Keep your Jesus off my Penis

[General Zod]

There a plenty of things that fail the Grandma test but are not very offensive to most people. A mixed race couple, for example. Also, it so happens that the things that offend Grandmas also tend to offend the Christian Right. So when something does pass the Grandma test, I can be pretty certain that it won't offend my fundie friends either.

If you can't come up with objective criteria that are applicable to all the situations, then frankly you shouldn't be applying them at all in such subjective fashions. As it stands your criteria as to why it's offensive are pathetic if it can't be applied equally to all situations.

Do my religious friends find wrestling offensive? Some find staged wrestling, like WWE, offensive but think competitive wrestling is OK. Some are offended by both. Some are offended by neither. And while wrestlers' "various bodily functions & genetalia" may be more apparent than those of other athletes, they typically don't "reference" them verbally.

You've clearly never watched WWE then. Lots of wrestlers make highly suggestive remarks if not outright mentioning such bodyparts. And did I forget to mention the bikini matches?

If we're all so hung up on Grandmas, try applying a different test instead. Would the New York Times print an article about this video on the front page? Would Fox News show the video on daytime TV? The author of the video certainly isn't required to make the video non-offensive to all people everywhere. However if he ever intended fundamentalist Christians (the subject of the video's satire) as an audience, he should have made the video more tasteful to them.

Maybe you're just not aware of why satire exists. It's designed to specifically be offensive, get people riled up, and poke fun at failings of a group that that particular group might hold in high regard or not even acknowledge of failings. Obviously not all satire do all of these, but that's the basic gist of why it's satire. Whether or not it's 'offensive' is beyond the point, and frankly using something as being offensive as a test as to whether or not it's appropriate is idiotic, since you'll always find someone that will be offended by something even the vast majority of people don't find offensive.

[Gil Hamilton]

Both my Grandparents were in WWII, and neither finds "Asian people" particularly offensive. Actually, my Grandma really likes Asian cuisine. Now if a Japanese person dressed up in a WWII uniform, exposed his chest and midriff, and told my Grandparents to keep their western ways off his penis... that they might find offensive.

You said to apply the grandma test and I applied it. My grandma on my father's side was very decidedly racist against Asians. See the problem with your stupid test? What someones grandmother thinks is largely irrelevant to the issue.

Furthermore, who cares about guys exposing their chest and/or midriff? Why is that offensive? Hell, what about the song is particularly offensive?

If we're all so hung up on Grandmas, try applying a different test instead. Would the New York Times print an article about this video on the front page? Would Fox News show the video on daytime TV? The author of the video certainly isn't required to make the video non-offensive to all people everywhere. However if he ever intended fundamentalist Christians (the subject of the video's satire) as an audience, he should have made the video more tasteful to them.

Ah yes, because there is no standard of good taste like the FCC, huh? They'll hit you with a massive fine if you say the word "Fuck" on television, even in an appropriate context.

Furthermore, the point of this video is it doesn't pull its punches; it wouldn't be effective if it was PC. If Fundie Morons get offended, that's their fault.

Lastly, I find it practically hilarious that you talk about how you shouldn't post things that offends fundies, but have an avatar lifted from a movie that was up to it's fucking eyeballs in Shinto, the native religion of Japan... something considered paganism by the religious right and offensive. Or does that Daikon Radish God represent Jesus?

[kc8tbe]

I really didn't mean to hijack Max's thread, so I created a new thread for those who want to continue discussing my posts here.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 49#2075549

So if you want to know why I think some people would find the clip offensive, what my Grandma does and doesn't find offensive, etc., post in the new thread and not here. I'll ignore you if you post here.

[kc8tbe]

Edit: rhoenix's thread. Must... use... preview button!

[Anomie]

That was funny as hell.

[Adrian Laguna]

I just realized that the internet is composed of much more than the sites in my "Favorties" folder. I hereby retract this statement.

funny, like 90% of the internet.

Large sections of the internet are utter garbage that's neither funny nor entertaining.