Police seize klingon weaponry in raid

[CaptainChewbacca]

Wacky, wacky brits

By MIKE SULLIVAN
Crime Editor

THIS five-foot martial arts sword capable of beheading a man was recovered by shocked cops in a house raid.

The terrifying Batleth weapon is identical to one wielded by Klingon aliens in the Star Trek sci-fi films.

Officers seized the three-handled sword — which has huge pointed blades at either end — at a home in Gloucester.

It was shown yesterday at the start of a five-week national knife amnesty. Cops hope 30,000 blades will be handed in, with owners free from prosecution.

Local Insp Mac McGarry wielded the sword, which he said had been sharpened to kill.

He said: “It is a particularly nasty weapon which could easily take someone’s head off.”

Home Office Minister Vernon Coaker launched the amnesty in St John’s Wood, North West London. He said: “We are determined to get the scourge of knife crime off our streets.”

But Victims of Crime campaigner Norman Brennan, a serving cop, branded the initiative a “futile PR stunt”.

He said: “It is likely to be supported by the law-abiding public and not those who carry knives for criminal activity.

“Knife crime will only get worse if we don’t introduce a five-year mandatory sentence for anyone carrying a knife.”

THE Queen’s grocer Fortnum & Mason was fined £2,000 by Horseferry Road Magistrates in London for selling a knife to a child under 16.

On the serious side, what the hell is up with "Knife Control"? How will they cook? Will people start being stabbed with sporks?

[NoXion]

The whole knife amnesty idea is stupid anyway since the only people who will hand in knives by default are law-abiding citizens. Criminals don't obey the law, that's why they're criminals.

[JediMaster415]

I can understand trying to keep kinves under control but doesn't this run the same line that it does with guns. You are only restricting those who give a shit about the law.

Plus, how the hell is a Bat'leth a knife? It would more accurately be a sword, being five feet long.

[Zed Snardbody]

What is an illicit knife? I carry a pocket knife with a 3 inch blade. Would this get me arrested in the UK?

[Nephtys]

What is an illicit knife? I carry a pocket knife with a 3 inch blade. Would this get me arrested in the UK?

How can you conceal a giant, impractical klingon bat'leth anyway? If someone's running around with that, they're not committing muggings by the virtue of being extremely, extremely conspicuous.

...how the hell do you sheathe something like that anyway?

[mr friendly guy]

Don't people own Bath leths as collectors items, as opposed to actually expecting to use it in a real fight.

[Jadeite]

This is why you just start using clubs if knives become hard to get ahold of.

[Plekhanov]

In the UK you can’t carry a blade around without good reason (good reason being you need it for you job, some DIY you’re doing or something like that) if you do need one you can’t carry it in your pocket, on your hip or anywhere that’s easy to grab, but instead should have it in bag, the back of your car or something like that.

Your are obviously allowed knives in the kitchen, the garage and so forth just not on the street, I for one am totally in favour of these laws. Nobody needs to carry an easily accessible knife on the street. Even if you are a ‘law abiding’ citizen and only carry a blade ‘for protection’ we all run the risk of getting into violent situations and in any confrontation the presence of a knife in any violent situation makes death and serious injury so much more likely.

[Jason von Evil]

Did they do a tribble test?

[Joe]

If he had screamed "QAPLA!!!!" this would be the greatest story ever.

[Jadeite]

In the UK you can’t carry a blade around without good reason (good reason being you need it for you job, some DIY you’re doing or something like that) if you do need one you can’t carry it in your pocket, on your hip or anywhere that’s easy to grab, but instead should have it in bag, the back of your car or something like that.

Your are obviously allowed knives in the kitchen, the garage and so forth just not on the street, I for one am totally in favour of these laws. Nobody needs to carry an easily accessible knife on the street. Even if you are a ‘law abiding’ citizen and only carry a blade ‘for protection’ we all run the risk of getting into violent situations and in any confrontation the presence of a knife in any violent situation makes death and serious injury so much more likely.

So what do you do if you're attacked by someone?

[Plekhanov]

In the UK you can’t carry a blade around without good reason (good reason being you need it for you job, some DIY you’re doing or something like that) if you do need one you can’t carry it in your pocket, on your hip or anywhere that’s easy to grab, but instead should have it in bag, the back of your car or something like that.

Your are obviously allowed knives in the kitchen, the garage and so forth just not on the street, I for one am totally in favour of these laws. Nobody needs to carry an easily accessible knife on the street. Even if you are a ‘law abiding’ citizen and only carry a blade ‘for protection’ we all run the risk of getting into violent situations and in any confrontation the presence of a knife in any violent situation makes death and serious injury so much more likely.

So what do you do if you're attacked by someone?

Run away, what do you do?

[Knife]

So what do you do if you're attacked by someone?

Get mugged if you're not a fast runner apperently.

[Plekhanov]

“It is a particularly nasty weapon which could easily take someone’s head off.”

I wonder if this quote will ever be used by a star trek type trying to argue for the Klingons admirable hand to hand skills?

[Knife]

“It is a particularly nasty weapon which could easily take someone’s head off.”

I wonder if this quote will ever be used by a star trek type trying to argue for the Klingons admirable hand to hand skills?

Now all we need is some fat kid swinging around a mic. stand yelling 'Kapla' and other Klingon phrases.

[Plekhanov]

So what do you do if you're attacked by someone?

Get mugged if you're not a fast runner apperently.

So if I carry a knife or even a gun what good will that do me? The mugger will likely have their weapon drawn making any attempt of mine to fight foolish, my best bet is to run failing that give em my wallet and then run, I’m not gonna risk my life just for £20 and a few cards.

[Uraniun235]

Not every attacker is rational enough to stop at robbery.

[Alyeska]

In the UK you can’t carry a blade around without good reason (good reason being you need it for you job, some DIY you’re doing or something like that) if you do need one you can’t carry it in your pocket, on your hip or anywhere that’s easy to grab, but instead should have it in bag, the back of your car or something like that.

Your are obviously allowed knives in the kitchen, the garage and so forth just not on the street, I for one am totally in favour of these laws. Nobody needs to carry an easily accessible knife on the street. Even if you are a ‘law abiding’ citizen and only carry a blade ‘for protection’ we all run the risk of getting into violent situations and in any confrontation the presence of a knife in any violent situation makes death and serious injury so much more likely.

Nobody needs an easily accessible knife? Bullshit. A knife is a simple and highly effective tool. People shouldn't be relegated to keeping the thing in unhandy locations because of nanny state fears.

[SirNitram]

A knife is not a versatile tool. A leatherman, that's a versatile tool, and it can double as a close combat weapon if you absolutely must.

This persistant delusion that, upon having a firearm levelled at you, you will somehow draw your own weapon and defeat the attacker so fast he is unable to squeeze his trigger truly astounds me. As does any American calling any other country a 'nanny state' when their own government is protecting them from the horrors of breasts, monitoring their phone calls, and working to protect them from the evils of real sex-ed.

[Death from the Sea]

So what do you do if you're attacked by someone?

Get mugged if you're not a fast runner apperently.

So if I carry a knife or even a gun what good will that do me? The mugger will likely have their weapon drawn making any attempt of mine to fight foolish, my best bet is to run failing that give em my wallet and then run, I’m not gonna risk my life just for £20 and a few cards.

that is where guile and deception come in. make the attacker think you are reaching for your wallet but instead present a gun and shoot their ass.

seriously though it is a silly law. by going apeshit with this weapons control they are making it easier for the criminals to find defenseless victims. Here in Texas where there is a concealed carry law, muggers gotta think twice about who they are going to rob. Most robbery victims these days are drunks, because they are super easy.

[Knife]

So if I carry a knife or even a gun what good will that do me? The mugger will likely have their weapon drawn making any attempt of mine to fight foolish, my best bet is to run failing that give em my wallet and then run, I’m not gonna risk my life just for £20 and a few cards.

Because not every situation along these lines are the same, not every mugging could have been stopped by a weapon of any sort, nor could every mugging be stopped by running fast. It never hurts to have options.

[Plekhanov]

Not every attacker is rational enough to stop at robbery.

And not every angsty twat who thinks I looked at him funny/his bird is rational enough not to try to stab me for my troubles, on balance I think the fewer idiots there are out carrying lethal weapons the better.

Besides as I pointed out in a mugging type situation in all likelihood the muggers weapon will be drawn, if I carried mine obviously would not so it wouldn’t do me much good anyway.

Nobody needs an easily accessible knife? Bullshit. A knife is a simple and highly effective tool. People shouldn't be relegated to keeping the thing in unhandy locations because of nanny state fears.

And just what kinds of jobs to would I need a knife for as I go shopping or go down the pub with my mates?

[Alyeska]

Nobody needs an easily accessible knife? Bullshit. A knife is a simple and highly effective tool. People shouldn't be relegated to keeping the thing in unhandy locations because of nanny state fears.

And just what kinds of jobs to would I need a knife for as I go shopping or go down the pub with my mates?

How about being able to cut through absurd amounts of packaging of items you have bought. How about being used to cut up an apple you just got. Or what about using it to cut off a tatered piece of clothing that was created when you ripped your jacket on the side of a doorway.

There are countless possible uses for a knife which are completely legitimate. In places like Montana (the more rural areas) the usefulness of a knife becomes even more apparent. The simple bucknife works wonders.

Need to cut through cardboard, a rope, plastic ties.

[SirNitram]

How about being able to cut through absurd amounts of packaging of items you have bought. How about being used to cut up an apple you just got. Or what about using it to cut off a tatered piece of clothing that was created when you ripped your jacket on the side of a doorway.

There are countless possible uses for a knife which are completely legitimate. In places like Montana (the more rural areas) the usefulness of a knife becomes even more apparent. The simple bucknife works wonders.

Need to cut through cardboard, a rope, plastic ties.

So... All these things that can be done with scissors. Even the scissors on my swiss army knife. Or a good ol' fashioned leatherman. Which can do more jobs, because it's a leatherman, and if a leatherman can't do it you need an industrial grade laser and superglue.

[Alyeska]

A great many leathermans would be quite illegal in the UK given blade length.

A leatherman is a very nice tool. I need to get myself a better one then the fake leatherman I have.