours of them switching to AMD for laptops, perhaps this shall be rectified soon enough.
Actually, Intel's new line of processors (Yonah and the upcoming 64-bit ones) are IIRC much better laptop processors in terms of battery life and performance than any of Intel's.
I'd much rather have an AMD processor for a desktop though.
Praxis wrote:Except the narf solution has no driver support. No graphics cards or special hardware functions. No Airport support. No way to eject the CD drive without going to my computer and right clicking on the drive. No brightness control.
Take the driver CD produced by Boot Camp and use it on a narf install.
The only reason it's SP2 only is that the drivers are for SP2 only. I imagine you could use any version of Windows with Apple's solution but you couldn't use the drivers.
It's pretty rare for drivers to be SP2 only, though I guess that might be it.
Actually, Intel's new line of processors (Yonah and the upcoming 64-bit ones) are IIRC much better laptop processors in terms of battery life and performance than any of Intel's.
I'd much rather have an AMD processor for a desktop though.
The newest ones previewed from Intel are better, but we haven't seen AMD's new part yet. I trust that they'll be able to produce something even more impressive based on their track record. For now, the Turion is faster than the Intel processors for slightly weaker batterly life.
Praxis wrote:Except the narf solution has no driver support. No graphics cards or special hardware functions. No Airport support. No way to eject the CD drive without going to my computer and right clicking on the drive. No brightness control.
Take the driver CD produced by Boot Camp and use it on a narf install.
Frequently asked questions: Any Intel-based Mac
Why can't an upgrade version of Windows XP or a full version of Windows XP that does not include Service Pack 2 (SP2) be used for installation?
You would be required to insert your original Windows CD during installation, however there is no way to eject the first disc until after Windows installation is complete and the drivers from the Macintosh Driver CD created by Boot Camp Assistant Beta are installed. Important: Boot Camp Beta is designed to support only Windows XP Home Edition and Professional with SP2. The required Macintosh-specific drivers provided by Apple are only intended for these releases.
That only works if the Narf release is using...SP2. Same limitation.
Important: Boot Camp Beta is designed to support only Windows XP Home Edition and Professional with SP2. The required Macintosh-specific drivers provided by Apple are only intended for these releases.
That only works if the Narf release is using...SP2. Same limitation.
"Intended" rarely means "functional" with these. I've only ever seen one Windows driver that worked exclusively with SP2, and even then it was possible to convince it to operate on other systems if you switched around some files. I'll wait to see what happens when someone tries it, though.
Indeed if the reports that Turion is simply the choice of Althon 64's what can work at such voltages of 25~35W then I can't imagine their yeilds being too high, since if I am not mistaken the Athlon 64's were designed mostly for ~60W at least. Much better to have a custom design in such a case...
MariusRoi wrote:The Problem is that I want to be able to read all of my data from both OSs, without using FAT or FAT32.
I think the nearest you'd be able to come to this is by creating a third partition with FAT32 to store and share your user data. Microsoft are never going to release enough data on NTFS to let MacOS write to its partitions.
It's really about the open-source NTFS drivers successfully reverse-engineering the format.
And for the record, you can buy HFS+ drivers for Windows.
Seggybop wrote:If I needed a new laptop, I'd go for Apple if not for their use of Intel instead of AMD64. Though with the rumours of them switching to AMD for laptops, perhaps this shall be rectified soon enough.
Uh ... what rumors? They're just getting comfortable in their partnership with Intel. Why in hell would they switch to AMD? Intel's mobile roadmap is far, far more promising, and they've already delivered the CoreDuo chips.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:Yeah I'm going to wait until they get the next generation of processors into their powerbooks before I buy one.
Next revision should be 64-bit as well
Less than a day, and someone's already blue screened a Mac.
That's just so sad.
Odds are that was caused by a faulty Apple driver. Windows XP is actually very stable; the only blue screens I have ever seen on it are caused by bad 3rd party drivers (usally graphics) or failing hardware, neither of which are Microsoft's fault nor are proof that Windows is an inferior operating system.
It could be a hardware problem. I had a damaged powerbook that kernel paniced because the Airport card was loose- jar it a tad and the hardware would slip out of place, and *bzap* kernel panic.
Apple replaced it, because the case had warped from the common powerbook warping defect before I had dropped it, and they were nice enough to just fix everything.
Seggybop wrote:If I needed a new laptop, I'd go for Apple if not for their use of Intel instead of AMD64. Though with the rumours of them switching to AMD for laptops, perhaps this shall be rectified soon enough.
Uh ... what rumors? They're just getting comfortable in their partnership with Intel. Why in hell would they switch to AMD? Intel's mobile roadmap is far, far more promising, and they've already delivered the CoreDuo chips.
So.... If I got this, would it mean I could play all those Windows only computer games?
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I'm not too sure about this decision. Sure the hardcore people will go for it but what about your average joe?
I believe the idea is so you can boot to windows for games, but what average person is gonna keep switching (and booting) different OS's everytime they feel like playing a game? They'll just start using windows all the time.
Soon they'll start asking why they are paying more for the hardware that they can get from a whitebox dealer for less? I doubt the 'mac look' will mean too much as nice looking monitors and cases are everywhere in pc land now.
It might change with the virtualization within the cpu coming, they may sell more macs in the sort term, but i'm not sure it will work in the long run.
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atg wrote:I believe the idea is so you can boot to windows for games, but what average person is gonna keep switching (and booting) different OS's everytime they feel like playing a game?
I am right now... but perhaps I'm not an average person
Soon they'll start asking why they are paying more for the hardware that they can get from a whitebox dealer for less? I doubt the 'mac look' will mean too much as nice looking monitors and cases are everywhere in pc land now.
At the moment, Apple makes the best laptop for the money.
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