The Size of the Droid Army "Retconned"

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2006-04-14 07:23pm

Answering what? Show me!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2006-04-14 07:56pm

Agent Fisher wrote:Answering what? Show me!

Go to the live journal. VT posted this a little while ago.

+http://karentraviss.livejournal.com/280 ... 4#t4811924

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-04-14 08:10pm

The problem everyone has with the idea of this conflict is that they think it was a war. It wasn't - It was a con-job, with all the right props, straight men, foils, everything needed, and an entire galaxy in which to launder the numbers.

Thats what the dark moose guy is arguing about the clone wars. My emphasis.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-04-14 08:23pm

Could some one please tell me how to read the threads over at LiveJournal, its just a jumbled mess to me. Probably just me but still...

EDIT: Nevermind, think i got the hang of it.

Its not as easily placed out as most of the boards i've been to, like here or CBR or something.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-04-14 08:32pm

Anywho, just read through this DarkMoose's stuff a little.

Most...the vast majority...of what he says is the most bald faced, blatant kind of BULL i've ever seen. Like what A-Wing Slash quoted, just as an example.

"Everyone thinks the Clone Wars was a war bit it wasn't!"

Really. Thank you for explaining that. I understand though in real life we always name something a war when it's just a con job. Like the Enron Wars. Or the Martha Stewart Wars.

And oh God...you should just be glad you weren't around during the Microsoft Wars, we were beating ecah other to death with our own severed limbs! to quote Jason X

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2006-04-14 09:40pm

Karen Traviss threatens us with death, again.

Karen Traviss wrote:My gut reaction is that they all need garotting

Xess · Post by **Xess** » 2006-04-14 10:57pm

Master of Ossus wrote:Karen Traviss threatens us with death, again.

Karen Traviss wrote:My gut reaction is that they all need garotting

What post did she say that in? I can't find it on her blog.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-04-14 11:05pm

Xess wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Karen Traviss threatens us with death, again.

Karen Traviss wrote:My gut reaction is that they all need garotting
What post did she say that in? I can't find it on her blog.

The last line of her main post.

Xess · Post by **Xess** » 2006-04-14 11:13pm

Noble Ire wrote:
Xess wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Karen Traviss threatens us with death, again.

What post did she say that in? I can't find it on her blog.
The last line of her main post.

Thanks. *vent at self*How in the hell did I miss that.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2006-04-15 03:11am

Incidentally, I think I may have triggered a mini-paradigm shift on TFN just by reposting her comments over there. Some people seemed pretty shocked.

Fire Fly · Post by **Fire Fly** » 2006-04-15 04:19am

How come there's only 24 pages now on the TF.net board?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-15 04:21am

Fire Fly wrote:How come there's only 24 pages now on the TF.net board?

I think it has to do with your board settings. It has been consistent for me.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-15 05:29am

Replied to DM again.

Niceness still holding up.

Even mentioned the fact that the DK line of books is higher up on the "canon scale" so I don't have to accept this "retcon" as absolute.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-04-15 05:39am

VT-16 wrote:Replied to DM again.

Niceness still holding up.

Even mentioned the fact that the DK line of books is higher up on the "canon scale" so I don't have to accept this "retcon" as absolute.

I would more focus on it not being an objective source than referring to the canon scale broadly. Characters, and their interpretations of things, can be wrong.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-15 05:55am

I did mention that DK books were written in an OOU manner, without any bias for either side.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-15 07:18am

Did I just respond to Ryan Kaufman just now? (Jedi Haiku) I think I did! 8D

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2006-04-15 07:21am

A-Wing_Slash wrote:
The problem everyone has with the idea of this conflict is that they think it was a war. It wasn't - It was a con-job, with all the right props, straight men, foils, everything needed, and an entire galaxy in which to launder the numbers.
Thats what the dark moose guy is arguing about the clone wars. My emphasis.

Must have been a hell of a non-war to leave entire worlds burned and the Jedi Order badly depleted and vulnerable.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-15 07:31am

jedi_haiku wrote:The approval of the Insider 84 GGAR by LFL means 3 million is the approved number. End of story.

Don't care what I said before.

And so he contradicts his earlier statement ("LFL was very clear to us that no fixed number of total clones would or could be assigned") by adhering to a fixed number and he "doesn't care" that he said that...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-15 07:44am

Pointed that out in my response to him.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-15 07:57am

VT-16 wrote:Pointed that out in my response to him.

Yeah, I hadn't updated the thread so I missed that. I read your response after I had posted.

I wonder if that "jamesgilmer" is the same person that posts under a similar name over at the GS. The latter joined a few weeks ago and has posted in a single thread (the Triple Zero thread) and in the "defense" of Traviss.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-04-15 07:59am

Where is this discussion taking place? I know the one on TFN, but... where else?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-04-15 08:06am

Vympel wrote:Where is this discussion taking place? I know the one on TFN, but... where else?

Her livejournal page.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-04-15 08:14am

Pfft. Livejournal is incomprensible mess to me. I can't see anything in there.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-04-15 08:27am

Vympel wrote:Pfft. Livejournal is incomprensible mess to me. I can't see anything in there.

Agreed. It took me forever to even find some of the posts. Whoever set that system up was on crack or something.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-15 08:40am

It's hard, but I've tried to follow the downward motion of the threads.

Gotten quite a few nice statements from that. Not bad. :)

And, Ender, if that is you on there, you're not helping. Don't give them more reasons to handwave your arguments away. That bit with referring to her former job was especially moronic. Tactics, man, use proper tactics!