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Careful Moly, quoting facts that challenge his pre-conceived notions is "Nintendo fanboyism".Molyneux wrote:
Your "substantive criticism" consists of saying that you don't like WarioWare, and that you can't understand why any gamers would. Thus, you show a singular lack of knowledge with regard to gamers' tastes (judging by the popularity of the DS version of WarioWare); how the hell is that "substantive criticism"?
No no no, citing the opinions of people with experience playing the system is "Nintendo fanboyism". Quoting facts that challenge his pre-concieved notions is irrelivant(such as quoting Nintendo's profits when arguing if the Gamecube was a success).Ryoga wrote:Careful Moly, quoting facts that challenge his pre-conceived notions is "Nintendo fanboyism".Molyneux wrote:
Your "substantive criticism" consists of saying that you don't like WarioWare, and that you can't understand why any gamers would. Thus, you show a singular lack of knowledge with regard to gamers' tastes (judging by the popularity of the DS version of WarioWare); how the hell is that "substantive criticism"?
I'm not that strong, and I dislike outdoors (given my nose gets stopped up within 5 minutes of outdoor exposure.) I think it will make for a good party game.Badme wrote:Having not seen the Wii Sports clip, am I the only one who isn't...vaguely interested at all? If I want to play basketball with some friends, I'll go to a basketball court. If I want to play tennis with some friends, I'll go to a tennis court. How is this at all better than the real thing?
Again, you're a fucking idiot. You treat gamers tastes as a matter of objective fact rather than subjective ... taste. "Lack of knowledge about gamers' tastes", give me a fucking break.Molyneux wrote:
Your "substantive criticism" consists of saying that you don't like WarioWare, and that you can't understand why any gamers would. Thus, you show a singular lack of knowledge with regard to gamers' tastes (judging by the popularity of the DS version of WarioWare); how the hell is that "substantive criticism"?
What I said was that I was not impressed and I said why I wasn't impressed. Period. Now go fellate Mario or something, I'm sick of this upsurge of fanboy bullshit lately every time someone insults a sacred cow (e.g. Stark's lacklustre response to the Halo trailer, which was similarly over-reacted to).Actually, the problem is you act like your subjective tastes are the be all and end all of the argument, and get your panties in a knot when people call you on your bullshit. Projecting much, mein freund?Vympel wrote: Again, you're a fucking idiot. You treat gamers tastes as a matter of objective fact rather than subjective ... taste. "Lack of knowledge about gamers' tastes", give me a fucking break.
If you think some TIME article signing praises about how awesome it is to prance about your TV looking like you're having a seizure performing idiotic tasks is an awesome indicator of how great the Wii is going to be, by all means go ahead, but stop crying like a little bitch when someone says "that sounds retarded." as if they violated a canon prouncement.
I'm not even attempting to *have* an argument here on matters of taste. You are, however. I stated mine. That's it. The only people getting their panties in a bunch are the fuckwits who can't take reading any criticism of the Wii without frothing at the mouth.Ryoga wrote:
Actually, the problem is you act like your subjective tastes are the be all and end all of the argument, and get your panties in a knot when people call you on your bullshit. Projecting much, mein freund?
Oh snap, somebody should have told EA before they poured all that money into all those sports game franchises!!Badme wrote:Having not seen the Wii Sports clip, am I the only one who isn't...vaguely interested at all? If I want to play basketball with some friends, I'll go to a basketball court. If I want to play tennis with some friends, I'll go to a tennis court. How is this at all better than the real thing?
You, who would so readily bash a great game that you have never played. (For the record, I have played a few versions of WarioWare, but I did not buy it because, alas, I was broke at the time. But, yes, they were surprisingly fun.) Your so-called "Criticisms" only help re-enforce the fact that you have not played the game. The "point," is that it is a series of minigames in which you have a few seconds to figure out what the hell you're supposed to do. In order to quote Adam Sessler on the first, "you play a minigame, lose on purpose just to see what happens, and then you laugh so hard you miss the next minigame."Vympel wrote: I fail to see what's "w00t" about this article. If you need any more confirmation that this system is being designed for non-gamers who play for 5 minutes at a time, I don't know what it is. Why the hell would any gamer get excited to play that pathetic Wario game they describe? Since when did anyone want to dance the hula? Five year olds with ADD might like it though.
Vympel wrote: Heck, the only promising (not for me, since I never liked it) thing in there is Zelda. Great, so they can make it, Metroid, and a Mario game or two and call it a day. Oh and maybe Duck-Hunt. Couple that with the few developers willing to expend valuable time and resources on developing games for a system with a non-standard controller requiring lots more work that doesn't apply anywhere else.
Here we go again. Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles, Red Steel, the recently announced Excite Truck, Wario Ware ( 
), as was just recently announced, a Resident Evil game., a new franchise (Day of Disaster, which looks really good graphic-wise), Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, LoZ: TP Wii Sports, and Sonic. That's an impressive enough lineup for me.And I'm sick of your unneccissary bitching. Stark wasn't impressed with the Halo trailer. So what? Neither was I. The music was great, but the footage could have been done alot better. I, however, will not pass judgement until I actually get my hands on it.Vympel wrote: Again, you're a fucking idiot. You treat gamers tastes as a matter of objective fact rather than subjective ... taste. "Lack of knowledge about gamers' tastes", give me a fucking break. :Rolling Eyes: What I said was that I was not impressed and I said why I wasn't impressed. Period. Now go fellate Mario or something, I'm sick of this upsurge of fanboy bullshit lately every time someone insults a sacred cow (e.g. Stark's lacklustre response to the Halo trailer, which was similarly over-reacted to).
The time article tells us 2 things. One, that Warioware is comming to the Wii (which it should, given it is a great franchise), and Two, that the controller can appeal to the mainstream audience. Both of which mean good for NintendoVympel wrote: If you think some TIME article signing praises about how awesome it is to prance about your TV looking like you're having a seizure performing idiotic tasks is an awesome indicator of how great the Wii is going to be, by all means go ahead, but stop crying like a little bitch when someone says "that sounds retarded." as if they violated a canon prouncement.
Bullshit. You're so-called criticism wasn't even a valid criticism to begin with. When people call you on it, you say "you started it" and "I'm not trying to have an argument." Your criticism isn't fucking valid, nor is it wanted. When you play it, and I mean actually make an attempt to enjoy it, let me know how it turns out.Vympel wrote:I'm not even attempting to *have* an argument here on matters of taste. You are, however. I stated mine. That's it. The only people getting their panties in a bunch are the fuckwits who can't take reading any criticism of the Wii without frothing at the mouth.
I actually find sports games somewhat pointless too. But there's a difference there: Modern-day sports games enable the player abilities to do things far beyond what we can in real life, like manage teams throughout seasons, compete in tournaments, and manipulate an entire team on the field. If the Rev. stuff sounds like what I think it is, then as a 'party' game you're just stuck, well, playing tennis. Just standing in your living room.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Oh snap, somebody should have told EA before they poured all that money into all those sports game franchises!!Badme wrote:Having not seen the Wii Sports clip, am I the only one who isn't...vaguely interested at all? If I want to play basketball with some friends, I'll go to a basketball court. If I want to play tennis with some friends, I'll go to a tennis court. How is this at all better than the real thing?
The Wii's graphics ARE significantly better than the GameCube's, having seen them first hand. It's just that I think several (or most of) the launch titles are either thrown together to demo capabilities (Wii Sports, Flying Game), or basicly upgraded GameCube sequels and ports (Metroid Prime 3, Zelda: Twilight Princess, SpongeBob, etc).mizuno wrote:After looking at some wii clips, I'm gonna have to say that even $125 is too much. Apart from some spacial stuff the graphics really don't look any better then the gamecube. I'd rather pay $40 for 2 wii controllers and hook em up to a used gamecube instead of shelling out for a new console that really isn't anything different.. the wii should have just been a nifty peripheral and nintendo should attempt to kinda keep up with sony and ms in the graphics department
The Nintendo rep on the floor actually told me that what we saw on the screens was only a mockup of the Virtual Console.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Screens of Wii Virtual Console presentation.
