HA AHHAHAH Poindexter gets all his private info published!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-15 07:37pm

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56860,00.html

Keeping Track of John Poindexter

The head of the government's Total Information Awareness project, which aims to root out potential terrorists by aggregating credit-card, travel, medical, school and other records of everyone in the United States, has himself become a target of personal data profiling.

Online pranksters, taking their lead from a San Francisco journalist, are publishing John Poindexter's home phone number, photos of his house and other personal information to protest the TIA program.

Matt Smith, a columnist for SF Weekly, printed the material -- which he says is all publicly available -- in a recent column: "Optimistically, I dialed John and Linda Poindexter's number -- (301) 424-6613 -- at their home at 10 Barrington Fare in Rockville, Md., hoping the good admiral and excused criminal might be able to offer some insight," Smith wrote.

"Why, for example, is their $269,700 Rockville, Md., house covered with artificial siding, according to Maryland tax records? Shouldn't a Reagan conspirator be able to afford repainting every seven years? Is the Donald Douglas Poindexter listed in Maryland sex-offender records any relation to the good admiral? What do Tom Maxwell, at 8 Barrington Fare, and James Galvin, at 12 Barrington Fare, think of their spooky neighbor?"

Smith said he wrote the column to demonstrate the sense of violation he felt over his personal records being profiled by secretive government agencies.

"I needed to call Poindexter anyway, and it seemed like a worthy concept that if he's going to be compiling data that most certainly will leak around to other departments and get used, one way to get readers to think about it was to turn that around," Smith said.

What Smith didn't realize was that Poindexter's phone number and other information would end up on more than 100 Web pages a week later as others took up the cause.

Phone-phreaking hackers supplied details on the Verizon switch serving the admiral's home. The popular Cryptome privacy-issues website posted satellite photos of the house.

Poindexter could not be reached for comment for this story, and calls to his home phone now reach a recording: "The party you are calling is not available at this time."

Since the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency began awarding contracts for the Total Information Awareness project in August, the effort has been criticized by both civil rights advocates and data-mining experts.

The dispute over TIA seems to fall not along straight political party lines, but between advocates and opponents of the government's right to monitor its own citizens. Former President Clinton expressed support for the project in a recent public appearance, while conservative New York Times columnist William Safire recently wrote a pointed editorial criticizing the idea.

One Bush voter, speaking on condition of anonymity, said of the pranks on Poindexter: "If they're making him as uncomfortable as we are, good."

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-15 07:42pm

That comment from the Bush voter is hypocritical, after all, this is one of Bush's things, so he should be happy that this is coming into effect.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2002-12-15 07:46pm

Ted wrote:That comment from the Bush voter is hypocritical, after all, this is one of Bush's things, so he should be happy that this is coming into effect.

Voters do not have to support all of their candidate's decisions.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-12-15 07:46pm

Ted wrote:That comment from the Bush voter is hypocritical, after all, this is one of Bush's things, so he should be happy that this is coming into effect.

Actually, no. Just because he voted for Bush doesn't mean that he has to agree with all of Bush's policies.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-12-15 07:53pm

aerius wrote:Actually, no. Just because he voted for Bush doesn't mean that he has to agree with all of Bush's policies.

OTH, anyone who votes Republicans into office should damn well realize that they're voting in support of the Jihad Against Civil Rights. Anyone who is uncomfortable with this simply shouldn't vote Republican in the first place.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-15 07:53pm

Enlightenment wrote: OTH, anyone who votes Republicans into office should damn well realize that they're voting in support of the Jihad Against Civil Rights. Anyone who is uncomfortable with this simply shouldn't vote Republican in the first place.

And like the Democrats are any fucking better?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2002-12-15 09:36pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Enlightenment wrote: OTH, anyone who votes Republicans into office should damn well realize that they're voting in support of the Jihad Against Civil Rights. Anyone who is uncomfortable with this simply shouldn't vote Republican in the first place.
And like the Democrats are any fucking better?

Thank you.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-15 10:26pm

Enlightenment wrote:
aerius wrote:Actually, no. Just because he voted for Bush doesn't mean that he has to agree with all of Bush's policies.
OTH, anyone who votes Republicans into office should damn well realize that they're voting in support of the Jihad Against Civil Rights. Anyone who is uncomfortable with this simply shouldn't vote Republican in the first place.

The only difference is why they take your rights away. Republicans to to get the "bad men" and with Democrats it's to "save you from yourself". Sometimes I wonder how much longer America will last.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-12-15 10:29pm

MKSheppard wrote:And like the Democrats are any fucking better?

There's a name for that fallacy but I can't be bothered to look it up at the moment. Suffice to say, however, that your 'rebuttal' is replete with feces as the faults of the (un)Democratic party are irrelevant to a discussion on the faults of the Republican party.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-12-16 12:28am

Please make more coherent sense, Enlightenment, rather than ranting
Michael Moore style about how the Republican party is destroying our civil
rights.

If I recall correctly, your beloved Democrats, led by Bill Clinton and Albert
Gore, wanted to install spyware in all of our computers, called the Clipper
Chip (TM).

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-12-16 01:14am

Getting beyond all the Dem and Repub bashing, I'd like to say that the guy got what he deserved. I hope the same happens to all the public officials who support this invasion of our privacy.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-16 02:53am

That moron got exactly what he deserved. This is right up there with that spammer asshole getting the same treatment that he dishes out to hundreds of thousands of people daily.

That being said, all politicians are the scum of the earth and should be fired into the sun.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-16 04:13pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:Getting beyond all the Dem and Repub bashing, I'd like to say that the guy got what he deserved. I hope the same happens to all the public officials who support this invasion of our privacy.

Yeah! Perhaps, we can post John Ashcroft's prono collection online for all to see! He has some, he just won't admit it.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2002-12-16 04:49pm

His last name is Poindexter. Don't you think he's suffered enough?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-16 05:22pm

The irony is thick enough to spread like warm butter on the whole wheat bread of justice.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-16 06:31pm

Both paries are wrong. They are both too....extreme

Me I favor a mixed approach

civil rights-yes(everyone should be treated equaly by the govt)

Personal liberties over national security-yes(Dont rip up the fucking constitution and throw us into fascism)

Socialized medical care-yes(everyone need health insurance)

I quess I am a bit more liberal than most other independants, but social liberal, fical conservative...Oh yes