The Universe Is Fabricated?

[Darth Wong]

Wouldn't the existence of such things like permanent virtual particles and Hawking radiation suggest that the universe is not a closed system?

No, because the particle-pair does not violate energy conservation, and the positive-energy particle is only persistent when the negative-energy particle has cancelled out some pre-existing real mass.

[Surlethe]

Wouldn't the existence of such things like permanent virtual particles and Hawking radiation suggest that the universe is not a closed system?

No. From what I understand, virtual particles are matter-antimatter pairs which are precisely opposite each other in every way. Thus, the total matter, energy, and angular momentum of the universe remains constant: you're essentially adding both one and negative one at the same time. They cancel each other out. Ergo, there's no need to introduce another universe (whatever that means) to justify their existence.

And what's the fifth fundamental force?

Beats me. I wonder what Crossroads Inc. has in mind.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Bah, that wa an error on my part, I meant to say 5 STRING THEORIES, there had been four big theories of String for quite a while, but part of M-theory was connecting a smaller fith theory.

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And now I will exit this thread