Starcruisers and cruisers, starship rates

[knightwire]

Though, that would make me have to go back to an earlier argument; in which if those are ~1.2km cruisers, then by the shot from the Executor bridge, they'd appear to be past the escorting SD's, and seconds later when you see the Executor's bridge in flames, those two cruisers are not in frame at all.

Plus, Home One and it's escort still have to be there somewhere. Perhaps they're too 'high' to be seen from that angle, but you can't see those 'wingless' ones from Akbar's perspective which represents a big problem.

Knife,

These are good questions. I don't have my ROTJ DVD right now as it's loaned out to a friend, but I would really like to watch the sequence you've outlined here. Like I said above, in the Akbar shot, it does seem like that's the front of a Home One type ship poking it's nose into the left viewport. The only thing that worries me is the possibility of little or no though being put into those shots at the time the movie was cut. We could be trying to figure out a puzzle here that has no answer. (But maybe not.) Also I never noticed the HO type in the scene of the Executor diving. But it clearly is one... like to look at that as well.

I'm sorry, this just irks me: where did you get the idea that the wingless ships are the same as the Reef Home? I've not seen anything suggesting that. :S

I guess I honestly can't tell you where I got that corellation. Over the years I've heard and seen people refer to the pearly wingless as the Reef Home. Particularly, now that I think about it, for the use of video games or RPG campaigns. I mean a lot of people VT-16 refer to that ship as the Reef Home. I can definately say you are the first instance of someone having an issue with it.

Do you have any kind of source or reference that explicitly shows that the Reef Home had wings?

[VT-16]

it does seem like that's the front of a Home One type ship poking it's nose into the left viewport

Actually, it looks more like a Liberty-type, the Home Ones have a more whiteish hue, while this is more dull gray.

I mean a lot of people VT-16 refer to that ship as the Reef Home. I can definately say you are the first instance of someone having an issue with it.

I only noted it because I've heard it and used it myself, but now I can't remember if I got it from an actual source or not, so I stopped using it. :S

[Knife]

I think, though, that it is still reasonable to classify the Home One types as Starcruisers and the liberty types (both) as Mon Cal cruisers that fall into the lower tier cruiser, and may cross over to Stardestroyer level.

[VT-16]

So essentially, Home Ones are Star Cruisers on one scale and battleships in another, while Liberty-variants are Star Destroyers on one scale and heavy cruisers in another. 8)

[Knife]

So essentially, Home Ones are Star Cruisers on one scale and battleships in another, while Liberty-variants are Star Destroyers on one scale and heavy cruisers in another.

*shrug* something like that. I'd imagine that a Starcruiser really doesn't translate into the other lower tier, but yeah, the Libertys would be cruiser/Stardestroyer level from lower tier to higher.

But I'd imagine that such dual classifications are rare. A Carrack shouldn't really translate into an upper tier unless you want to go with the 'Starsloop' route. But some of the larger and more powerful cruisers on the lower tier might translate into Stardestroyers or Starfrigates.