The people commenting there where noting how american society is more religious even though it has separation of church and state and finland that has a state church is way more secular. Enter a huge moron.
There’s no paradox regarding religion in Finland. Consider how the tenets of the Lutheran Church have so completely infiltrated the Finnish welfare state. Rarely are the policies of the welfare state explained in terms of objective economic reasoning: the overriding justification is always a moral one.
Morality is always relative, except in Finland, where morality was shaped by one single sect of the Protestant tradition. This morality is equated as a universal truth, when it was never either universal, nor true.
Finnish interpretation of American religiousity is also predictably skewed when we remember the depth of Finnish anti-American bigotry. For example, rarely do Finns bother with the fact that the religious in America tend to be extremely divided amongst competing beliefs, - so much so that one sect could never possibly achieve the kind of unanimity that the Lutheran Church enjoys in Finland.
It is this competition between sects that insure that the US will always be secular. The same could not be said for Finland.
Yes people. This whole america is deeply religious is nothing more than finnish bigotry caused by the lutheran state church! Rejoice!
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Heheheheee, this guy has no connection to reality. Last posts:
Finnpundit wrote:“Fascinating display of Finnish bigotry and conceit.”
Captain Haddock wrote:Don’t forget the canadians, australians, swedes, norweigans, brits, germans, danes, french and other americans either.
Finnpundit wrote:It’s still all bigotry, orchestrated by European welfare state organs in tandem with media and academia.
Captain Haddock wrote:Yeah under no circumstances could they ever be correct. (about america being deeply religious)
P.S. Irony.
Finnpundit wrote:Of course they could never be correct. The European welfare states are founded on artificial realities. They couldn’t possibly exist without access to US markets that, generally speaking, do not have the same levels of complete protection. Those markets fund the welfare largesse that Europeans imagine are all due to their own work.
The perceptions of welfare states are furthermore forever shaped by an elite class of politicos, media, and academia who have a vested interest in sustaining the status quo, mainly because they mainly benefit from it, at the cost of European entrepreneurs, workers, and consumers.
Can't you just pull up statistics (which are often quoted here) that indicate that about 1000 people in Finnland actually go to church? We had a whole thread on how many atheists/agnostics each country had, and Finnland (as expected) was ranked higher than the US.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:P.S. I checked out his blog and not suprisingly it was some of the worst right-wing gobble gabble I had ever seen.
He smolders with generic right-wing rage.
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
I think you may have misread what he is saying. It's not that American religiousity is some bigoted fantasy. American's are more religious than Finns by most measurements that I've seen. He's saying that Finns have a misconception about the nature of the religousness. While Americans are more religous, there is no single overarching system of beliefs. Instead, there are hundreds of competing churches, synagogues and so on that insure that no single ideology ever becomes prominant. Hence we can have a very religous population, but seperation of church and state (although the exact extent of that seperation may be debated) by virtue of competition.
On the other hand, because the Finland has a state run church, that church has an overwhelming influence on how the government runs. As a result, there is less of a need for religion in the rest of life, because the State already functions under its influence.
That's my take on what he's saying. The other stuff he's saying is mostly crap, from what I've read.
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No I understood that but it was a bullshit reply from him anyway, it was also wrong, the different ideologies don't help shit and religion has far more effect on the US goverment than the finnish one.
Also his inane blitherings on finlands morality is just well that, inane blitherings. Finland like most other european countries has a foundation based on secular humanism and very little religious influence.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who did not.
