How stupid can people get?

outcast · Post by **outcast** » 2006-04-30 12:28pm

The other day i was talking with a fundie creationist, and during the conversation, which as you can imagine was already filled with stupidity, the following gem came along:

"didn't dinosaurs get killed by the big bang?"

what....the...fuck.

anyone else ever hear people seriously make statements like this that are just so incredibly stupid that it makes you lose all belief in humanity?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-04-30 12:35pm

At least that guy's in the minority even for fundies. I find that the vast MAJORITY of them think that the Big Bang started with a "rock" which "exploded", and they think it's a devastating argument to ask who made the rock or what made the rock explode.

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2006-04-30 12:37pm

Mr. Wong had a Hate Mail that asked where the fuel for the Big Bang's explosion came from. That one gave me a headache just to try to comprehend the thought processes of such an individual.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-04-30 01:45pm

Heres a fun one.

"If the planet is really billions of years old, why hasn't rain and erosion worn it away to nothing?"

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-04-30 05:19pm

"If there was no Great Flood, how are there fish fossils in the mountains?"

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2006-04-30 05:36pm

"I there was no flood, the where did all the mythical creatures go?" That is a real one I was asked.

I KNOW!

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-04-30 05:41pm

"I'm the only one here with a brain!"

...

"So, you're a creationist?"

"Yeah. I don't believe the Earth exploded six thousand years ago."

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-04-30 06:49pm

outcast wrote: "didn't dinosaurs get killed by the big bang?"

Well at least he isn't using the flood to explain it

defanatic · Post by **defanatic** » 2006-04-30 11:01pm

Don't fundies say the darnedest things?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2006-04-30 11:10pm

defanatic wrote:Don't fundies say the darnedest things?

I lost track of that site ever since Winace stopped running it, but it's always a source of amusement and depression.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2006-05-01 08:07am

"What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
It was used as a criticism of the theory of evolution. Apparently he thought that it was a very convincing argument... I'll do like my old biology teacher and instruct him how to run fast into the nearest wall.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-05-01 08:13am

I once heard one fundie say, "time is the magic wand of the evolutionists." I said, "yeah but at least it's just a wand. Your entire theory is magic."

He didn't get it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-05-01 02:50pm

Superman wrote:I once heard one fundie say, "time is the magic wand of the evolutionists." I said, "yeah but at least it's just a wand. Your entire theory is magic."

He didn't get it.

Unlike religious magic, time is real.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-05-01 03:59pm

outcast wrote:"didn't dinosaurs get killed by the big bang?"

Even if he was just talking about the dino killer asteroid rather than the origin of the universe and just got his terms mixed up, what is he hoping to accomplish by pointing out that dinos went extinct? Thats one of the pieces of support for evolution, not creationism.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2006-05-01 04:01pm

"How could an explosion (the Big Bang) produce something beautiful?" was the one-off argument I heard from my first real life creationist. That is a fearsomely poor argument all around, really.

Sad thing is, he was quite a cool guy, disregarding his utterly stupid beliefs. The fact of the matter is, most people we'd consider monsters were/are probably alright to talk to, one-on-one.

As for faith in humanity, that's long gone, humanity's continued survival is not something I care about anymore, I'm just waiting for an apocalypse to bring out the best and worst in us.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2006-05-01 04:25pm

A Shep response would be that explosions are beautiful. All hail the mighty nuclear warhead! Cursed are thy non-proliferation treaties above all else.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-05-01 05:56pm

wolveraptor wrote:A Shep response would be that explosions are beautiful. All hail the mighty nuclear warhead! Cursed are thy non-proliferation treaties above all else.

Not just Shep. Show me someone who doesn't like fireworks. Thats precisely how Americans celebrate Independance Day.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-05-02 12:20am

Dooey Jo wrote:"What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
It was used as a criticism of the theory of evolution. Apparently he thought that it was a very convincing argument... I'll do like my old biology teacher and instruct him how to run fast into the nearest wall.

The egg, them reptiles were laying them long before the chicken came from the result of their natural selection. Now if you will excuse me, I have some raptor eggs to send to a corperate form serving KFC now....

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-05-02 12:22am

Darth Servo wrote:
wolveraptor wrote:A Shep response would be that explosions are beautiful. All hail the mighty nuclear warhead! Cursed are thy non-proliferation treaties above all else.
Not just Shep. Show me someone who doesn't like fireworks. Thats precisely how Americans celebrate Independance Day.

and others celebrate 5-Nov.

come to think of it, I now have a group of Rednecks up here who have decied to adopt Guy Fawkes day, as another excuse for a BBQ and setting things on fire/explosions.

Anomie · Post by **Anomie** » 2006-05-02 01:53am

Darth Servo wrote:
wolveraptor wrote:A Shep response would be that explosions are beautiful. All hail the mighty nuclear warhead! Cursed are thy non-proliferation treaties above all else.
Not just Shep. Show me someone who doesn't like fireworks. Thats precisely how Americans celebrate Independance Day.

Look at this and tell me it's not beautiful. Isn't it amazing that one of the most horrific weapons of mass destruction can have such a beautiful visual display?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-05-02 05:33am

Darth Wong wrote:
Superman wrote:I once heard one fundie say, "time is the magic wand of the evolutionists." I said, "yeah but at least it's just a wand. Your entire theory is magic."

He didn't get it.
Unlike religious magic, time is real.

I knew my attempts at explaining the difference between religious nonsense and science were futile, so I tried dumbing it down to his level. I guess it wasn't dumb enough...

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-05-02 05:50am

Here is a gem found on FSTDT:

"Lets get serious. You will believe a A FUCKING APE IS YOUR ANCESTOR. A FUCKING APE!!!!!!!!!! A PRE HOMOSPHIEN MAKES FOREST GUMP AND RAIN MAN LOOK LIKE ALBERT EISTEIN!!!!!!!!!

Doesn’t make sense. Evolution is stupid. You have to be a jackass to be evolution. Do you think man used to be a hairy, ugly, illiterate not so bright monkey lookin motherfucker.

Want to say to your kids ” this Ape used to be your ancestor.”

Get real… How does a retarded ape envolve to a human. Don’t make any sense. sOUNDS LIKE THE FUCKING TOOTH FAIRY!!!!

This is what I think, you have an ape, and a monkey.. Science is the study of.

You humans compare the ape and monkey to a human and put them together.

Scientist are misleading!!!! Will you let a ape do your taxes?? Can a ape drive a car??? Can a ape talk??? No!!!!!!!!

Caveman is a illusion… Its kinda like the missing link. A dumb hairy motherfucker who doesn’t know how to make complex decisions.

You guys need Jesus bad… You guys watch too much Discovery Channel.

Know this ATHIEST RELIGION IS SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION, SCIENTIST ARE ATHIEST, AGOSTIC, SCIENCE IS MAN MADE RESEARCH.

YOU GUYS DON’T BELIEVEN GOD BECAUSE SCIENCE DETERMINES YOUR DICISIONS.

SCIENCE IS BASED ON RESEARCH BY GATHERED EVIDENCE BY MAN!!!!!

SCIENCE IS NOT FACT!!!!

JESUS CHRIST THE ANSWER!!!!"

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2006-05-02 06:19am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:
Dooey Jo wrote:"What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
It was used as a criticism of the theory of evolution. Apparently he thought that it was a very convincing argument... I'll do like my old biology teacher and instruct him how to run fast into the nearest wall.
The egg, them reptiles were laying them long before the chicken came from the result of their natural selection. Now if you will excuse me, I have some raptor eggs to send to a corperate form serving KFC now....

The really stupid thing is that that question is a causal problem inherent in creation ideas (which did God create first?) and evolution is very the answer to it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-05-02 07:44am

Most anti-evolution arguments fall into the "explain to me how this works" category, in which you are made to assume the position of the teacher and the creationist assumes the position of a defiant student. Needless to say, you can't teach a defiant student anything, because he is not really listening to you. No high school teacher would expect to produce results under those conditions.

Notice how the vast majority of creationists never explain how the scientific theory works and then try to show what's wrong with it. Instead, they expect you to explain it for them, and they will pass judgment on whether they think your explanation was adequate. Thus forcing you to do all the work even though they are the ones claiming to debunk established science.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2006-05-02 07:55am

The thing I find most funny about the "explain how it works argument" is that it has become so common that many younger people just entering the creationism vs. evolution debate use it. Unfortunately for the creationists some of these youngsters are actually listening. Creationism loses a lot of its more intellegent supporters this way. For example, on GP4Teens, before it shutdown, I witnessed maybe 5 people who all went from rabid looney creationist to supporting views that were well though out, and highly defensible. It actually feels really good to make someone go from pure creationism YEC bullshit to divinely nudged evolution (ie minimal but existant divine intervention with overwise normal biological evolution playing out).

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