STGOD2k6 Discussion Thread

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-24 01:12am

That's patently absurd.

So therefore the real sequence of events is: 1) War starts, 2) Big battle begins, 3) Diplomatic talks start, 4) Big battle ends, 5) News arrive as diplomatic talks are winding-up.

What the deuce? That's crazy. You just described the situation I'm advocating! The war started, now my admiral drops the attack he's currently launching, as the battle's underway, your diplomatic talks start, the big battle ends, and after that, news arrives of your presumed defeat as the talks are still winding down.

The affairs between the Silver Flame and the Mekidar, as just initiated with you in-game, will conclude after the forthcoming battle ends.

Unless, of course, you are describing the brief cruiser skirmish I just fought as a "Big Battle." If that was the case, you'd be even more off, as that engagement, launched very much on the immediate heels of my battlefleet's arrival (the earliest you could possibly have known of my move and sent a scout cruiser,) and considering the far greater distance your cruiser would have had to travel, would have transpired just as or before your scout was able to buzz my battlefleet.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-24 01:22am

That example was a hypothetical scenario, first thing that came to mind. It wasn't meant to directly describe the current situation.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-04-24 02:41am

That wasn't really what I meant...

Going way back to the early days of STGODing, when characters would get together it can sometimes take weeks for everyone to get their posts submitted, responded to, issue counter responses and so forth. This is especially true when there's a large number of people in one interaction. Waging war on someone may actually take more game time, but not neccessarilly more real time.

To use one of my favorite examples, an old ASVS moron known as Transcend introduced his invincible Taelon empire to the STGOD only to have it destroyed by a legion of belligerent rampaging drunks (me) within the first week (real time) of its inception.

So, if some other players were sharing an evening meal then his empire would have likely risen and fallen long before the meal was finished in real time. But in game terms, the meal only really lasted two hours, whereas Transcend's empire lasted a week.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-04-24 06:44am

Post away, the bit with the freighter crew was a little overdue. Hopefully the quotes make it obvious where in the timeline it belongs. The Iron Fleet should have a fairly good idea they're up against by now, their intelligence wouldn't be limited to what that one freighter crew are saying.

Illuminating a little bit of common history between the Mekidar and the people of Loch. What might be quite neat is every now and then if we try to piece together a history for the cluster. Minor consistency flaws could be seen as differing opinions from the historians.

I'm going to write something a little more detailed for the Loch/Antiga conflict and the rise of Conrad Saratov at a later date.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-24 01:59pm

It was because of one wise leader that managed to still the bloodlust of the new order so no vengeance was taken against the Pfhor, the slavers of Loch or the Mekidar that sold them to them.

Why, those ungrateful uptight little bastards. Here I thought the Fala'un where the only folks insane enough to think freedom is more precious than life. If you're alive you might get your freedom back, if your dead then you're permanently fucked. Of course, that is my opinion as a player. The modern Mekidar would most likely mention the point below and shrug their shoulders. "Guess it's a good thing reason prevailed."

His name was Conrad Saratov and it is said that he single handedly prevented a war that would have cost billions of lives, including that of the Mekidar.

Not only cost billions of lives, their vengeful zeal might have led them to utter ruin, and perhaps even anahilation. Pfhor Empire = Big Nasty Sons of Bitches.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-04-24 03:22pm

The Precursors/Masters/whatever you want to call them, believed it was better to die on your feet, then to bend a knee before a monster. I suppose that would be why no one has seen them in quite sometime.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-24 03:44pm

I'm not gonna lie, I have only the very faintest idea about how the Silver Age face of the Pheonix Cluster looked. Damn shame, because it's all tied up in little bits in everyone's history. We should assemble a "definitive text," though I for one believe that any stories of the Silver Age should be 10% fact and 90% legend.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-04-24 03:52pm

Thirdfain wrote:I'm not gonna lie, I have only the very faintest idea about how the Silver Age face of the Pheonix Cluster looked. Damn shame, because it's all tied up in little bits in everyone's history. We should assemble a "definitive text," though I for one believe that any stories of the Silver Age should be 10% fact and 90% legend.

It should also have significant holes in the history. No one knows what happened, because quite simply, the people who know won't tell, and there's no one else that knows.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-24 04:23pm

Thirdfain wrote:I'm not gonna lie, I have only the very faintest idea about how the Silver Age face of the Pheonix Cluster looked.

Well, for your nation it doesn't really matter. They have used the remains of an anciet civilization to rise to power, but are hardly a continuation of it. Since I got the opportunity to name the ancient civilization, perhaps I can borrow it for some backstory?

Part of my nation description wrote:Eventually, as the frontlines and theaters shifted, their worlds became strategically important. So it was that the Mekidar saw heavy fighting across their space, and many of their worlds were ravaged by war. Shrewd diplomacy saved them from a return to the Stone Age. They had picked sides as soon as the war drifted their way, and eventually they cashed in their chips. The Mekidar leaked important information about their "allies" to the powers that were in the best position to use it, then they began to leak misinformation and declared neutrality. The theaters of operations shifted, and the giants withdrew their fleets to different places that were now more important.

The allies* that got fucked-over could be the Arisians. It would explain why a power capable of making the very fabric of reality it's bitch got utterly wiped-out. Who the Mekidar betrayed them to, is another matter for another time.

*The word is used very loosely here. If they had been real allies, then the Republic wouldn't have back-stabbed them.

The Mekidar have pretty good records, but not complete by far. For example, there is one power that will not accept the Mekidar version of events. The player behind it won't either. His reply to my backstory proposal was, "As far as I'm concerned. None of it happened." Albeit that was after I inadvertently made an ass out of myself, his first reply was more polite.

There might also be disagreements with the Khar.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-24 04:29pm

Fine by me!

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-04-24 07:01pm

His name was Conrad Saratov and it is said that he single handedly prevented a war that would have cost billions of lives, including that of the Mekidar.

Not only cost billions of lives, their vengeful zeal might have led them to utter ruin, and perhaps even anahilation. Pfhor Empire = Big Nasty Sons of Bitches.

[/quote]

And look at them now.

I'm not gonna lie, I have only the very faintest idea about how the Silver Age face of the Pheonix Cluster looked. Damn shame, because it's all tied up in little bits in everyone's history. We should assemble a "definitive text," though I for one believe that any stories of the Silver Age should be 10% fact and 90% legend.

That's basically what I was thinking. As long as everyone has decided what was happening in their space then we can piece it together through collaberation and make it up as we go along.

Given that this should have very little effect on gameplay, it shouldn't matter too much if we get it wrong.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-24 07:17pm

Spyder wrote:
Not only cost billions of lives, their vengeful zeal might have led them to utter ruin, and perhaps even anahilation. Pfhor Empire = Big Nasty Sons of Bitches.
And look at them now.

That's because they had a gigantic war with the Khar, another group of Big Nasty Sons of Bitches.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-24 10:16pm

Stormin, that last post was directed at your explorer.

Stormin · Post by **Stormin** » 2006-04-24 10:19pm

Yeah, I am working out thigs with A L on aim atm. I will move on to you when I have that finalised.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-24 10:21pm

Roger.

Stormin · Post by **Stormin** » 2006-04-24 11:05pm

Okay, got you in on an edit. The contact is different than the others because it's an individual with experience with humans, rather than the Diem "government" which has no experience.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-25 01:12am

I have one of those feelings. The one where you are pretty sure that what you just said or did was either genious or so stupid it defies comprehension.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-25 01:31am

Time, oh sweet time. Will your ships have enough of it? I hope they don't arrive to find the situation decided- After all, the ships can run but the planet and the shipyardsw can't....

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-04-25 03:12am

My people's knowledge of the Lost Ages is, for the most part, quite lost. They know that they must have been transported to their new home. As an experiment, or for other reasons, no one knows. After a time, their Makers left them alone, for reasons of their own. A war? Or just to leave the place? After they left them, they started to develop themselves, though much is shady in those ancient times.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-04-25 06:09am

Glimmervoid and his eggs in one basket shipyards...

nick012000 · Post by **nick012000** » 2006-04-25 08:43am

So, what exactly is this? It looks like some sort of roleplaying or wargaming on this board, but other than that I don't have a clue (the cryptic acronym doesn't help, either).

Is it too late to join?

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-25 09:45am

Thirdfain wrote:Time, oh sweet time. Will your ships have enough of it?

Depends entirely on one thing. If the Flame retreats to the Lesser Library my ships will have plenty of time to help them in defending their homeworld. If they decide to make their stand in Talon then my force might arrive mid-battle. That is not to say that they won't arrive earlier, it's just unlikely.

nick012000 wrote:So, what exactly is this? It looks like some sort of roleplaying or wargaming on this board, but other than that I don't have a clue (the cryptic acronym doesn't help, either).

Is it too late to join?

It's basically a role-playing game with star nations. I think STGOD = Special The Good Old Days. It's origins are ancient and rooted in ASVS.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-25 09:52am

We'll see.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-04-25 10:41am

STGOD = Structured TGOD

TGOD = The Good Old Days

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-26 02:04am

Beowulf wrote:STGOD = Structured TGOD

TGOD = The Good Old Days

I was close. If anyone refers to the Age of Steel as "the Good Old Days" to any member of the Mekidar Republic, I have a nice little reply prepared already.

In regard to my own post:

-The "green system" is the Lesser Library, but the Mekidar don't know it. They just know it's inhabited, because the Boulder was hanging out nearby.

-The wonders of synthetic bodies... Wait until you see what is his reason for looking like a kid.

-Stormin, sorry I couldn't reply. I've been a bit too busy lately. Hell, I should be sleeping right now.