Hammer wrote:OK, basically, here are a list of historical scenarios, but with some Jedi added. Basically this is to ask if you think they would have been of help or been likely to have changed the outcome any. In each case, the Jedi are equipped only with their lightsaber and their Force skills.
The scenarios:
- Omaha beach, Dog Green sector, 1944. Forty Jedi knights and masters are present, on the American side.
Here they could actually change the outcome of the battle. That many Jedi knights and masters would actually be able to rapidly move through the German lines, and probably work to greatly accelerate the landing operation. Their abilities to inspire forces to keep moving would be of great assistance, but the Jedi abilities with telekinesis would be their most important attribute, and would help them in disabling the German defenses more quickly than actually happened.
[*]As above, except the Jedi are on the German side.
Here they would help the Germans, but the net result would be the same. The Germans would eventually be routed. Even if (somehow) the German Jedi were able to stop the Allies, it would make no real difference because the other landings on Sword, Juno, and Utah, and Gold would succeed.
[*]Four Jedi masters accompany the force of USMC in the 1993 Somalia operation. (The operation made into a movie in Black Hawk Down)
If one or more of the Jedi were to stay with the convoy, they would have succeeded spectacularly because they would have prevented the convoy from getting lost. They could have picked up the wounded in half-an-hour, or so, and the casualties would have been greatly reduced. A more interesting scenario would take place if we assume that all of the Jedi moved to the First Crash Site (Wolcott's), or moved to Durant's Crash Site along with the Delta Force snipers. In the first case, I think that the Jedi would have had little actual impact on the way that the battle unfolded. The Jedi could not have successfully extracted the wounded soldiers themselves, though they could have almost certainly recovered the corpse in a much smaller period of time than actually happened. This is more or less insignificant, because the casualties while extracting the bodies from the helicopter were very light. If there had been Jedi with Durant and his crash site, I do not think that they could have held the Somalis through the entire night. If we assume that there was one Jedi present at Durant's site, and at least one with the convoy, I think that Durant is saved and the Americans are able to protect both crash sites long enough for the convoy to reach them.
[*]30 Jedi Knights and Masters are in among the light brigade (during the "Charge of the light brigade")
The Jedi make no difference, whatsoever, and are cut down the same as ordinary troops. The problem here was not with the skill of the British forces, or with their motivation. Rather it was with their planning, which was irrecoverably faulty.
[*]200 Jedi Masters scattered throughout Paris in WWII, to aid in defending the city from the approaching Nazi forces (the Jedi themselves are not French, and will not just surrender).
The Jedi are incapable of holding the city from the advancing Germans. They likely would be effective in supporting and leading the Maquis, and would actually likely have a significant impact on the war in its later years, but they would be impotent against the advancing German troops without more support from the French military.
[*]20 Jedi Knights and Masters scattered throughout Pearl Harbor on 12/7/1941
The Jedi make little difference unless they can warn the Americans before the attack that it will take place. In that case, the American casualties would be significantly reduced, and the Japanese casualties would have been dramatically increased. It is actually interesting to speculate about what would have happened in the war, after that, assuming that the American battleships were largely saved from the attack. It may have actually harmed the American cause, in the long-run, because of the American fears of using their aircraft carriers to the fullest possible capacity, but I think that we are looking for impact on the battle itself. The Jedi would have been more or less incapable, once the battle began, of protecting American ships, and though they would doubtless serve with distinction in firing on Japanese planes, the outcome would be more or less unchanged.
[*]One Jedi Knight on each of the hijacked 9/11 airliners
The Jedi almost certainly overpower the hijackers fairly easily. Although we are not entirely sure what methods were used in the hijacking, I find it difficult to believe that five men armed with small knives and razors could overwhelm a Jedi Knight.
[*]One Jedi Knight aboard the Titanic[/list]
Unless the Jedi is able to alert the ship to either slow down or to simply ram the iceberg head on, he makes little difference in terms of saving the ship. He would almost certainly, however, lower the death-toll enormously by taking charge of the life-boats and ensuring that they were full prior to being launched.
[*]Two Jedi Knights among the British force at Rourke's Drift, during the Zulu attack (as made into a movie in the film Zulu).
This is an interesting scenario. I think that the Jedi would be able to significantly reduce British casualties, and hold the outpost. The Zulu still possess an enormous advantage, but the Jedi abilities to fight are unparalleled, and the Zulu lack the kind of weapons needed to kill them.
That's all for now. I may think of more eventually
I look forward to it.
