Spider-Man 3 Will Have FOUR Villains!

[The Dark]

A lot of the same plot elements were certainly recycled; the mentor who becomes a villain, the withdrawal into oneself for personal gain, the subsequent discovery of his true identity as a protector of others. But they amped up the angst level, which is why it was more boring than the original, and they also amped up the horrible pseudoscience, which is why it was dumber than the original.

The psuedoscience is a strong element in Silver Age and later comics, unfortunately. While Golden Age comics were largely written by sci-fi authors who tried to base powers at least somewhat on what science at the time considered possible, the Silver Age made the science subordinate to the whims of the story.

Heck, out of all Spider-Man's powers, only his jumping and the "spider-sense"," and possibly sticking to surfaces, would be based off actual spiders. Incredible strength and agility just aren't part of a spider's package. Hulk and Fantastic Four are just as bad. Cosmic rays and gamma radiation will just kill you by destroying your cells. Golden Age Superman was slightly impossible (his powers were due to lower gravity on Earth and a superhuman physiology), while Silver Age Superman is laughable (there's not that much difference in the radiation spectrum between a red star and a yellow star). Pretty much all modern comics are pseudoscience at best.

[Molyneux]

A lot of the same plot elements were certainly recycled; the mentor who becomes a villain, the withdrawal into oneself for personal gain, the subsequent discovery of his true identity as a protector of others. But they amped up the angst level, which is why it was more boring than the original, and they also amped up the horrible pseudoscience, which is why it was dumber than the original.

The psuedoscience is a strong element in Silver Age and later comics, unfortunately. While Golden Age comics were largely written by sci-fi authors who tried to base powers at least somewhat on what science at the time considered possible, the Silver Age made the science subordinate to the whims of the story.

Heck, out of all Spider-Man's powers, only his jumping and the "spider-sense"," and possibly sticking to surfaces, would be based off actual spiders. Incredible strength and agility just aren't part of a spider's package. Hulk and Fantastic Four are just as bad. Cosmic rays and gamma radiation will just kill you by destroying your cells. Golden Age Superman was slightly impossible (his powers were due to lower gravity on Earth and a superhuman physiology), while Silver Age Superman is laughable (there's not that much difference in the radiation spectrum between a red star and a yellow star). Pretty much all modern comics are pseudoscience at best.

Agreed.

However, for the best possible form of nuclear fusion to be creating an actual MINIATURE STAR which had to be physically poked and prodded into shape? That's just plain brains-leaking-out-ears cringeworthy.

[Darth Wong]

Not to mention the thing sustaining itself. I understand that comics typically employ horrible pseudoscience, but part of the job of a movie adaptation is to make things seem more plausible and less ridiculous. To put it simply, the movie medium is less tolerant of idiocy than comic books. And in this case, there was certainly no need to create this fusion bullshit when they could have simply had the arms being designed to handle any type of dangerous material.

[Stofsk]

In the original comic, Doc Ock's arms were supposed to be used to handle dangerous materials while he was behind a safety shield, for conducting experiments.

That strikes me as more reasonable than what the movie was peddling (although that's not saying much).

[Lost Soal]

However, for the best possible form of nuclear fusion to be creating an actual MINIATURE STAR which had to be physically poked and prodded into shape? That's just plain brains-leaking-out-ears cringeworthy.

Ah yes, "The power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand."
"Could someone turn up the heat, this things cold."
He should have been burnt to a crisp.

[JonathanMS]

I really hope the 4th villain is Rhino. I always enjoyed the big, dumb thug type villains.

[squidman001]

I could go for Rhino. It could be just like in the Spider-man 2 game, where he's just a quick fight while your still learning the rope (or webs) of the game. It would also be enjoyable to see Rhino hanging upside-down by web in a street.

[His Divine Shadow]

I honestly don't see why people thought the Spiderman films were so great. I found the first one to be OK with some painfully bad elements and stupid plot devices, and the second one had an agonizingly boring middle section with a retarded main storyline. Certainly nothing to write home about. As recent comic-based movies go, I found X-Men, Hellboy, and Batman Begins to all be easily superior to either Spiderman movie.

It was the entire first half of the second that got to me. It pissed me off. It was like some internet live journal with all the angst and emo.

[Utsanomiko]

I managed to enjoy the film for the most part, though it's been a while since I've seen it. The 'miniature sun' really needed to go, though; I didn't hate it but it took me out of the movie. They might as well declared you have to be careful when setting up those floating magnetic gyroscope toys or else it will rapidly gain momentum if you let it go 'out of control' and then it'll be impossible to stop, eventually creating a black hole.

Not to mention takes a bit too much attention from the importance of Doctor Octopus' signature creation, which was the arms for handling dangerous stuff (honestly, osmething could have been expanded upon from there). And everyone's just suppposed to be impressed by the lightshow?

DR OCTAVIUS: "The power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand..."
(Everyone in the movie and out in the movie theater): "Yeah, fusion power, that's very holy shit Doctor you have mind-controlled robot arms!"

Kinda like when Pee-Wee Herman had that talking pig in that one movie, but everyone was too impressed by the fact he also grew a Hot Dog tree. Oh, those silly movies!