Eve Online

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-06-05 06:18pm

Yet another game without a MAC version... Right?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2006-06-05 06:58pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Yet another game without a MAC version... Right?

If you own a Mac, you should be used to disappointment on the gaming front by now.

Koolaidkirby · Post by **Koolaidkirby** » 2006-06-05 10:07pm

Atavarius wrote:I actually took part in many of these operations. The fleet fights and POS killing during the G invasion were some of the most fun I've had in game. The EC-P8R operation was insanely boring though.

My siege of EC-P8R was merely an example of exactly how organized and insane the game can get. (I was there as well, mostly just sitting around camping gates while the cap ships went around destroying all the shipyards) but the G counter invasion was so satisfying after their attempted invasion of AZN. During the whole northern campaign, it was constantly running through my mind "PAY-BACKS A BITCH AINT IT?"

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-05 10:49pm

I got my first 'blow shit up' mission, and now I want to know how you're supposed to make money being a combat character at low levels. Bandits and drones are one thing... PCs quite another.

Atavarius · Post by **Atavarius** » 2006-06-05 11:34pm

Koolaidkirby wrote:
Atavarius wrote:I actually took part in many of these operations. The fleet fights and POS killing during the G invasion were some of the most fun I've had in game. The EC-P8R operation was insanely boring though.
My siege of EC-P8R was merely an example of exactly how organized and insane the game can get. (I was there as well, mostly just sitting around camping gates while the cap ships went around destroying all the shipyards) but the G counter invasion was so satisfying after their attempted invasion of AZN. During the whole northern campaign, it was constantly running through my mind "PAY-BACKS A BITCH AINT IT?"

Aye, i only can play for short spurts and racked up over 200 kills throughout the North. Was always good when we killed a member of G/IRON. What ASCN corp are you in? Look me up sometime.

Shameless plug, ASCN is a great place for both new and old players. If you are interested PM me.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-06-06 03:34am

You guys any good advice for Caldari players? I currently like my Merlin, but any ideas are welcome...
At least if I'll get a stable WLAN connection in my flat here in Bonn...

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-06-06 04:35am

Stark wrote:I got my first 'blow shit up' mission, and now I want to know how you're supposed to make money being a combat character at low levels. Bandits and drones are one thing... PCs quite another.

Out of the top of my head:

If you want to continue doing missions, train social skills (skills that help increase standings) so you can quicly get a level 2 agent (= more pay)

You could join a corp who help you getting started or even provide you with free ships and mods

You could fit a warp scrambler/disruptor and go ransom lone haulers/miners for money in a low security system

Best advice is to simply ask your question in the "EVE New Citizens Q&A" on the eve-online forum. The community is very helpfull and they probably know a lot more tips than me

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-06-06 04:42am

Dahak wrote:You guys any good advice for Caldari players? I currently like my Merlin, but any ideas are welcome...
At least if I'll get a stable WLAN connection in my flat here in Bonn...

Train missiles and hybrid weapons (railguns) if you're planning for the shooty shooty. You need lesser skills to be effective with missiles so it never harms to train these first (both the Kestrel frigate or the Caracal cruiser offer excellent firepower for their price)

Osprey cruiser if you like to mine

Shield tanking skills in general (armor tanking is more for Gallente/Amarr)

Basic skills like engineering and electronics (basicly the skills that increase the cpu or powergrid of your ship, making modules easier to fit). Navigation skills are handy as well (afterburners/microwarpdrives are your friend)

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-06-06 05:08am

Hotfoot wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote:Yet another game without a MAC version... Right?
If you own a Mac, you should be used to disappointment on the gaming front by now.

..but they've got Marathon... TWO! And didn't Unreal Tournament 2004 get ported recently?

Seriously, hmm. How's Eve for you all? I played for all of an hour and didn't get the hang of it because it was all waypoints with little manual flying. I never got into combat either, since it was stats vs other stats...

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-06-06 05:23am

wautd wrote:
Dahak wrote:You guys any good advice for Caldari players? I currently like my Merlin, but any ideas are welcome...
At least if I'll get a stable WLAN connection in my flat here in Bonn...
Train missiles and hybrid weapons (railguns) if you're planning for the shooty shooty. You need lesser skills to be effective with missiles so it never harms to train these first (both the Kestrel frigate or the Caracal cruiser offer excellent firepower for their price)

Osprey cruiser if you like to mine

Shield tanking skills in general (armor tanking is more for Gallente/Amarr)

Basic skills like engineering and electronics (basicly the skills that increase the cpu or powergrid of your ship, making modules easier to fit). Navigation skills are handy as well (afterburners/microwarpdrives are your friend)

Yeah, I already got missiles. Pretty nice... I went for the Merlin, because I initially thought to use it as a miner, too. But soon found out otherwise. Now have a Bantam for it, and think about getting a Kestrel. But the low reload times and ammunition issues with a missile-only ship worry me a bit...

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-06 06:17am

Nephtys wrote:Seriously, hmm. How's Eve for you all? I played for all of an hour and didn't get the hang of it because it was all waypoints with little manual flying. I never got into combat either, since it was stats vs other stats...

This is a very odd thing to say about MMOs: aside from games like GW with quick-to-finish progress, they're ALL stats-vs-stats. At least EVE has three-dimensional tactics and a nicely flexible loadout system. I've always thought direct, traditional control in an MMO was a waste of traffic: EVE works fine with 95% of my connection full of torrents, and I still win combat because I've given orders like 'maintain 100kms' or 'orbit at 5km' so I don't stand like a wally and die.

Now that I've worked out that I can drop waypoints in warp, I can finally go anywhere.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2006-06-06 06:24am

My problem with EVE-Online is a burning, Stark-like, hatred of the GUI.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-06 07:13am

Yeah, it's fiddly and poor. At least it's largely hotlinked and context sensitive, though: it's much better than Xs interface.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-06-07 06:28am

Has this been posted here yet?

Eve RMR

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-06-07 02:10pm

wautd wrote:Has this been posted here yet?

Eve RMR

Ok... Having never played the game, knowing next to nothing about it and having no idea what almost any of that could mean... I'd like to say that was STILL insainly funny!!!

"We didn't lisssten!!!"

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-07 02:34pm

That was funny.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-06-20 02:46pm

Okay, I'm goofing around again. Salvage runs are a fun way to get money if you're lucky, but I have this absolutely hilarious story.

It's about me, in a tricked out Merlin Frigate, jumped by a jerk who just got their hands on a shiny, bigger, scarier destroyer.

I was AFK at the time, on autopilot. The prick caught me in a .4 system, and I rushed back to see what was going on. He was shooting at me with /eight Neutron Blasters/, and took down my shields in ONE SALVO. I freaked out. I hit the afterburners, and pulled 800 out of there. Then I realized something.

His neutron guns had an effective range of about 1km. I had 18km railguns.

I kited the jerk, and took him down HARD. I picked up the salvage afterwards, and sold it for about a million. Not bad for day two, huh?

McC · Post by **McC** » 2006-06-20 02:50pm

Destroyers suck.

A properly equipped frigate can ace a destroyer almost any day of the week.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-06-20 03:31pm

McC wrote:Destroyers suck. A properly equipped frigate can ace a destroyer almost any day of the week.

Hmm no. A properly fitted destroyer can pop a frigate (or even tech 2). I found that out the hard way when I tought I would have no trouble in taking out a destroyer in an interceptor.

My most recent combat story was when I was heading to the last gate to get out of 0.0 when suddenly a Manticore stealth bomber uncloaks. Luckely for me, I had a 200mm rolled tungsten armor plate fitted on my inty so I could survive his first 2-3 salvos untill I popped him myself. With 20% armor left, I moved to his can to scoop the loot when suddenly a fresh, hostile interceptor warps in. With low armor and power, I panick, scoop everything I could (mostly ammo, making my cargo already before I could get to his good stuff) but he ends up scrambling me anyway. Since I was too far from the gate, there was little choice but not to fight which suprisingly went well. I even got him to 80% hull untill he flew out of my range (fast bugger) and warped away.

I went back to the can, jettissoned his tech 2 ammo to take the good (well, better) stuff (cloaking device, tech 2 cruise launcher) when suddenly 4 bad guys warped in (cruisers, frigs). I could barely escape but without the loot.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2006-06-20 04:12pm

wautd wrote:Hmm no. A properly fitted destroyer can pop a frigate (or even tech 2). I found that out the hard way when I tought I would have no trouble in taking out a destroyer in an interceptor.

Someone skilled with appropriate skills for a destroyer, and fitted appropriately, vs. someone equally skilled with appropriate skills for virtually any other ship, fitted appropriately, will always lose. Destroyers have lots of gunslots, but insufficient CPU and defensive resilience to stand up to anything other than medium-level fittings. Sure, they've got disgusting firepower, but like battlecruisers, they reach too far and fail as a result.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2006-06-20 04:20pm

McC wrote:
wautd wrote:Hmm no. A properly fitted destroyer can pop a frigate (or even tech 2). I found that out the hard way when I tought I would have no trouble in taking out a destroyer in an interceptor.
Someone skilled with appropriate skills for a destroyer, and fitted appropriately, vs. someone equally skilled with appropriate skills for virtually any other ship, fitted appropriately, will always lose. Destroyers have lots of gunslots, but insufficient CPU and defensive resilience to stand up to anything other than medium-level fittings. Sure, they've got disgusting firepower, but like battlecruisers, they reach too far and fail as a result.

The point is that most frigate class ships will be eaten for breakfast against a good destroyer pilot. But I agree that the destroeyer will get eaten by anything bigger.

Interdictors are damn fine tough

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-06-20 06:15pm

I just got my destroyer. It's still using a lot of weaker small weapons, but that's good enough for me right now. My foes (that I can handle) are enemy frigates and dessies. I've got three shield extenders, and a shield booster to help combat...

hopefully there, I can stand up to any enemy frigate, and weak interceptors?

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-20 08:37pm

You won't even be able to HIT interceptors without a drive slower-downer thing. Sorry, it's early.

And T2 frigates will shit all over you. You can laugh through all lvl1 missions, though, and some lvl2 if you're good/lucky. Not Human Cargo, though. That's hard.

What is with my bad luck in this game? Every time I pass through or go to lowsec, people try to kill me (usually pretty ineptly). I get a cruiser, go to a DED4 in .4 space... and get utterly pwnzored by some 2year player in an assault ship with a scrambler. GRRRR. Meanwhile Flash drives his UNARMED BADGER through lowsec constantly, and sees red, flashing guys all the time. They never attack him. lol

Acidburns · Post by **Acidburns** » 2006-06-20 08:40pm

I just finished my trial, I'm on a full account now. I've just gotten my Caracal cruiser. 360k SP.

Current Loadout:
2 Malkuth Heavy Missle Launchers (Scourge)
3 Malkuth Assualt Launchers (Bloodclaw)
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Target Painter
Large Shield Extender
Medium Shield Booster
Passive Thermal Resist Thingy
Afterburner
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PDS
Damage Control 1

My name is Carth Ixos. So feel free to look me up, I'd like some company. I've just got my first L2 agent, so I'm doing missions for my agents and running the occaisional deadspace rank 3. I usually hang about Sinq Laison at the gallente/caldari border.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-06-20 08:48pm

Hey Sinq Laison isn't far from me! I've stepped back a bit since the loss of my cruiser, though; I've just started, and be assed if I'm going to spend another six million outfitting another Vexor just so some random nutter can blow it up. I need another day and fifteen million to get a Brutix.... so I guess I'll be stucky trading like Flash.