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Would you join the revolution?

Yes
30
61%
No
6
12%
I'd move to Canada
13
27%
 
Total votes: 49

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Uraniun235 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer secession of the Pacific Northwest into what would become known as Cascadia. :P
I wish we would. We're practically a different nation if you are talking mentality alone.
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I'd likely advocate integrating New England with Canada, if they'd take us, and if the US tried to stop it, I just might fight back. However, if the rest of the nation had become so corrupt as to allow Bush to do such a thing and not simply be arrested or faced with uncontrollable riots in every state and open resistance on every level of government, I wouldn't die fighting for them.
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Joe wrote:The military wouldn't necessarily be on his side, with the oath and all.
We would hope. I'm sure a big portion of the military would refuse the illgal orders (that's assuming they aren't fed a ration of bullshit, and know what's even happening and the real reason they are fighting) but you should never underestimate the amount of people in every walk of life who will gleefully do whatever their leaders tell them to do.
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Flagg wrote:
Joe wrote:The military wouldn't necessarily be on his side, with the oath and all.
We would hope. I'm sure a big portion of the military would refuse the illgal orders (that's assuming they aren't fed a ration of bullshit, and know what's even happening and the real reason they are fighting) but you should never underestimate the amount of people in every walk of life who will gleefully do whatever their leaders tell them to do.
If the terrorist attack mentioned in the OP were something incredibly extreme, like setting off an atomic bomb in NYC (also probably an impossibility, for now), then it might not even be as simple as that. If it were something that extreme, the claim that we needed a militaristic state to keep people in line might almost have some validity.
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Zero132132 wrote:
Flagg wrote:
Joe wrote:The military wouldn't necessarily be on his side, with the oath and all.
We would hope. I'm sure a big portion of the military would refuse the illgal orders (that's assuming they aren't fed a ration of bullshit, and know what's even happening and the real reason they are fighting) but you should never underestimate the amount of people in every walk of life who will gleefully do whatever their leaders tell them to do.
If the terrorist attack mentioned in the OP were something incredibly extreme, like setting off an atomic bomb in NYC (also probably an impossibility, for now), then it might not even be as simple as that. If it were something that extreme, the claim that we needed a militaristic state to keep people in line might almost have some validity.
Why is that?
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Flagg wrote:
Zero132132 wrote:
Flagg wrote: We would hope. I'm sure a big portion of the military would refuse the illgal orders (that's assuming they aren't fed a ration of bullshit, and know what's even happening and the real reason they are fighting) but you should never underestimate the amount of people in every walk of life who will gleefully do whatever their leaders tell them to do.
If the terrorist attack mentioned in the OP were something incredibly extreme, like setting off an atomic bomb in NYC (also probably an impossibility, for now), then it might not even be as simple as that. If it were something that extreme, the claim that we needed a militaristic state to keep people in line might almost have some validity.
Why is that?
If terrorists had access to those kinds of weapons, protecting the population from further attacks would be a strong priority. It wouldn't justify dictatorship, but fear does a lot to people. They may just think of him as a strong leader, trying to keep his countrymen safe by fighting off the terrorists. I didn't mean that it would actually justify such actions, but fear does strange things to people.
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Maybe. I would resist such actions.
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Flagg wrote:Maybe. I would resist such actions.
As would I. Hence marking "yes" on the poll.
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Post by Cthulhuvong »

I would definately join up a revolution, even though I've never fire a gun. I would fight everywhere I could, on the net (if it was still up and not restricted or watched), in print, in protest, and through violence when required.

If there was a unified force throughout the country trying to return the country to before the dictatorship then I would join them. If most revolutionaries are trying to push their own agenda or ideologies, I'd push for a new midwest country, or for the independence of my state, Illinois. Either way, I would not allow this country to fall into a dictatorship. The oligarchy we have now is as far as it goes.
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I live in Canada, and though I plan to soon join the Reserves, and I dide decide to die in the other thread where victory for Liberty was assured, I'm really a chickenshit coward. I can't see myself hopping the border to fight some guerilla war as much as me sitting here in Canada, striking off road trips for the food/ Superbowl/ Ghost Towns, and hemmking and hawing about what the world is coming to.
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Post by Darth Cronos the Proud »

I would only join the revolution if the new dictatorship didn't contribute positively to the US's economy, security, and safety. If it did contribute positively, I'd actually join the new government.

(I am aware that most, if not all, of the dictatorships/Totalitarian governments in history didn't contribute positively to their respective countries, so the chances are damn good that I'd be grabbing my hunting rifle and joining the revolution).
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Such a government could concievably contribute positively to security, safety, and the economy, while still fucking over your personal freedoms. Reference (yes I just violated Godwin's Law) Germany post-Hitler, pre-invasion of Poland. If you were a German who the Nazis didn't have a beef with, it was a GREAT time. :roll:
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I'd be entirely fucking useless as a fighter, but I'd like to think I'd risk incarceration to fight the war on a political front.
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Post by nick012000 »

I'm probably going to be joining the Australian armed forces soon, so if such a thing happened, which side I'd fight for would entirely depend on whether or not the US used the ANZUS treaty to call on our help.
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Post by Thunderfire »

Zero132132 wrote:This question is preferably for US citizens only, and it isn't intended to be a possible scenario, since I know that it's almost entirely impossible for someone to have enough political power to actually do what the hypothetical calls for.
Something like ProGov. from GURPS Cthulhupunk? Might be possible if the US faces a similar crisis and a scapegoat is needed.
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