All of Anime vs the Principality of Zan!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 06:28pm

Jesus, this sounds like you're making this shit up.

I'm suprised that this thread has stretched out this far, considering the first time you posted it nobody responded because we didn't give a shit/know what the hell you were talking about.

Wank, wank, wank...

Oh, and all these anime godbeings are not 'wank'.

If you don't like it, don't post in it. I frankly don't give a damn about your personal opinions.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 06:30pm

And I don't give a fuck about some God damn local comic...

Wank, wank, wank...

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 06:32pm

And I don't give a fuck about some God damn local comic...

Wank, wank, wank...

Notice the distinct lack of gun being put to your head.

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2002-12-13 07:51pm

HemlockGrey wrote:

And you still haven't told me how you're going to counter a being which is the sum total of the minds, knowledge, unconscious, and latent psychic power of all of humanity.
And what use is psychic power? How will it use it?
What do you want her to do to zan? Should they worship her? Disband? She is literally humantity, all of the human race is apart of her. Or atleast she can control/manipulate humanity... Depends on who you ask.

The disruptors will not do anything to anything incorporeal. However, keep in mind that the Imperator has created everything, can do whatever the hell he wants, etc. etc. In Christianity, God has existed forever, will never stop existing, and is the root cause of everything. That is the Imperator.
For the Zan universe yes, however many ompinents exist and many show up in anime... he is one against many. l-sama is pretty much described the same way.

And they are going to do this how?
By teaming together and breaking his conscense down?

Meet the Manipulators; beings who wield energy and matter like paint. They are the lower caste of workers.

Okay... and what does matter and energy manipulation have on reality manipilation? She's already merged three realities together already. And can do whatever she wants to them.

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-12-13 08:23pm

Okay idjit, to make this clear and simple: Your comic NO one has heard of, thus its wank.

The anime everyones talking about MORE THAN 1 has heard of, notice how everyone tends to be in agreement or even correct others when they make a mistake about anime refrences. Notice that no one can do that with yours because to us it doesn't exist!

Any dink or loon can say they are reading something with an uberverse power and try to pit it up against something while in reality this uberverse comic doesn't exist but rather is just fluff taken from your ass to counter everything.

If your going to say "oh, oh, I don't know about yours..." still, then go to this thing, its called www.google.com. Now, this is important, type in, you getting this, type in (A)(N)(I)(M)(E) and press the return key. You'll get several million sites and some of them will have all this information in plain and simple text. To hard, then ask around and type in the specific names of the animes to get specific details about them and you'll get all the validation you could hope for about what were talking about.

All in all, this debate is pointless, all its doing is making you look stupid.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 08:27pm

The name is unoriginal as well.

Gundam: Principality of Zeon.
Your wanker comic: Principality of Zan.

Smells like a rip off.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 08:29pm

Also, I once Googled "Principality of Zan" and it came up with Absolutely Nothing.

Does that say something to you?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 09:09pm

What do you want her to do to zan? Should they worship her? Disband? She is literally humantity, all of the human race is apart of her. Or atleast she can control/manipulate humanity... Depends on who you ask.

Hmm...chalk up one win for anime, then.

Gundam: Principality of Zeon.
Your wanker comic: Principality of Zan.

Wow! If you change two letters of 'Zan', you get 'Zeon'! Well, if you change four letters of 'Star Wars' you get 'Star Trek'! Obviously, Star Wars is a ripoff!

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-13 09:14pm

HemlockGrey wrote:The forces of anime must destroy the Principality of Zan.

The PoZ-verse it is then. That solves the problem of the Stupid Anime Hero + Ceripho combo. Omega from the FFU Anime (crap Anime, but Omega is powerful) can eat the universe from the outside. Or, you can unlease Lord of Nightmares.

HemlockGrey wrote:And what use is psychic power? How will it use it?

Lain: "Let's all love Lain."
All the Humans in the Principality of Zan: "We all love Lain. We all love Lain. We all love Lain." *Collectively surrenders*

Oh, and for each one of the universe that just happens to have it's own cosmology? The Gods from those cosmologies will come a-knocking.

BTW, there's also the Sailor Moon Plot Device Catalogue. ( http://www.tcp.com/doi/smoon/smoon.html )

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 09:18pm

The PoZ-verse it is then. That solves the problem of the Stupid Anime Hero + Ceripho combo. Omega from the FFU Anime (crap Anime, but Omega is powerful) can eat the universe from the outside. Or, you can unlease Lord of Nightmares.

Eat. The Universe. Eat...? How does one eat a universe?

Lain: "Let's all love Lain."
All the Humans in the Principality of Zan: "We all love Lain. We all love Lain. We all love Lain." *Collectively surrenders*

-stratches head-
Well, that would work on the civilians, but the soldiers are permenantly unconcious. It would cripple the Principality's manufactoring capabilities but you still have to deal with the warships.

BTW, there's also the Sailor Moon Plot Device Catalogue. ( http://www.tcp.com/doi/smoon/smoon.html )

Oy vey.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 09:26pm

How old is this "Zan" BS?

And I mean in real life.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 09:30pm

How old is this "Zan" BS?

And I mean in real life.

1 yr.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 09:36pm

Thought so. Mobile Suit Gundam started in the US about a year ago.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-13 09:48pm

Alright, Hemlock. I cannot find a peep of this series you speak of. For the interest of verifying your claims, please disclose:

The company distributing the comic.
The name of the creator.
Some issue names.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 09:57pm

Alright, Hemlock. I cannot find a peep of this series you speak of. For the interest of verifying your claims, please disclose:

The company distributing the comic.
The name of the creator.
Some issue names.

Name is James Edwards. Company would be him. Issues are identified by number, 1-30 something.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 10:01pm

It still sounds to me like it's either fake or a huge wank-fest rip-off.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 10:02pm

Oh, and Zeon and Zan sound a LOT alike. That is what my suspicions are based on, not the spelling.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 10:03pm

It still sounds to me like it's either fake or a huge wank-fest rip-off.

And what if it's one, or the other, or both? Are you going to ban me, rip apart my flesh and piss on my corpse?

And can you find anything other than a superficial detail that indicates it's a 'ripoff'?

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2002-12-13 10:06pm

You know I don't see the problem even if this is his own idea. And its pretty much certain to be a local comic or something so he is prob the creator or knows the one who did... I wouldn't call it a fan-wank anymore than most sci-fi. Though it sounds intersting to me. And there is stuff that beats it... We've named a few already and I can name a few more outside anime.

Here are a few questions though... pertaining to the Zan in general and the debate also.

What is the purpose of the experment? What is the imperator hoping to learn from this war? And does anyone try to stop this experiment? I take it most people don't know that God made the universe just to fight and surfer till it destroys itself?

While the Imperator might be the all-powerful god in the zan comics... it doesn't make him any more powerful than any of the other all-powerful gods in anime or sci-fi. Also he might rule "all-creation" as far as the zan comics go... but all creation seems to be one universe... even with millions of galaxies.. others rule serval or even more universes contain just as many galaixies.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 10:21pm

What is the purpose of the experment? What is the imperator hoping to learn from this war? And does anyone try to stop this experiment? I take it most people don't know that God made the universe just to fight and surfer till it destroys itself?

It's never actually said, although it is mentioned that he does these sorts of experiments all the time; what mankind or flykind or zebrakind would do if forever at war, forever at peace, left to it's own devices, left to it's own devices with a single atom tweaked, and then another, etc.

My guess is it's partially for amusement. He has existed Forever and will never cease to exist, so he's gotta do something.

While the Imperator might be the all-powerful god in the zan comics... it doesn't make him any more powerful than any of the other all-powerful gods in anime or sci-fi. Also he might rule "all-creation" as far as the zan comics go... but all creation seems to be one universe... even with millions of galaxies.. others rule serval or even more universes contain just as many galaixies.

Very true.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-12-13 10:39pm

Oh yeah? If you're gonna bring out some obscure comic, then I'll have to fight back with an oscure Super Robot!

Hasshin, ARBEGAS!

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-12-13 10:53pm

Don't make me pull out The Martian King... traits, Martian King Punch, Martian King Cannon, invincible... ahh the wonders of Battle Angel Alita...
(For those who are still clueless, its in "Angel Ascention" where Desty Nova and Alita are in the Aureboras (SP)... and its not a spoiler since if one has never read this series they wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about)

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-13 11:06pm

Don't make me pull out The Martian King... traits, Martian King Punch, Martian King Cannon, invincible... ahh the wonders of Battle Angel Alita...
(For those who are still clueless, its in "Angel Ascention" where Desty Nova and Alita are in the Aureboras (SP)... and its not a spoiler since if one has never read this series they wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about)

Martian King Punch...sounds like something out of Super Smash Brothers.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-12-13 11:55pm

Wasn't that like a joke in VR?

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-14 02:04am

HemlockGrey wrote: Eat. The Universe. Eat...? How does one eat a universe?

Beats me. As I said, Final Fantasy Unlimited was a crap series that got canceled in the middle. However, Omega had the habit of "devouring worlds" so...