What happens when you die?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-10 04:41pm

I believe in such a thing as a human soul. I believe such a soul is what gives me sentience. Don't get me wrong i'm not turning into a bible thumper or anything. Well as i was saying when i die the energy that makes my soul will trandform into something else. A basic rule of science is that energy cannot be destroyed and while I don't know what will happen. But i'll let you know if I get the chance.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-12-10 05:33pm

Darth Pounder wrote:I believe in such a thing as a human soul. I believe such a soul is what gives me sentience. Don't get me wrong i'm not turning into a bible thumper or anything. Well as i was saying when i die the energy that makes my soul will trandform into something else. A basic rule of science is that energy cannot be destroyed and while I don't know what will happen. But i'll let you know if I get the chance.

If you're going to use science, there should be a measurable heat release when you die due to your soul's evacuation from your body in addition to the heat release we observe happens when your corpse begins the process of reaching thermal equilibrium with its environment.

If I had to pick one afterlife-ish idea, it'd be reincarnation. I like the idea of having lots of chances to live different lives. The only drawback is that you don't have any of your former lives' accumulated knowledge. Bummer.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2002-12-10 06:11pm

When I die, I hope it's peacefully, and in my sleep, like my grandfather...

...not screaming in terror, like his passengers.

MirrorUniverseSpy1 · Post by **MirrorUniverseSpy1** » 2002-12-10 07:37pm

I think when you die, that's it. But yes, it will be party time for the
worms

And when the worms die they will be eaten by
something else, and so on. It is what the folks at Disney call the
"Circle of Life"

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-12-10 08:02pm

*Shrug* When you die, you're dead. Under my religious beliefs, there is an eschatological granting of new life, but until then existence is terminated. No reincarnation, no ascending to Heaven or descent to Hell, everyone's dead and gone until the end times. There is no soul.

[edit] Would this be a "just die" or a "something else"?[/edit]

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-12-10 08:14pm

Heaven or Hell. I have absolutely zero data to back this up. Its just what I believe.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-12-10 08:23pm

Limbo might be nice. Might ll people later then, I hope. Though my first memory I remember is nothingness. Strange, indeed.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-10 11:23pm

As far as I'm concerned, after you die, you as a person ceases to exist, and there is nothing else. Of course, this does not concern me in the slightest, as by definition I won't be around to care about being dead. In truth, death may be the only true freedom there is.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2002-12-11 01:12am

Zoink wrote:
Lagmonster wrote: Me, when I die I want all my assets liquidated and the cash used to erect a giant bronze statue of me, set up in a park somewhere, with the only strangeness being that my statue would have a giant and noticable hard-on under its trousers. And let future generations make of that what they will.
[Dr.Evil]
My statue will be installed on a giant pyramid made from solid plutonium. Millenia from now, when humans are back living like primitives (via nuclear war, or disease, etc), they will recognize me as the evil god of famine, plague, and destruction; All will fear me!!! Muhahaha....
[/Dr.Evil]

Well, that certainly is one way to go out with a bang . . .

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-11 01:19am

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Well, that certainly is one way to go out with a bang . . .

The other is to die of too much pleasure while having sex (Mike Wong is at a very high risk for this)

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-12-11 03:37am

data_link wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Well, that certainly is one way to go out with a bang . . .
The other is to die of too much pleasure while having sex (Mike Wong is at a very high risk for this)

First law strikes yet again

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The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-12-11 04:56am

Zoink wrote:
Well, if you want something a little less negative (ie. satisfy your self preservation instinct)...

If the passage of time is an illusion (which is increasingly believed to be a strong possibility) then the time you spend alive will always exist within the spacetime continuum. Although the limits of your existance (birth and death) limits the amount of information you receive (ie. a finite amount of experiences). I don't know if this translates into reliving the same experiences over and over, or whether we are experiencing everything at once and this "instant" is simply an illusion.... I don't know.

Hrmm. That would be an interesting philosophy to write and attempt to propagate.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » 2002-12-11 12:05pm

Nothing. When you die thats it, your only worm food.
Larz Wrote:

Thats why you build your own and get cremated in the forest

and hopfully take the forest with you

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-11 12:09pm

One just dies...end of story.

Though I want a house that becomes my tomb when I die.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2002-12-11 12:56pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Hrmm. That would be an interesting philosophy to write and attempt to propagate.

Yup. I think I can make millions from this. I forgot to add that believing this requires that you send me lots of money...

The Church of Temporal Constancy
Time's passage is an illusion. You exist as a 4D subset of a larger 4D universe. The more you cast aside this illusion of times passage the more you are at peace with your place within the universe....

I'll just forget to tell them that the other possibility is that this is all wrong, the passage of time is not an illusion, and that you do slip into nothingness.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-12-11 01:05pm

Howedar wrote:Heaven or Hell. I have absolutely zero data to back this up. Its just what I believe.

What, no Purgatory?

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 2002-12-12 05:20am

~holding his hands out in front of him, he spread them wide, and then brought them back together~ "All lives are the same length. Whether you walk through the steich quickly or slowly, you pass though it"

((The above is probably a misquote, but if time is simply a measure of distance along an axis that we all travel (barring relativistic effects) at 1 second per second... then the past where I was engaged to a woman I loved is not gone. It is as eternal as all of existance, simply in a place I can no longer visit, and one which I see less clearly as I grow further away))

((Word to the wise. Don't Drink and Post.))

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-12-13 04:00am

Marcus,

Some more drunken philosophy to chew on:

"You walk up the mountain. You walk down the mountain. Then you can say you have walked."

"It's not the tree but the bark around it."

XPViking

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-12-13 05:05am

I have no idea what happens. Not so eager to find out, either.

I do, however, remember a line from a folk song I heard several years back:

Whatcha Do Is Whatcha Do, And When You're Done, You're Mulch.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-13 10:01pm

I believe that there's no hell, or you only go there if you unjustly killed someone, but will go to heaven after a while, and that when you die, you get everything you wanted by didn't get in life on Earth. I like to have a positive outlook on death. I don't want to come back here as an ant that gets squashed after day 4. As for purgatory, I always thought of it as a waiting room with magazines and a cranky woman that screms "NEXT!" every 5 minutes. Even I think my visions of heaven and hell are screwed up...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-12-13 11:04pm

verilon wrote:
Howedar wrote:Heaven or Hell. I have absolutely zero data to back this up. Its just what I believe.
What, no Purgatory?

*growl*

Fine, Purgatory too

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-14 12:07am

First law strikes yet again

It is not THE first law, it is CYRIL'S First LAW.

Personally, I don't believe in Purgatory.

FireNexus · Post by **FireNexus** » 2002-12-14 10:59am

Though I very much dislike the idea of non-existence, and am more scared of it than anything else i can possibly think of, it's definitely a MAJOR possibility, if not the only one.

But, I haven't resigned myself to anything yet. I'll cross that path when it comes, hopefully a century from now or so. (I'm 17! I can dream of an obscenely long life if I like!)

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-14 11:04am

The thought of simply not existing anymore is extremely frightening. It's a great big 120mm thought sabot.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2002-12-14 12:15pm

See, I don't see what the is to fear about non-existence. Pain, I have a problem is, but if I can't experience something, I'm not worried about it.