ROTJ mystery ship needs a profile (WTS? on Hyperspace)

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-16 11:48am

If there's anyone with Hyperspace interested, they've got one of the ROTJ mystery ships on the What's the Story competition.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ROTJ_BG_Ship

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-16 11:59am

I'm not a HS member anymore and I haven't got anything off-hand, but it should be possible to scale the ship somewhat accurately based on the picture Dr. Saxton has on his site (Curtis Saxton mistook the mystery ship for a corvette during the fleet gathering scene):

+http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/rb/mc10.jpg

EDIT: The mosaic could be helpful:
+http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/longmc80.jpg

A quick and dirty scaling of the "mystery ship" against the Home One yielded a length of ~170 meters. Of course, the ship is closer to the "camera" than the Home One.

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2006-04-16 12:15pm

Wookiepedia published Hyperspace materiel? Might get in trouble for that.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-16 01:26pm

I'm not sure how these individual images count. They've been adding them for every new entry in the competition since it started.

Most images on SW Wiki are edited anyway, no matter where they come from.

EDIT: And of course, this image will appear on the regular databank once its published. Heck, the side-view's already seen in the film, as is the front.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-04-16 02:36pm

How could no one have noticed this for all these years?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-16 03:02pm

18-Till-I-Die wrote:How could no one have noticed this for all these years?

Bob Brown had a page on this for some years (the page's dated 1996):

Archived Y-Head Corvette

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-04-16 05:15pm

Goddamn it. They'd better give an acknowledgement to Brown. They wouldn't know shit about it if it wasn't for him.

Fire Fly · Post by **Fire Fly** » 2006-04-16 05:21pm

I must say that this ship is ugly. It looks like a deformed dildo with horizontal stabilizers.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2006-04-16 05:26pm

Fire Fly wrote:I must say that this ship is ugly. It looks like a deformed dildo with horizontal stabilizers.

Hence the charm.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-16 05:55pm

All smaller non-wedge warships look like that.

The Carrack, the Dreadnaught, the Lancer, the Tartan etc.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2006-04-16 05:58pm

Lord Poe wrote:Goddamn it. They'd better give an acknowledgement to Brown. They wouldn't know shit about it if it wasn't for him.

Well what exactly do we know about it besides it appearing in two scenes and one jpg? I don't recall LucasArts releasing anything on these background ships besides that one image.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-16 06:09pm

I think Bob Brown found it and did some investigating into what kind of model was used.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2006-04-16 07:23pm

Wow, the famous "Y-head corvette." I hope the fanboys don't screw this one up. Anyone with a Hyperspace account should submit something good to lower the chances of that happening.

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-04-16 08:32pm

Jim Raynor wrote:Anyone with a Hyperspace account should submit something good to lower the chances of that happening.

I submitted something. Don't know how good it was, but it can't be as bad as the stuff some people will enter.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-04-16 10:22pm

Looks more like a prototype for a speederbike than a ship class. It does have some simularities with Corellian ships though, perhaps another type of freighter.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2006-04-17 06:30am

I would like to see an image of its back. From the VHS editions it is unclear whether the engines are vertically in the middle, or those hanging out boxes are the actual engines.
Personal opinion:
- smaller than a corvette ~120m
- retractable wings (extended during the battle, unknown prior to the jump)
- white engine glow
- no visible weaponry, but possibly manipulators
I think it is kind of a small repair or a "coast guard" ship.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-04-17 06:36am

vakundok wrote:I would like to see an image of its back. From the VHS editions it is unclear whether the engines are vertically in the middle, or those hanging out boxes are the actual engines.
Personal opinion:
- smaller than a corvette ~120m
- retractable wings (extended during the battle, unknown prior to the jump)
- white engine glow
- no visible weaponry, but possibly manipulators
I think it is kind of a small repair or a "coast guard" ship.

Try to scale it the way I did above. I'd say it's about the same size as a corvette. It also seems to have weaponry on the top of the aft section as well as on the sides (but it's hard to tell).

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2006-04-17 07:07am

Mange the Swede wrote:
vakundok wrote:I would like to see an image of its back. From the VHS editions it is unclear whether the engines are vertically in the middle, or those hanging out boxes are the actual engines.
Personal opinion:
- smaller than a corvette ~120m
- retractable wings (extended during the battle, unknown prior to the jump)
- white engine glow
- no visible weaponry, but possibly manipulators
I think it is kind of a small repair or a "coast guard" ship.
Try to scale it the way I did above. I'd say it's about the same size as a corvette. It also seems to have weaponry on the top of the aft section as well as on the sides (but it's hard to tell).

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/mcc.html#corvette
180 m as the top limit and approximately 70 m if it is as far as the Falcon (even less if it is closer).
Anyhow, either it is 15- 20% smaller or larger than a corvette, turbolaser barrels like those on a corvette should be visible. I agree on that that likely those are light cannons on the sides next to the head, I pointed toward the lack of heavier ones.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2006-04-25 07:43pm

It looks like an older model ship. The color scheme and style of stabalizers and the bridge look similar to designs around the prequels, if not older.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-04-25 09:26pm

A-Wing_Slash wrote:
Jim Raynor wrote:Anyone with a Hyperspace account should submit something good to lower the chances of that happening.
I submitted something. Don't know how good it was, but it can't be as bad as the stuff some people will enter.

Im curious what some of the "fears" are about the people submitting are?

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2006-04-25 09:31pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:
A-Wing_Slash wrote:
Jim Raynor wrote:Anyone with a Hyperspace account should submit something good to lower the chances of that happening.
I submitted something. Don't know how good it was, but it can't be as bad as the stuff some people will enter.
Im curious what some of the "fears" are about the people submitting are?

The submission being retarded, like making it kilometers long or having boatloads of weaponry attached to its tiny hull or being a Mandalorian Star Cruiser or something.

evangelion1 · Post by **evangelion1** » 2006-04-25 10:24pm

yeah i can just see some idiot saying that it has 12000 weapons on board or something like that. god that would be so annoying if that happened don't you think?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-26 05:16am

I fear for the future if they're going to start with EU profiles (heard something about that). Imagine the unnamed Byss warships being marginalized and pussified as much as possible. ("Despite being 4 times longer than an ISD, the Wankatronic-class Super Star Destroyer only has 1/3 its armament...") :P

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-04-26 10:23am

Don't you love this historical expectations of these people?

If it's an alliance ship, it can be 200 meters long and be able to take on an ISD and by 100 times better then anything the Empire has.

While naturally if it the Empier, despiter being 4 times the sized of an ISD, it has only half of it's guns.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-04-26 10:49am

There's plenty of retards out there who would prefer to have every single account of ships bigger than Star Destroyers be either a) artist-mistakes or b) abnormal monstrosities (because there's only one of each ever seen, like one isn't enough to qualify as a separate class

)

They believe there is nothing inbetween the Imperator and the Executor. (I even had Hodge try to suggest no ship-reactors were ever bigger than the ISD's. That explains why the Executor exist, then. =P)

Also, the Rebellion can't have ships bigger than 1200m or have anything big other than Mon Cal ships. Once again, the Bulwark-class was treated in any way but the obvious, that it was a huge warship which the Rebellion had a few of. I posted Dan Wallace's quote about it on its wiki-profile (the part where the Mk. I in NEC was just made small and downgraded due to the era, and that later models "Mk.III or IV" were the ships seen in Rebellion) to dispell this notion.

Wonder what its like in Hodge's backyard, the clusterfucked TFN Literature boards...?