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Then why were they excluded?God Fearing Atheist wrote:I know why you said it, Qwerty. What im trying to impress upon you is the absurdity of an exegesis that argues because some aspects of the Law were not mentioned in Mark 10, Jesus rejected those bits. That it is, in other words, a bad argument.Qwerty 42 wrote:The reason I said that is because, while Jesus did mention the importance of perpetuating the law, he altered them. The four commandments he missed in Mark 10:19 are the biggest ones, according to the Old Testament, where "thou shalt have no other God before me" is clearly more important than "thou shalt not kill."
There's also a general theme to the commandments, the four that were removed are plainly those related to belief in God. In other words, Mark's Jesus removed from the highest Jewish laws the notion that belief in God is integral to going to heaven. He even added a commandment.
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*Sigh*Qwerty 42 wrote:Then why were they excluded?
I already suggested one thing, Qwerty: the "power" of the "Ten Words," like the "power" of the divine name YHWH, precluded their being spoken in full. If you want other potential reasons, here are a couple from Markan commentaries I have handy:
Herzog (1999, pg. 163) writes that the exclusion represents Jesus' "commentary on the rich man's political faith." Like in Q (Matt 6.24 = Luke 16.13), the rich man is serving Mamonas and not God; the "idol" of ill-gotten wealth, not the Law and its giver. His gains are unjust and his actions keep the Sabbath unholy. His brazen reply shows he doesnt understand. Though he may not do those things mentioned, he fails to keep the others.
France (2002, pg. 402) writes that "the ξvtoλai quoted represent the second part of the decalogue, those injunctions which govern behavior towards other people, and which therefore admit of relatively objective assessment." Coveting is replaced with defrauding, as the former "does not so easily form part of a moral checklist."
Lane (1974, pgs. 366-367) writes that "the appeal to the commandments serves to reinforce [the] emphasis [on honoring god] and responds more directly to the question, What must I do? Jesus' response echos the OT teaching that the man who obeys the Law will live (e.g Deut. 13:15f,; Ezek. 33:15 and often)....The [quoted commandments] clearly and incisively focus on relationships with others as the discernable measure of man's reverence for God and obedience to his mandates. Jesus does not accept as good any other will than the will of God revealed in the Law....Jesus' summons [in the following verse] means the true obedience to the Law is ultimately in discipleship."