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HD-DVD Pr0n!

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Some guy took apart his HD-A1 player to see what it inside of it. The kicker is that it is a P4 2.5 GHz, 1 gig of ram, a custom OS running on a USB drive and IDE HD-DVD drive. All off the shelf hardware.
Upon hearing rumors that Toshiba put a 2.5 GHz Pentium 4 CPU and a gig of PC2700 DDR RAM in their new $500 high definition set-top DVD player, I was intrigued. When I heard that they also put in a standard desktop HD-DVD reader, I had to buy one and see if these wild accusations were true. So I called around and found that just about the last one available in Phoenix was to be had at a Best Buy on the edge of town. $560 later it was mine, and on its way to the surgery table for close inspection.

I quickly cracked open the box and without even taking time to plug it into a high def set conveniently located only 20 feet away, started taking it apart to see what was under the hood. Soon a friend of mine, Scott Cate, came over, screwdriver in-hand, to help out. We found out that sure enough, all the rumors were true.


Here's complete video coverage of the irreverent dismantling:

Click to see the 6 minute video of us taking apart the HD-A1! (20 meg WMV)

The HD-DVD drive we pulled out of the thing has a standard 40-pin IDE interface, and when connected to an XP machine identifies itself as “_NEC HDDVD HR1100A“, which is a recently-released HD-DVD reader that also reads normal DVDs and CDs.

When I put a HD-DVD movie in to try to see what's on the disc it just says “D:\ is not accessible. Incorrect function.“. Perhaps if I install Vista on the machine then I can see what's on these HD-DVD discs. Is it still VOB-ified or now something different under the new AACS copy protection? Or perhaps the new protection restricts you from even reading any data at all! Wouldn't that be a kicker.

At the very end of the video I got a little curious about the daughter card stuck on the motherboard, and pry it up for a closer look. Definitely that's where some interesting file system discoveries are to be found:


Overall it looks like it may be easier to get at the actual data than I had originally thought. The card is apparently a USB 2.0 device made by "M-Systems", and should be able to attach directly to a normal PC and act as a 256 meg flash disk.

The code on the M-Systems controller chip is "DOK T5" which stands for "Disk on key, 5th generation". It has a USB 2.0 interface. J101 on the bottom of the card looks just like a 9-pin motherboard-style USB connection, and once connected would probably be recognized as a USB flash drive. Perhaps if you put the code on it from the next model up, Toshiba's HD-XA1, it would upgrade it to have the multiple user interfaces offered on that unit.

Another idea: Wouldn't it be cool to put whatever is in this USB key on a USB-connected hard drive instead, and then see if the unit will boot and run that way? That's probably how they tested the thing during later phases of development when the AACS code was getting its kinks worked out. Note that there's a covered opening seen in the case next to where a USB connector was probably placed, and that opening would now make it very easy to run a cable into the unit and have a true USB connection hanging off the back side of this thing. Perhaps I'll connect a hub to it and try attaching a keyboard and mouse and see what happens.

Here's a forum post from a Danish guy who also cracked open his HD-A1.

Lots of fun experimentation to be done here. Well worth the price of admission. But honestly I'm still holding out for what the Blu-Ray camp has to offer because HD-DVD maxes out at only 30 gigs using its upper limit of 2 layers, and at 2 layers Blu-Ray is just getting started, offering 50 gigs of storage. 100 gigs is not too far away on the horizon in their 4-layer version, and in their back room a couple years ago they had tested up to 8 layers for 200 gigs on a disc. Would be interesting to know how far they are now with experimental versions of Blu-Ray. Now if Sony would only be wise and price the first players at $500 rathar than $900 then I think they would win hands-down in this new format war. At least they will be rolling one into every forthcoming PS3 which will probably be priced around $500.
The HD-DVD drive reads CD's and DVDs, and barfs up an error when they guy put an HD-DVD movie in it.
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geez...I expect the prices will go down rather quickly once they get dedicated HD-decoding hardware or cell-based players (since Cell is the perfect media decoding processor, and sucks for everything else).

That explains why the early players are so expensive.
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I'm expecting custom mass-produced ASICs instead of full-blown CPUs for upcoming HD players, and that'll probably drop the price more than cramming a Cell in.
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Interesting...looks like Professor Felten from my university is right again; whatever copy protection they used on HD-DVD will be fairly easy to circumvent by a resourceful dedicated person. Basing the system on a stripped down computer makes that process even simpler, shouldn't be too long until someone writes the how-to guide for copying HD-DVD discs.
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Post by Netko »

Nah, not a how-to guide but rather example code. After that it is only a matter of months before a consumer-friendly ripping program appears. Only problem being we're back in the situation of (resonably priced) consumer media (DVDs) being significantly smaller then the commercial media (HDDVDs). So unless you plan on buying a hard disk for every dozen of movies or so, reencoding to a smaller file (with the appropriate loss of quality) will be necessary. It will still be better then DVD, even if reencoded down to a single-layer DVD (4.7GB) since HDDVD uses a much more modern standard derived codec (mpeg4) and, as such is capable of compressing the video more with less loss of quality, instead of, at this point, really old mpeg2 in DVDs.
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Darn...and I thought this thread was about how much better pr0n would be with HD-DVD clarity.
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kheegan wrote:Darn...and I thought this thread was about how much better pr0n would be with HD-DVD clarity.
So THAT'S why it has so many views... :mrgreen:
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