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Ender wrote:
Anarchist Bunny wrote:Or stop trying to make everything of galactic or large scale importance. There has been 50 years now of periodic galactic turmoil. Lets see something smaller scale(like the Desann or Tavion attempts at Force-using armies from the Jedi Knight game series). Or if you can't get something like that published, try going the KOTOR style, you've got what 25,000 years of Republic reign to work with?
Fuck, go back to the rebellion era and tell some stories that don't center on the trio. Tell about the schmucks trying to do an endrun around the Empire with some intelligence about Derra 4 and have them all fail and die or something.
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What era was KOTOR around? Or is this going to be Darth Bane, or some random Sith lord we've never heared of before?
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Dartzap wrote:What era was KOTOR around? Or is this going to be Darth Bane, or some random Sith lord we've never heared of before?
Kotor was about 5,000 (-~6) years before EP$, Bane was about 1,000 years ago
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So, the last Sith of the time eh? Well, it probably going to be Darth Hick or some other random person then.
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DEATH wrote:
Dartzap wrote:What era was KOTOR around? Or is this going to be Darth Bane, or some random Sith lord we've never heared of before?
Kotor was about 5,000 (-~6) years before EP$, Bane was about 1,000 years ago
Actually, the comic book named Knights of the Old Republic is set about 4,000 thousand years before the Battle of Yavin/Episode IV. Knights of the Old Republic PC/console games (KotOR and KotOR II), on the other hand, are set 50-54 years after Exar Kun's defeat. Nitpicking, sorry.
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New titles and release info from NJOE:
Book 1: Betrayal by Aaron Allston (May 2006, Hardcover)
Book 2: Bloodlines by Karen Traviss (August 2006, Paperback)
Book 3: Tempest by Troy Denning (November 2006, Paperback)
Book 4: Exile by Aaron Allston (February 2007, Paperback)
Book 5: Sacrifice by Karen Traviss (June 2007, Hardcover)
Book 6: by Troy Denning (September 2007, Paperback)
Book 7: by Aaron Allston (November 2007, Paperback)
Book 8: by Karen Traviss (March 2008, Paperback)
Book 9: by Troy Denning (June 2008, Hardcover)
(Also, I'm sorry for not updating things here for a while. It's just that after the shit that was Dark Nest III, I needed to step away from the EU novels for a while (and its because of said book that I'm likely not going to pick up Legacy, but we'll see)
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Alright, the synopsis for Book III of Legacy, "Tempest" and the cover art, have been posted on NJOE:
As civil war threatens the unity of the Galactic Alliance, Han and Leia Solo have infuriated their families and the Jedi by joining the Corellian insurgents. But the Solos draw the line when they discover a rebel plot that hinges upon the murder of a longtime ally and her daughter.

The Solos' selfless determination to prevent this death cannot dispel the inescapable consequences of their actions, which will pit mother against son and brother against sister in the battles ahead. For elsewhere in the galaxy, a once-forgotten menace, Lumiya -- Dark Lady of the Sith -- is tipping the balance of the Force once more towards the darkness...
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Also, the kick-off novel, Betrayal goes on sale tomorrow.
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Internal conflict threatens the Republic (sorry, the "Galactic Federation of Free Alliances" what a bullshit name), a Sith appears and threatens evil, blah blah blah, whatever. The plot is just the same cliches copied and pasted in a different order.
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Yes, it would seem, that even with the chance at a new begining after the Vong invasion; we're back to the old same/same. Which is bullshit and boring. I just don't feel a compelling need to read these books anymore.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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Corellian insurgents? I think I have read this book already.

Hans cousin is behind it all.
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Update -- NJOE has now posted the first draft of the Dramatis Personae for Legacy of the Force: Bloodlines
Barit Saiy (Corellian male)
Ben Skywalker (human male)
Boba Fett, Mandalore and semi-retired bounty hunter (human male)
Cal Omas, Chief of State, Galactic Alliance (human male)
Cha Niathal, Admiral, Galactic Alliance (Mon Calamari female)
Goran Beviin, Mandalorian soldier (human male)
G'vli G'Sil, Coruscanti Senator, head of the Galactic Alliance Security Council (human male)
Han Solo, captain, Millennium Falcon (human male)
Heol Girdun, captain, Galactic Alliance Guard (human male)
Jacen Solo, Jedi Knight (human male)
Jaina Solo, Jedi Knight (human female)
Jori Lekauf, corporal, Galactic Alliance Guard (human male)
Leia Organa Solo, Jedi Knight, co-pilot, Millennium Falcon (human female)
Lon Shevu, captain, Galactic Alliance Guard (human male)
Luke Skywalker, Jedi Grand Master (human male)
Lumiya, Dark Jedi-Dark Lady of the Sith (human female)
Mara Jade Skywalker, Jedi Master (human female)
Mirta Gev, bounty hunter (human emale)
Taun We, scientist (Kaminoan female)
Thrackan Sal-Solo (human male)
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JME2 wrote:Boba Fett, Mandalore and semi-retired bounty hunter (human male)
You have got to be kidding me.
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Ar-Adunakhor wrote:
JME2 wrote:Boba Fett, Mandalore and semi-retired bounty hunter (human male)
You have got to be kidding me.
Nope and that's what's got a number of readers, worried. Karen Travis, the author of Bloodlines and two other Legacy books is somewhat notorious for being a bit of a so-called Mandalorian expert and wanker...
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JME2 wrote:
Ar-Adunakhor wrote:
JME2 wrote:Boba Fett, Mandalore and semi-retired bounty hunter (human male)
You have got to be kidding me.
Nope and that's what's got a number of readers, worried. Karen Travis, the author of Bloodlines and two other Legacy books is somewhat notorious for being a bit of a so-called Mandalorian expert and wanker...
I knew she was working on Bloodlines, but I had no idea she was going to be splooging all over Fett. It makes me wonder how many Sith armies he is going to be beating singlehandedly. God fucking damnit, the Fett fanboys already wanked him to high hell; Traviss should have just fucking left him out of it. Plus, he should be well the fuck into the damn geriatric years by now, even with SW medtech. Maybe she made him immortal, because Christ knows she has already made Mandalorians ultimate clone warriors of 100,000:1 kill ratio awesomeness. Ascension to godhood just the next step, I guess.

Seeing Fett listed there was like a slap out of nowhere.
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Ar-Adunakhor wrote:Seeing Fett listed there was like a slap out of nowhere.
You mean you haven't seen the cover of Bloodlines? Images of it have been around for some time. Link.
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JME2 wrote: Luke Skywalker, Jedi Grand Master (human male)
Is Luke being classified as a Grand Master relatively new? Did he do anything to earn said title? Is there any actual significance to the title of Grand Master, like does it signify he's the most powerful Jedi around, or is it just a way of saying he's the founder of the NJO and the EU writers coming up with a more grandiose title for him just because he's Luke Skywalker.
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Mlenk wrote:Is Luke being classified as a Grand Master relatively new? Did he do anything to earn said title? Is there any actual significance to the title of Grand Master, like does it signify he's the most powerful Jedi around, or is it just a way of saying he's the founder of the NJO and the EU writers coming up with a more grandiose title for him just because he's Luke Skywalker.
Of course it's because he's the founder of the New Jedi Order. He's also the most powerful and knowledgeable member. Yoda was the Grand Master of the old.

EDIT--Also, I believe the first reference to him as such was from The Swarm War trilogy, but I may be mistaken.
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DesertFly wrote: EDIT--Also, I believe the first reference to him as such was from The Swarm War trilogy, but I may be mistaken.
Ah well that's it then. I haven't gotten around yet to reading the Swarm War trilogy.
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TAUN WE?!?!?!?!?

Fuck, I guess I should have expected it. It will probably be just another unecessary connection between the PT and post NJO EU, just to try and get readers interested. Such bullshit, but then again i'm not going to buy this book anyway because Karen Traviss wrote it.
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Heh, the more I see of PT stuff in the NJO era, the more it reminds me of the TNG references in ENT.
Though they've been referencing the PT in the OT era as well, so there's a slight difference. :P
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Its times like this I think I'm glad I stopped reading at the end of the NJO. I havn't even read the Clone Wars books.
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I tried to quit the EU but i couldn't help it. I bought Betrayal yesterday. So far it's not blowing my skirt up. Seems to me to be a mix up of the Corellian Trilogy with the Jacen aspects reminding me of Anakin Skywalkers fall. Still on the up side it's not as shit as Dark Nest.
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Boba as Mandalore doesn't even make sense, neither Boba nor Jango were true Mandalorians. They just had the training and armor.
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Marko Dash wrote:Boba as Mandalore doesn't even make sense, neither Boba nor Jango were true Mandalorians. They just had the training and armor.
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AotC's novel describes Jango as a mandalorian, in fact one of the last ones left. IIRC, something about him being a young mandalorian when the Jedi destroyed the order/group/tribe whatever.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

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Boba as Mandalore doesn't even make sense, neither Boba nor Jango were true Mandalorians. They just had the training and armor.
Since "true" Mandalorians were a species, and most Mandalorians in recent centuries have been volunteers from different species, this is irrelevant.
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