STGOD2k6 Discussion Thread

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2006-04-26 10:53pm

Hmmn, is Raxmei still active in this STGOD?

Stormin · Post by **Stormin** » 2006-04-29 12:48am

Does the monthly increase in forces stack with previous months or is it just 10% of your starting points?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-04-29 03:00am

Starting points. Stacking would denote increments in infrastructure which we don't really have a model for at the moment.

Good point though, we'll bring it up at the next revision.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-29 03:39am

Spyder, if possible, I'd like to talk to you on AIM before you make your next reply to me.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-29 01:41pm

I'm sorry for not posting lately, I've been busy... Later today or tomorrow at the latest, I'll be getting up to date and fulfilling my responsibilities.

K, peace.

-edit-

PS: Adrian, old son- let's dance.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-29 03:35pm

Thirdfain wrote:I'm sorry for not posting lately, I've been busy... Later today or tomorrow at the latest, I'll be getting up to date and fulfilling my responsibilities.

Ideally, you'd post after I can work with Spyder's on the Flame's reply to the arrival of the Mekidar. In the mean-time, I'll add something for you to reply to in Talon.

PS: Adrian, old son- let's dance.

Hard beams, torpedoes, and clouds of missles vs. guns, torpedoes, and clouds of bullets.

Sounds like fun!

BTW - What do people think of my ship names? In the Mekidar Spacy each ship is named by its first captain. Some captains let the officers and/or crew vote on it, some take suggestions. Others just pick a name and slap it on the hull without asking anyone for permission or advice. One exeption, the name ship of a particular design does need to be approved by the higher-ups. I mean, how retarded would it be to have a Coward-class Destroyer? Or a Scared Shitless-class Carrier Cruiser?

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-29 05:03pm

Made a new to make sure people take notice.

I've updated my last post in the Main Thread. While the war is basically a foregone conclusion, as I doubt Thirdfain will change his mind (though it would be nice if he did), I gotta keep things in character. The new part is between the Diem - Republic negotiations and the happenings in the Lesser Library.

Now, if only I could get ahold of Spyder all would be well.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-29 05:16pm

PS: I figure that I have at least a couple hours before your most recent post comes true, seeing as you are transitting all the way from your home.

And, some of our ships have the same name! Take your DD-46 Valiant, as opposed to my BB-197 ICNS Valiant, a dreadnought Battleship of the Mayor Radaghast VII class.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-29 07:13pm

Thirdfain wrote:PS: I figure that I have at least a couple hours before your most recent post comes true, seeing as you are transitting all the way from your home.

My four fleets began to move when I posted: "The Assembly decided that something must be done. The wheels of fate began to turn, where they lead still unknown. The Shrine of Brilliance? Or the Halls of Immense Stupidity."

This occured as a direct result of the Flame's response to my offer of protection: "This is Silver Flame space. The red system is the location of the Arisian fleet. The green one is our destination." The fleet had already been en-route for a while.

I honestly don't think that you could negociate surrender terms and get a ship over to the Lesser Library before my forces arrive.

There are also three other fleets on the way, but they haven't gotten there because they were not put on deployment alert when the Republic learned of Crobuzon's attack on its neighboor. Preparing fleets for deployment takes time. I was going to have it mentioned in what I hoped to be a post co-written between Spyder and me, where the forces of the Silver Flame and the Mekidar Republic get ready for battle and stuff.

And, some of our ships have the same name! Take your DD-46 Valiant, as opposed to my BB-197 ICNS Valiant, a dreadnought Battleship of the Mayor Radaghast VII class.

Apparently your Valiant would kick my Valiant's ass. But I bet I'm the only one with ships named after forum members! Like Insane Railgunner, that one should be in the 3rd Fleet.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-29 07:19pm

Your four fleets had to cover a quarter of the Sphere, and the meeting with the Boulder was maybe 24 hours ago. Your offer of protection didn't even arrive until my fleet was already en route to Talon, a journey of minutes or hours at best.

Since your scout buzzed the Iron Fleet, you've had to:

1. Organize your legislature for the decision to help the Silver Flame, something you yourself said took a full day

2. Fly your fleets across a quarter of the sphere

3. of course, negotiate with Spyder.

All I had to do was move over 1 system and demand surrender.

I do believe I'm in position by the time your fleets arrive.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-29 08:24pm

I said the legislature thing took, "the better part of a day". Not "a day" or "almost a day". Boulder gave the offer of protection. Negotiations can last very little time. Particulary if when Asdvadz touches down and starts giving orders they shut-up and obey.

Stupid time, always working against me. I can't have a party by myself, those forces that just surrendered are fucking vital. Without them I might have to resort to running like hell, and apoligizing to Crobuzon for our insolence. There'd be no dancing then.

We'll see what Spyder has to say about it. In all probability at least one of us is going to have to do some editing.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-29 10:44pm

That's ok, the better part of a day plus what, two, three days in transit for your fleet gives me all the time I need for the surrender to come through and my forces to come into position.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-29 10:47pm

PS, I'll post the rest later- it may turn out to be moot- but the Crobuzon/Silver Flame peace treaty is as follows:

1. Rights for a couple of Crobuzon bases on quelectin worlds
2. Unrestricted commerce and trade between Crobuzon and the Silver Flame
3. The fortress (200 pt stationary) over the Lesser Library to be broken up.

Maybe others, but besides the bases, there'll be no occupation, and the Silver Flame military and gov't are not being changed.

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2006-04-29 11:47pm

Rumors of my death are quite accurate but neglected to include my ressurection.

That is, I haven't left the STGOD. I just forgot it existed for a week or so. Will catch up and rejoin the much more interesting political climate soon.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-30 02:10am

Thirdfain wrote:PS, I'll post the rest later- it may turn out to be moot- but the Crobuzon/Silver Flame peace treaty is as follows:

1. Rights for a couple of Crobuzon bases on quelectin worlds
2. Unrestricted commerce and trade between Crobuzon and the Silver Flame
3. The fortress (200 pt stationary) over the Lesser Library to be broken up.

Maybe others, but besides the bases, there'll be no occupation, and the Silver Flame military and gov't are not being changed.

Bah, with so lenient surrender terms, I'd have trouble convincing Klingons to engage in a war that could easily cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Hell, the in character wants of my nation are coming in conflict with my wants. The Mekidar would find those terms perfectly acceptable and move to establish formal diplomatic relations with Crobuzon, I just want a big battle.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-30 02:12am

Hundreds of thousands? Try *millions.*

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-30 02:36am

I was thinking mostly of deaths aboard the warships, and not counting your marines.

Unless Spyder or some other mod speaks in support of my version of the chain of events, I'm gonna have to call off the war. It will be basically:

-Fleet jumps in
-FLAME: We surrendered, here are the terms. Pretty good no?
-MEKIDAR: Yeah, those are good terms.
-CROBUZON: WTF? Who are you? What's up with the war fleets?
-M: Oh never mind those. We thought you were gonna annex our neighboor. Since you're not going to, there is no need for us to tango. How about we send some diplomats and traders over so we can be friends?

*Grumbles about cowardly pussies*

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-04-30 12:22pm

Well, um, more or less I'm not sure how honest the Silver Flame are about this surrender thing; maybe they'll backstab? It's very possible.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-04-30 05:22pm

I think they'll stay surrendered so that Spyder can finally drop them and concentrate on his own nation.

If the mods don't mind I will update my post so as to reflect the real chain of events instead of the one I percieved. The changes shouldn't be major. A toning down of the beligerence in Boulder's transmission, or maybe the elimination of it. Asdvadz's transmisson from the shuttle will be changed to something more like "We're here, still want our help?", that way the Flame can say "We surrendered" and the Mekidar can reply "Oh, we thought they were annexing you. Sorry for the over-reaction."

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2006-05-01 05:20pm

Sorry for the delays. Damn real life.

Backstabbing sounds like a lot of fun but creates quite a bit of extra work for me.

I'll post soon.

Edit: I'm just going to accept the treaty. The Silver Flame can then stay as it is until Glimmervoid decides to return, if he does.

Incidentally, it's that time again, everyone that's been active gets 10% of their base value back.

As before, update the main body of your OOBs and don't forget to append a changelog at the bottom.

For example:

Additions April 06:

<ships added from april 1st bonus go here>

Additions May 06:

<ships added from may 1st bonus go here>

Income is as follows:

Minor: 200, Regional: 400 Major: 600, Grand: 800

Important note:

Even if your empire meets the criteria, any bonuses above the standard income must be cleared with mods prior to claiming. This includes additional income from annexed nations, expansion to a larger empire size and wartime economy. Links to relevant posts in the main thread when claiming bonuses will speed up the process.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-05-03 04:35pm

Well, I for one am not letting Spyder's absence slow me down. Dahak, 3rd Impact, we have things to go over in the Cluster center. Let's rock.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-05-03 05:06pm

... but later, I have a play to go act in

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-05-03 06:12pm

Thirdfain wrote:Well, I for one am not letting Spyder's absence slow me down. Dahak, 3rd Impact, we have things to go over in the Cluster center. Let's rock.

We have

And when you go over posts to write, kindly consider the friendly reminder of a task force heading your way to pick up some Crobuzon military for a campaign *g*

I'll try to be online on AIM tomorrow afternoon/evening.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2006-05-04 12:34pm

Ok, updated OOB. Relatively straightforward, since the Avalonians are neither at war nor do they have any protectorates that would grant any bonuses.

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2006-05-04 08:10pm

Do I count as here for the purposes of expansion? I have been present and am aware of current events but am extremely busy this week and cannot post. I plan to do so in the weekend.