Holy Shit! (HUGE SPOILERS FOR SG-1 SEASON TEN)

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2006-06-05 11:36pm

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/06/f ... hesh.shtml

I have mixed feelings about this.

If they do this well, it could come out great, but there are so many ways they could screw this up.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-06-06 12:09am

HOLY FUCK!!!

BloodAngel · Post by **BloodAngel** » 2006-06-06 12:21am

That's quite the twist...

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2006-06-06 12:22am

Wow... That makes everyone in the SGC turning into zombies(except Mitchell and Walter) in episode 200 pale by comparison.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2006-06-06 12:41am

Guess who is going to ascend again...

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2006-06-06 12:49am

I am completely unsure of how I feel about this... . Mostly worrisome.

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2006-06-06 01:02am

This better be more than one episode.

I don't want Daniel to say "Oh noes, I wuzz wrong about teh Ori, i are sorry." at the end of the episode, and then go back to the SGC like nothing was wrong. That would be such a copout.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2006-06-06 01:08am

My theory is that it's a fake; Daniel's preaching alright, but he's preaching as Desala did, as he learned to Ascend, as opposed to the Orii's nonsense. He masquerades as a Prior to keep off their radar as he helps people get beyond their clutches.

Or so I'm guessing.

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2006-06-06 01:11am

You know, now that I think about it, SirNitram's guess is the more likely cop-out.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2006-06-06 01:14am

skyman8081 wrote:You know, now that I think about it, SirNitram's guess is the more likely cop-out.

To be honest, it strikes me as a perfectly valid move. Because it's clever, and potentially adds folks who can actually fight the Orii.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-06-06 01:33am

What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.

Grasscutter · Post by **Grasscutter** » 2006-06-06 01:42am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.

The question then is WHY would he join the Ori, since it goes against everything established about his character. Only possible answer is brainwashing, which has been done about a million times before.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-06-06 01:43am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.

Barring sudden and radical memory loss, though, there's no way Daniel would accept Origin willingly.

Unless he had to...

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2006-06-06 01:46am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Unless he had to...

They couldn't have threatened to kill him, he's been killed off so many times, it would have any weight behind it, like in "Fire and Water" or "Meridian."

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-06-06 06:26am

Holy crap. It seems odd that Daniel would do this.
Can someone be Prior-ized against their will? I know Gerak wasn't exactly told he was to be a Prior when he was taken to Celestus but he was still working for the Ori.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2006-06-06 06:27am

I predict this will suck majorly.
Also does this mean Micheal Shanks ins't one of the main cast anymore?

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2006-06-06 06:29am

Obviously a transporter accident separated him into good and evil halves, and the good half is locked away some where.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-06-06 06:31am

Crazedwraith wrote:I predict this will suck majorly.
Also does this mean Micheal Shanks ins't one of the main cast anymore?

Not unless the SG-1 producers want to be lynched.
I suppose he could be an antagonist and still be in the main cast, it's been done in Farscape.
Though I fear this is just going to be a 2 parter with Daniel back to normal at the end.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-06-06 07:23am

I wonder if this is actually a plot by the ancients... Daniel is one of the only humans to have had actual contact with them and they are finally deciding to help us out. albeit in a round-about way. They have helped us out before remember threads? They stopped the clock on the nuke countdown just long enough for their plan to work out. Sending daniel undercover to subvert the orii seems a pretty smart plan to me.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-06-06 02:27pm

Zac Naloen wrote:I wonder if this is actually a plot by the ancients... Daniel is one of the only humans to have had actual contact with them and they are finally deciding to help us out. albeit in a round-about way. They have helped us out before remember threads? They stopped the clock on the nuke countdown just long enough for their plan to work out. Sending daniel undercover to subvert the orii seems a pretty smart plan to me.

You mean that the Milky-Way Ancients are giving Daniel prior-esque powers? THAT would be awesome.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-06-06 02:48pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Zac Naloen wrote:I wonder if this is actually a plot by the ancients... Daniel is one of the only humans to have had actual contact with them and they are finally deciding to help us out. albeit in a round-about way. They have helped us out before remember threads? They stopped the clock on the nuke countdown just long enough for their plan to work out. Sending daniel undercover to subvert the orii seems a pretty smart plan to me.
You mean that the Milky-Way Ancients are giving Daniel prior-esque powers? THAT would be awesome.

Would be interesting, but then why is Daniel preaching Origin?
Is he working undercover? Would the Ori be that stupid?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-06-06 03:28pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.
Barring sudden and radical memory loss, though, there's no way Daniel would accept Origin willingly.

Unless he had to...

Rumor has it that it will be revealed that the Ori are good and the ascended are bad. Its been assumed that this is propaganda on the part of the Orii. What if its not? What if Daniel finds out that the Orii are the good guys?

If you fond out that you've been fighting against some people who where at war with genocidal maniacs, wouldn't you join them?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-06-06 03:33pm

Ender wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.
Barring sudden and radical memory loss, though, there's no way Daniel would accept Origin willingly.

Unless he had to...
Rumor has it that it will be revealed that the Ori are good and the ascended are bad. Its been assumed that this is propaganda on the part of the Orii. What if its not? What if Daniel finds out that the Orii are the good guys?

If you fond out that you've been fighting against some people who where at war with genocidal maniacs, wouldn't you join them?

This claim was made during season 9 by a prior already IIRC

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-06-06 03:34pm

Ender wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:What would be kind of cool is if they just played it straight.

Daniel is just evil now, he works for the Ori, but he's not a complete asshole so he tries to be good about it. No cop outs, no twists, just play it through to the logical conclusion. Danny boy joins the Ori, but is less volitile than most Priors.
Barring sudden and radical memory loss, though, there's no way Daniel would accept Origin willingly.

Unless he had to...
Rumor has it that it will be revealed that the Ori are good and the ascended are bad. Its been assumed that this is propaganda on the part of the Orii. What if its not? What if Daniel finds out that the Orii are the good guys?

That would be pretty fucking weak, considering how many horrible, genocidal things we've seen the Orii do and how the Ancients DON'T do that.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-06-06 03:34pm

Zac Naloen wrote:This claim was made during season 9 by a prior already IIRC

The rumour is that it'll be presented a bit more credibly though.