The "Trusted" Betrayer: A new cliche?
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The "Trusted" Betrayer: A new cliche?
It seems to me that this has become a new cliche of many works of fiction, unless it's been around longer then I've realized it: you have the trusted companion of the hero, whether it's a mentor, sidekick, friend, what-have-you, that about 3/4 of the way through reveals himself as a backstabber or the main antagonist themselves.
Now I remember the first time I came across this idea, it really 'blew my mind' and I thought it was a great twist. The next couple of times, it still surprised the hell out of me and made the story interesting. By the twentifth time I was starting to wonder, can you really trust anyone anymore?
Does anyone else think this way, is it a new cliche or have I just been naive to how long treachery has been apart of fiction?
Now I remember the first time I came across this idea, it really 'blew my mind' and I thought it was a great twist. The next couple of times, it still surprised the hell out of me and made the story interesting. By the twentifth time I was starting to wonder, can you really trust anyone anymore?
Does anyone else think this way, is it a new cliche or have I just been naive to how long treachery has been apart of fiction?
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Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand.' He faltered and leaned heavily on his staff. 'What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.'
- J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand.' He faltered and leaned heavily on his staff. 'What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.'
- J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Plenty of historical examples, like Benedict Arnold. The archetype goes at least as far back as Judas Iscariot.
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Treachery is almost universally common in all genres of story. I wouldn't say it's exactly a cliched idea, either, because it really does happen in real life. I remember my uncle told me about his best friend from high school and most of his adult life for twenty years, who basically stole $2,000 from their combined business and disappeared.
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It's so cliche it's almost novel to do it! What a shock, he actually used that tired plotline?!
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The trusted betrayer is old as plottwists. It's not really a new thing.
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Severus Snape was the first one that jumped to my mind.Kuja wrote:Name 'Lando Calrissian' should ring a few bells...and maybe 'Admiral Cartwright' will too.
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James Michener and Michael Crichton had huge careers writing the same book over and over.Pezzoni wrote:Dan Brown fellates this idea. Every single book he has written (as far as I remember) contains the same basic plot in different wrappings.
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