Are there any good Hutts?

Cthulhuvong · Post by **Cthulhuvong** » 2006-06-14 02:54pm

Yes its a strange question, but it came up in a nationsim I was playing (Star Wars Diplomacy). There was a rebellion on Tatooine and the Hutts were blamed. Someone stated that all Hutts were criminals and slavers and it obviously had to be them, and several members replied that not all Hutts were bad, but its hard to find any good Hutts.

Blotus the Hutt was a Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic at one point, and was honorable and good (for his 200+ year reign of the Republic) but thats about as good as I could get.

Anyone else know of any other Hutts which weren't evil gansters or slavers or Sith?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2006-06-14 02:59pm

There was one I think in the Tales of the Jedi series or something (that one with the Sith Empire and Naga Sadow and whatnot.. the really really old one..) But that's all I can remember.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-06-14 03:06pm

Well, there are a lot of Hutt businessmen... business-things that aren't really evil, simply pragmatic, like the bookie at the Taris Cantina in KOTOR, or several of the Hutts in the NJO.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2006-06-14 04:06pm

that's like saying all Italians are members of the mafia.

I'm sure there are many good Hutts. Sadly the majority of their leaders get there position through the Hutt Mafia. A corrupt government does not make corrupt people.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2006-06-14 05:25pm

Wasn't there a good Jedi Knight named Beldorian the Hutt? (who, by the way, I would love to have seen in an SW film, simply because I can't imagine what Lucas would make a CGI lightsabre duel between him, and say, Darth Tyrannus, would look like).

I'm suprised that Palpatine didn't order the Hutts exterminated...while not posing a direct threat to the New Order, their extensive underworld activities must have been annoying.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-06-14 05:44pm

Wasn't there a good Jedi Knight named Beldorian the Hutt? (who, by the way, I would love to have seen in an SW film, simply because I can't imagine what Lucas would make a CGI lightsabre duel between him, and say, Darth Tyrannus, would look like).

Beldorian went dark though, and eventually seized control of some backwards rim planet (Nam Chorios, I think).

I'm suprised that Palpatine didn't order the Hutts exterminated...while not posing a direct threat to the New Order, their extensive underworld activities must have been annoying.

Though many were involved in underground activities, the Hutts were still an essential part of the galactic economy, especially in the Outer Rim, and were also far more high profile than the alien species Palpatine quietly had exterminated or enslaved. Eliminating them would have been both very difficult (Hutt space is nearly the size of the Core oversector, and has influence well beyond its borders), and highly destabilizing, likely triggering massive underworld power struggles all across the disk.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2006-06-14 06:03pm

Saying that all Hutts are fat crimelords is comparable to saying that all humans are arrogant, elitist Imperials.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2006-06-14 11:36pm

Beldorian went dark though, and eventually seized control of some backwards rim planet (Nam Chorios, I think).

True, but it took him some time, and considering he was a Jedi Knight, the Jedi apparently thought he was good enough to be a full knight. That seems to at least indicate that there are good Hutts.

I think part of the problem is defining what a 'good hutt' is. Nearly all the Hutts we've seen, and their homeworld, have been tied into the Criminal economy as a kind of mafia for a long time.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2006-06-15 01:01am

Noble Ire wrote:Well, there are a lot of Hutt businessmen... business-things that aren't really evil, simply pragmatic, like the bookie at the Taris Cantina in KOTOR, or several of the Hutts in the NJO.

The two Hutts in KOTOR are kind of iffy; you could still argue that they were evil since one's willing to set up an illegal death match and the other's offering illegal bounties on people like the woman who had a bounty placed on her because she turned down a drunk man's advances and he got pissed at her later.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2006-06-15 05:03pm

Big Orange wrote:Saying that all Hutts are fat crimelords is comparable to saying that all humans are arrogant, elitist Imperials.

We're not?

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2006-06-15 07:57pm

Well I find it strange that all the Twi-lek women (with the exception of one hot Jedi) all seem to dancers, models, hookers, strippers and concubines.

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-06-15 08:31pm

In one of the NJO books, Balance Point I think, there was a Hutt who worked at the Solo's refugee camp. As Hutts go I think he would be a "good" one.

Duckie · Post by **Duckie** » 2006-06-15 09:06pm

Big Orange wrote:Well I find it strange that all the Twi-lek women (with the exception of one hot Jedi) all seem to dancers, models, hookers, strippers and concubines.

The Jedi dresses very light too anyhow so she apparantly keeps the Twi'Lek instincts

Apparantly... maybe... it's a survival trait among humans since they really have nothing special about them except Spice on their homeworld and a secret sign language. Hotness = Usefulness. Or something. I mean, after all, didn't Saxton posit that Twi'Lek actually over time evolved to look more humanlike? I guess that a sort of 'sexual selection' except geared towards Human tastes- after all, if they adapted their entire bodies to fit humanity, I guess it'd make sense for them to fit into a niche or something. Am I clear about what I mean?

EDIT- Actually it's probably something more obvious like all the non-hot Twi'Leks remain on their poor shithole planet while the hot ones end up getting picked up as slaves or strippers or the like. I mean, checking Saxton's page, there actually is one picture of a non-beautiful Twi'Lek and it's set on their homeworld as opposed to all the others who are off-planet.

Shadowtraveler · Post by **Shadowtraveler** » 2006-06-15 09:10pm

A-Wing_Slash wrote:In one of the NJO books, Balance Point I think, there was a Hutt who worked at the Solo's refugee camp. As Hutts go I think he would be a "good" one.

He betrayed everyone, though.

Still, he wasn't too bad for a Hutt. He even rammed into a few Vong, I think.

Ryoga · Post by **Ryoga** » 2006-06-15 09:42pm

Wasn't there also a comic where Boba Fett ended up helping some obscure junior Hutt elope with his wife (another Hutt), so they could live a normal and crime-free life?

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-06-15 10:28pm

Shadowtraveler wrote:He betrayed everyone, though.

I Guess I should have read that book a little more closely. Oops.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-06-16 04:02pm

It seems the majority of Hutts who leave Nal Hutta are businessmen and criminals; those who actually reside on the planet, we don't see much of. What Hutts we do see are the immigrants-- why do you think they left the planet?

Lazarus · Post by **Lazarus** » 2006-06-16 04:19pm

He betrayed everyone, though.

Still, he wasn't too bad for a Hutt. He even rammed into a few Vong, I think.

That was Randa Besadii Diorii, if I remember and spell that correctly. He was actually something of a good hut, he at first simply allied with the Vong in the hope that the Hutts could come off better from it whoever won, but in the end he turned on them and ended up on Duro. He was eventually killed by a Vong leader during the attack on Duro whilst attempting to defend Leia IIRC.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-06-16 07:57pm

Wait, there was a Hutt Jedi in the NJO?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-06-16 08:11pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Wait, there was a Hutt Jedi in the NJO?

No, he/she/it appeared in an earlier book, Planet of Twilight. The NJO Hutt in question was IIRC not a Force user.

Kettch · Post by **Kettch** » 2006-06-16 09:03pm

Big Orange wrote:Well I find it strange that all the Twi-lek women (with the exception of one hot Jedi) all seem to dancers, models, hookers, strippers and concubines.

And Lucas let one of his daughters play one?

(In a bar no less!)